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AIBU?

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To not want to go on holiday with friend due to her eating disorder?

225 replies

Backujij · 06/03/2022 17:16

Or at least what I think is an eating disorder.

I go on holiday with a friend every so often, and she has asked me to join her on a city break later this month. I love her and usually enjoy her company, but her attitude to food has got to the point where I don’t want to go.

If I leave anything on my plate there is a huge fuss made about wasting food. She will have my leftover food boxed up and carry it around for the rest of the evening. Nothing wrong with that if it was substantial, but it’s even if it’s a few carrots or a couple of spoonfuls of soup, and she makes such a big thing of it, always with questions like ‘how much do you waste at home? You should keep anything you don’t finish at home and have it for your next meal until it’s gone’. On one occasion, she took back to our hotel a bit of pie I hadn’t finished, and had the filling for dinner one evening and the pastry the next, and refused to order any dinner while I ate because she’d had the leftovers.

She also decided exactly what restaurants we’re eating in before we arrive on holiday, and there is no leeway. She will quiz the waiters about the food and their suggestions for a lengthy time to find out if it’s local food etc before she orders, and it’s embarrassing. She has woken me up in the morning to show me the menu of where we’re eating that night. She makes a huge fuss of having to have exactly what she wants to eat at exactly where she wants to eat, and never ever consults me. If I offer up alternatives she’ll say (huffily) ‘well we can go there but no, I won’t be eating there. I want something healthier/more local/less expensive/not as touristy’ etc.

Sometimes she’ll come to restaurants she hasn’t chosen, refuse to eat, then ask if she can have people’s leftovers when they’ve finished.

She got so thin at one point that she was hospitalised with exhaustion and told to lay off exercise for a while. I have never asked her about whether she thinks she has an eating disorder, although she did say on our last holiday that she did get too thin at one point.

She knows she’s controlling about food and has asked if it bothers me. I have said it does, but she never changes.

I know that she’s probably ill, but WIBU to refuse to go on holiday with her any more? It’s a shame because otherwise I adore her company and have known her many years, and we live on opposite sides of the country so we really only get to see each other when we go away.

AIBU to stop holidaying with her because of this when it is likely she can’t help it? Should I go and try and be supportive?

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Babyvenusplant · 06/03/2022 21:42

Her obsession with taking the left over food sounds quite OCD, which often comes hand in hand with eating disorders

I had some really weird ocd traits with food when I was anorexic, anyone trying to stop me would have just put me into a massive panic

Frazzled2207 · 06/03/2022 21:46

I absolutely could no it holiday with her unless we could eat entirely separately which is a bit miserable.

I’d want to very gently suggest she gets help. You mention she has a dh. What does he have to say about the matter?

Frazzled2207 · 06/03/2022 21:46

Could Not

OnTheBoardwalk · 06/03/2022 21:48

A friend of mine had a bad eating disorder and in the later days of her illness was hiding weights in her at the weigh in. Thankfully she is on the road to recovery now

Before it got to a head I had to stop meeting up with her for food, something to eat was always her suggestion, due to her comments

I have some major food intolerances that make me very ill for a short while. She would absolutely try and convince me I should stop eating pretty much all food to stop the risk of me being ill

We did and still do other things now that don’t include food, appreciate this would be difficult on holiday together. Either don’t go as you will start getting really annoyed with her or as PP said eat separately

Backujij · 06/03/2022 21:49

@Frazzled2207

I absolutely could no it holiday with her unless we could eat entirely separately which is a bit miserable.

I’d want to very gently suggest she gets help. You mention she has a dh. What does he have to say about the matter?

I don’t know. We don’t live near each other, and I’ve only ever met her DH when she has also been there. I don’t know whether he has concerns, but given she collapsed with exhaustion I can’t imagine he doesn’t. I only ever get to really talk to her when we’re on holiday too.
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skybluee · 06/03/2022 21:53

I'd speak to her about it directly and see if between you you can come up with some ideas to make the holiday enjoyable. It may be that there isn't a solution but she may be able to think of something or you may be able to. I wouldn't completely ignore it. She's your friend and these things thrive on secrecy. Good luck. I hope you get to go on your holiday and enjoy it. It may not be possible but I hope it is for you.

TheOccupier · 06/03/2022 21:54

If I have whatever left on my plate and she begins her judgement on leaving food and how wrong it is because people are starving, I do shut her down, usually by telling her it makes no difference to starving people whether my leftovers go into the bin or my stomach. But when she says ‘I’m going to take them home then. I can’t stand leftover food’, if I said ‘no’, she’d ask why, and what do I say?

I'd just say "because it's mine, I've paid for it, and I don't want you to". And if she won't take that for an answer, I'd tip my water glass all over the plate.

hattie43 · 06/03/2022 21:56

I think it would be too much for me tbh , eating out on holiday is a great pleasure and he habits are extreme and inappropriate. Personally I'd make my excuses and not go.

It's not the same but I dropped a previous friend because I couldn't cope with her eating / restaurant habits . Everything she chose from the menu was dissected, cooked , served a different way , added to , dropped from the recipe. . Then when it arrived it had to be covered, literally covered so you couldn't see the food in hp sauce no matter what the dish , roasts , curries .
Then when watching others eat she would constantly throw insults , fat pig , how can he / she eat out looking like that etc etc
It was just too much .

Londoncallingme · 06/03/2022 21:57

YABU not to be upfront about it and discuss it. Say you love her company but mealtimes are a nightmare with her and you want to take turns in choosing where to eat and strictly no leftover collection unless it’s hers.

ufucoffee · 06/03/2022 21:57

If I have whatever left on my plate and she begins her judgement on leaving food and how wrong it is because people are starving, I do shut her down, usually by telling her it makes no difference to starving people whether my leftovers go into the bin or my stomach. But when she says ‘I’m going to take them home then. I can’t stand leftover food’, if I said ‘no’, she’d ask why, and what do I say?

Simple. You say 'because it's my food and I don't want you to so I'm telling you you can't'. But I'd definitely not go on holiday with her. She'd get right on my nerves with all that nonsense.

FluffyBlueJumper · 06/03/2022 21:57

Yanbu. And I am having a really hard time atm with my eating disorders.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 06/03/2022 22:04

I wouldn't go, that would drive me bonkers.

I have some food issues myself, but do my utmost to ensure these don't have a negative impact on friends when I'm out with other people! If this means the only meal I can eat on the menu is salad, but everyone else wants to go to X restaurant, then so be it. I couldn't imagine doing anything like what your friend does!

SorryPardonWhat · 06/03/2022 22:11

@JoanOgden

"Hi, I'm sorry but our approaches to food and eating out are too different, I think we would just wind each other up."
This. Simple and true.
BoodleBug51 · 06/03/2022 22:15

Her mental health isn't your responsibility OP.

And is outside the remit of anyone that isn't a trained professional.

But I would be honest in why you don't want to go.

GiantHaystacks2021 · 06/03/2022 22:16

Say no and tell her why.
She sounds like a right consequence.

Cornishclio · 06/03/2022 22:48

She is obviously unwell . I would not go on holiday with her because she sounds like hard work and having a fight on where and what to eat every night sounds wearing. You can still be a good and supportive friend but it takes a special kind of friend to be able to go on holiday for an extended period of time. I would be honest with her and encourage her to seek help.

Grilledaubergines · 06/03/2022 23:01

@Dguu6u

You really shouldn’t have enabled her. Why are you letting her take your leftovers? Why did you not tell her to either order some food or not go to the restaurant with you? It’s bothering you, she knows it’s odd, it’s time she understand the impacts it has on her social life. By allowing her abnormal behaviour, she will never get pushed to seek help and change.
Why are you blaming the OP? That’s really quite nasty.
Franklyfrost · 06/03/2022 23:05

I’d let the leftover thing go, it is maybe a bit embarrassing for you but that’s all. The following her around to restaurants is too much of an imposition on your time and you can say that you don’t want to do that.

I like to control what I eat and it’s very difficult to do so on holiday. Could you suggest self catering? Finding a suitable supermarket/ health food shop on day one, ideally near the accommodation, can help a lot. I do this even if staying in a hotel and pack a couple of bowls, a knife and some cutlery, that way I can have more control over food. It’s very stressful for me having other people make all my meals. You’re not going to be able to fix her eating disorder but you can acknowledge it and accommodate it without damaging the friendship. Ask her how she’d feel about spending less time on food and more time on culture/shopping/entertainment/ relaxation and suggest finding one local shop she’s happy with. I’m not suggesting you eat what she does, just say I’m going to grab a pizza nearby tomorrow so we have more time for the beach, will you join me or shall we stop by the supermarket for you first? You can still have a nice meal out at a place of her choice on one evening. Also, you can split up at lunch time and meet up again in the afternoon if she wants to cross town to eat linguine.

Bonniegirlie · 06/03/2022 23:07

She's unbelievably selfish. I couldn't be friends with her, never mind going on holiday with her. You're a saint for even considering it.

Backujij · 06/03/2022 23:15

@Franklyfrost

I’d let the leftover thing go, it is maybe a bit embarrassing for you but that’s all. The following her around to restaurants is too much of an imposition on your time and you can say that you don’t want to do that.

I like to control what I eat and it’s very difficult to do so on holiday. Could you suggest self catering? Finding a suitable supermarket/ health food shop on day one, ideally near the accommodation, can help a lot. I do this even if staying in a hotel and pack a couple of bowls, a knife and some cutlery, that way I can have more control over food. It’s very stressful for me having other people make all my meals. You’re not going to be able to fix her eating disorder but you can acknowledge it and accommodate it without damaging the friendship. Ask her how she’d feel about spending less time on food and more time on culture/shopping/entertainment/ relaxation and suggest finding one local shop she’s happy with. I’m not suggesting you eat what she does, just say I’m going to grab a pizza nearby tomorrow so we have more time for the beach, will you join me or shall we stop by the supermarket for you first? You can still have a nice meal out at a place of her choice on one evening. Also, you can split up at lunch time and meet up again in the afternoon if she wants to cross town to eat linguine.

Self catering is what we normally do. It doesn’t work as you describe. It should, but it doesn’t. Instead, we ‘call in’ to a shop after the beach or wherever, and she spends forever asking what the local sausage is, Googling which vegetables are in season etc. If I buy anything that differs, which I do do, I get a mini lecture about why it’s wrong.

It’s a constant battle.

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AtrociousCircumstance · 06/03/2022 23:21

You can’t do this any more and unfortunately you were inadvertently enabling her, as a PP suggested. Hard not to if you want to spend any time with her but in allowing her any control over how you deal with leftovers/order food/feel forced to justify food decisions then you are allowing her eating disorder oxygen. Very difficult and very sad all round. I don’t know what to suggest. Could you be (gently) honest with her? Further than previously?

LadyPropane · 06/03/2022 23:36

I think you should tell her that you don't want to go on holiday with her anymore, and be honest about the reasons why. Be kind about it, but don't beat about the bush.

I think this is the best thing you can do for her right now. It might give her a bit of a shock and make her realise how extreme her behaviour has come, and may spark some will to change.

Nanny0gg · 06/03/2022 23:38

@HailAdrian

Mumsnet is reeeally nasty about mental illness.
So what do you suggest the OP should do?
amc8583 · 06/03/2022 23:39

As someone who has recovered from an eating disorder, from what you write, there is something going on with her. I can remember how exhausting that behaviour is and sadly what the others around me must have gone through at meal times. It's not enjoyable and not worth your energy or emotions to have to deal with it. I wouldn't go.

Shelby2010 · 06/03/2022 23:44

I don’t think you should go away with her - it sounds far too stressful. However, if you do want to spend time with her, could you visit her instead? Obviously stay in a hotel so you don’t starve. Then you can see how she is in her home environment & also speak to her DH.

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