Ashamed to be british

[beachcitygirl]

Despite the bombing of a maternity hospital by Putin.
Today we find out exactly what Ukrainians need to do to gain asylum in the UK.

1. Create an online account - on the home office website & fill in a lengthy and detailed application form.
2. Upload proof that their qualifying family member has permanent residence status in the UK - they suggest a copy of the home office vignette embedded in the passport
3. Upload proof of residence in the UKraine for a full year

4.Provide and upload proof of familial relationship with the family member. Birth certificates & marriage certificates of all concerned. 5.Make sure all documents are translated into English before uploading 6.Book and attend an IN-PERON appointment at a home office visa application centre in Poland, Hungary, Romania or France. So that officials can take biometrics and copies of all documents already uploaded. The booking system for appointment frequently crashes & the next available appointment as of today is in two weeks time - at any of the venues

1. Get a tuberculosis vaccination & certificate - have it translated & upload

8.wait at SAME address while home office workers in the UK assess. Be available for phone or zoom interview.

In a fucking war zone. I despair. I truly despair & despise this government with all my heart. Patel is a sociopath & Johnson an idiot.

I'm ashamed 😓

My nephews wife is white and a US citizen.
My nephew made the decision to move to the US because he knew it would take years to get his wife into the UK.
It’s not always about colour.
Sometimes it’s as simple as the arrogant and archaic immigration system.

Why don't you go and join the other chest beating I'm so ashamed thread op?
There is a crazy megalomaniac in Russia who is causing this
Stop making it all about you 🙄

@MiniCooper15 Suddenly? Bigotry is ugly. Oh and educate yourself not only white people are british. Vile. Reporting your post.

Not sure why you're surprised, this is the country that voted for Brexit...

@ringoutthebells

Not sure why you're surprised, this is the country that voted for Brexit...

Exactly. And god I despise that xenophobic racist selfish mindset.

@MiniCooper15

It's standard for refuges with brown or black skin. Haven't heard much complaints about this previously.

Maybe you weren't listening then.

@cornflakedreams well said

@beachcitygirl

Despite the bombing of a maternity hospital by Putin. Today we find out exactly what Ukrainians need to do to gain asylum in the UK.

1. Create an online account - on the home office website & fill in a lengthy and detailed application form.
2. Upload proof that their qualifying family member has permanent residence status in the UK - they suggest a copy of the home office vignette embedded in the passport
3. Upload proof of residence in the UKraine for a full year

4.Provide and upload proof of familial relationship with the family member. Birth certificates & marriage certificates of all concerned. 5.Make sure all documents are translated into English before uploading 6.Book and attend an IN-PERON appointment at a home office visa application centre in Poland, Hungary, Romania or France. So that officials can take biometrics and copies of all documents already uploaded. The booking system for appointment frequently crashes & the next available appointment as of today is in two weeks time - at any of the venues

1. Get a tuberculosis vaccination & certificate - have it translated & upload

8.wait at SAME address while home office workers in the UK assess. Be available for phone or zoom interview.

In a fucking war zone. I despair. I truly despair & despise this government with all my heart. Patel is a sociopath & Johnson an idiot.

I'm ashamed 😓

What are you personally doing then ?

This is just another I hate the government ,Brexit thread ,but I will unashamedly use this awful situation in the Ukraine to make a point🙄

In the UK we have room. Let in desperate people fleeing war & bombs

And those that aren't fleeing? Those that don't look Ukrainian?

We left British Passport holders in Afghanistan, children of British Nationals, who cared then?

@x2boys

Why don't you go and join the other chest beating I'm so ashamed thread op? There is a crazy megalomaniac in Russia who is causing this Stop making it all about you 🙄

We are responsible for turning away refugees during an emergency.

That is a choice and it is entirely our responsibility. Nobody else's.

What kind of fucked up logic is it to say that because we fucked up in the past we can't or shouldn't expect better now?

Raise your standards.

WTAF @MiniCooper15? You do know that you don't have to be white to be British? Or maybe you believe that you do.

@cornflakedreams

What kind of fucked up logic is it to say that because we fucked up in the past we can't or shouldn't expect better now?

Raise your standards.

So allow in anyone without any papers or any proof the the UK?

Whose we the royal we ?,people on here will use anything to make this situation all about them
That's pretty vile .

No I'm not ashamed to be British. There's always a need to do better from all of us.

@ThisIsGroundControl

In the UK we have room. Let in desperate people fleeing war & bombs

And those that aren't fleeing? Those that don't look Ukrainian?

We left British Passport holders in Afghanistan, children of British Nationals, who cared then?

I cared. Many many people do. This is YET another example of the hideous treatment of refugees in the UK - the latest. Yet another reason to feel shame & despair.

I (am sure most decent people) don't think it's the only situation to feel shame & despair at the treatment of others.

Especially given that a lot of situations of war & famine & hunger around the world were caused by colonial Britian.
Not only is it the right thing to do, to help refugees but it's our moral duty to do so imho

@TooBigForMyBoots

WTAF *@MiniCooper15*? You do know that you don't have to be white to be British? Or maybe you believe that you do.

How do you know Mini is white? Or is that your prejudice showing through?

@TooBigForMyBoots

WTAF *@MiniCooper15*? You do know that you don't have to be white to be British? Or maybe you believe that you do.

@TooBigForMyBoots thank you this type of causal racism is jaw-dropping & exhausting to deal with.

I cared. Many many people do I know, so many do.

But seriously what is the answer, let anyone that wants to come to the UK in without any papers?

@TooBigForMyBoots thank you thanks this type of causal racism is jaw-dropping & exhausting to deal with.

I think you assuming the poster is white is more casual racism. Have I missed a post, I can't see what she has said that is so wrong.

@ThisIsGroundControl, I responded to a racist comment made by @MiniCooper15. It has now been deleted and quite rightly. Did you even read it?

Putin is a cunt and he looks like this .

@ThisIsGroundControl

I cared. Many many people do I know, so many do.

But seriously what is the answer, let anyone that wants to come to the UK in without any papers?

All the spare rooms of the caring ,sharing mumsnetter ,s I guess Of course they only want women and children and I'm guessing nice well educated women ,so they can show off how caring they are .

@ThisIsGroundControl
Mini was racist towards myself & Mumsnet hq have deleted. I'm not white.

beachcitygirl - Where would the refugees go? It's ok saying we have room, but let's say we let in 100,000 tomorrow. Where would they be housed? I'm not saying we shouldn't accept Ukrainians, of course we should, but it's not that simple. It takes planning.