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To not want to go on holiday with friend due to her eating disorder?

225 replies

Backujij · 06/03/2022 17:16

Or at least what I think is an eating disorder.

I go on holiday with a friend every so often, and she has asked me to join her on a city break later this month. I love her and usually enjoy her company, but her attitude to food has got to the point where I don’t want to go.

If I leave anything on my plate there is a huge fuss made about wasting food. She will have my leftover food boxed up and carry it around for the rest of the evening. Nothing wrong with that if it was substantial, but it’s even if it’s a few carrots or a couple of spoonfuls of soup, and she makes such a big thing of it, always with questions like ‘how much do you waste at home? You should keep anything you don’t finish at home and have it for your next meal until it’s gone’. On one occasion, she took back to our hotel a bit of pie I hadn’t finished, and had the filling for dinner one evening and the pastry the next, and refused to order any dinner while I ate because she’d had the leftovers.

She also decided exactly what restaurants we’re eating in before we arrive on holiday, and there is no leeway. She will quiz the waiters about the food and their suggestions for a lengthy time to find out if it’s local food etc before she orders, and it’s embarrassing. She has woken me up in the morning to show me the menu of where we’re eating that night. She makes a huge fuss of having to have exactly what she wants to eat at exactly where she wants to eat, and never ever consults me. If I offer up alternatives she’ll say (huffily) ‘well we can go there but no, I won’t be eating there. I want something healthier/more local/less expensive/not as touristy’ etc.

Sometimes she’ll come to restaurants she hasn’t chosen, refuse to eat, then ask if she can have people’s leftovers when they’ve finished.

She got so thin at one point that she was hospitalised with exhaustion and told to lay off exercise for a while. I have never asked her about whether she thinks she has an eating disorder, although she did say on our last holiday that she did get too thin at one point.

She knows she’s controlling about food and has asked if it bothers me. I have said it does, but she never changes.

I know that she’s probably ill, but WIBU to refuse to go on holiday with her any more? It’s a shame because otherwise I adore her company and have known her many years, and we live on opposite sides of the country so we really only get to see each other when we go away.

AIBU to stop holidaying with her because of this when it is likely she can’t help it? Should I go and try and be supportive?

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gettingolderandgrumpy · 06/03/2022 18:27

Going on holiday and eating in restaurants is part of the holiday and the whole choosing every place and bagging up food I’d have to say something.
Explain that you are concerned for her issues with food and right now a holiday isn’t a good idea . If she shrugs it off explain I’ll only reconsider if you accept your issues and we have some compromise such as you get a say in where you go and she also orders food . She doesn’t take small amounts of leftovers and this ridiculous splitting a leftover pie into 2 meals is frankly insane and I wouldn’t even let her do that in my company.if she doesn’t agree then say sorry no holiday. If it doesn’t make her get some help at least it’ll make her think .

PinkSyCo · 06/03/2022 18:29

Sometimes she’ll come to restaurants she hasn’t chosen, refuse to eat, then ask if she can have people’s leftovers when they’ve finished.

What?? Omg how embarrassing! 😳
I’m not usually one to worry too much about what other people think but I think this would make me die of embarrassment and would be enough to stop me holidaying with her. I feel for her because she obviously has deep issues, but your holiday should be enjoyable and relaxing YANB at all unreasonable to not want to spend it with her.

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 06/03/2022 18:36

It does sound as though she has food issues, even if not a disorder as such.

By all means support her, but that doesn’t mean having to go on holiday with her. It seems to me that it would be beneficial to tell her why, as the more she normalises her behaviour the less likely she is to seek help. However, I’m no expert!

Looubylou · 06/03/2022 18:37

She needs help desperately. My relative was severely anorexic for many years, I lived with her and had holidays with her. She wouldn't dream of doing any of this controlling others shit. You are not helping her by giving in and allowing her more than 50:50 choice of where to eat, or control over your left overs. She can control her intake as much as she likes - but not your food. Your left overs are still your food. I would agree strict rules about this before booking. She will be extremely anxious at losing control but the sky won't fall in. I would avoid self catering - she has even more opportunity to control then.

heyitsthistle · 06/03/2022 18:38

Fuck me, this is exhausting. I'd rather go on my own 😅

Backujij · 06/03/2022 18:42

@AlisonDonut

What would happen if you refused to let them bag up the food for her, or threw it in the bin when you left the restaurant?

Or if you refused to go where she wanted and went somewhere on your own?

She seems to have alot of power over you. Why do you let her?

She would be argumentative over it and it would make the atmosphere really uncomfortable. I could go off on my own to eat and then meet up with her for drinks but it wouldn’t make much difference. It would just go into the ‘I am only going to have one bottle of beer tonight and I’m going to bed early because I want to go on a hike at 6am’ or whatever. The control would just transfer.
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Averyproperteaparty · 06/03/2022 18:44

There’s not going to be much joy on a holiday with her. I wouldn’t go.

Ellopet · 06/03/2022 18:44

I agree about eating separately if you enjoy everything else, and have the conversation before booking

MarshaBradyo · 06/03/2022 18:48

Don’t go and be honest about why

indecisivewoman81 · 06/03/2022 18:50

I wouldn't go and I would be honest about why you're not going. Explain that her disordered eating habits ruin your holiday and make you feel very uncomfortable. She won't like it but she might re-evaluate whether she has a problem

lljkk · 06/03/2022 18:51

@Lunificent

I think you’d be a saint to go on another of these holidays. Don’t go.
^ That. I'm tetchy about food waste & can't imagine behaving like she does. Your life is too short for this aggro.
HailAdrian · 06/03/2022 19:02

Mumsnet is reeeally nasty about mental illness.

MissAmbrosia · 06/03/2022 19:02

I couldn't even be friends with such a person. It would drive me insane.

DrManhattan · 06/03/2022 19:05

Text book eating disorder behaviour.
She needs to go on holiday with someone else. Hope she recovers

5zeds · 06/03/2022 19:09

Tell her you find the endless focus on food/health/environment unpleasant and so you don’t want her to box up your leftovers or monitor your food any more.

Hawkins001 · 06/03/2022 19:11

@Backujij

Or at least what I think is an eating disorder.

I go on holiday with a friend every so often, and she has asked me to join her on a city break later this month. I love her and usually enjoy her company, but her attitude to food has got to the point where I don’t want to go.

If I leave anything on my plate there is a huge fuss made about wasting food. She will have my leftover food boxed up and carry it around for the rest of the evening. Nothing wrong with that if it was substantial, but it’s even if it’s a few carrots or a couple of spoonfuls of soup, and she makes such a big thing of it, always with questions like ‘how much do you waste at home? You should keep anything you don’t finish at home and have it for your next meal until it’s gone’. On one occasion, she took back to our hotel a bit of pie I hadn’t finished, and had the filling for dinner one evening and the pastry the next, and refused to order any dinner while I ate because she’d had the leftovers.

She also decided exactly what restaurants we’re eating in before we arrive on holiday, and there is no leeway. She will quiz the waiters about the food and their suggestions for a lengthy time to find out if it’s local food etc before she orders, and it’s embarrassing. She has woken me up in the morning to show me the menu of where we’re eating that night. She makes a huge fuss of having to have exactly what she wants to eat at exactly where she wants to eat, and never ever consults me. If I offer up alternatives she’ll say (huffily) ‘well we can go there but no, I won’t be eating there. I want something healthier/more local/less expensive/not as touristy’ etc.

Sometimes she’ll come to restaurants she hasn’t chosen, refuse to eat, then ask if she can have people’s leftovers when they’ve finished.

She got so thin at one point that she was hospitalised with exhaustion and told to lay off exercise for a while. I have never asked her about whether she thinks she has an eating disorder, although she did say on our last holiday that she did get too thin at one point.

She knows she’s controlling about food and has asked if it bothers me. I have said it does, but she never changes.

I know that she’s probably ill, but WIBU to refuse to go on holiday with her any more? It’s a shame because otherwise I adore her company and have known her many years, and we live on opposite sides of the country so we really only get to see each other when we go away.

AIBU to stop holidaying with her because of this when it is likely she can’t help it? Should I go and try and be supportive?

What if you went on holiday but had separate food arrangements ?
Backujij · 06/03/2022 19:12

@HailAdrian

Mumsnet is reeeally nasty about mental illness.
If you do know the best way to approach this, I am very much all ears, because at the moment I’m just ignoring the problem.
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Schmz · 06/03/2022 19:12

@HailAdrian

Mumsnet is reeeally nasty about mental illness.
Yes- not always but certainly on this thread !! An eating disorder is a very serious mental illness,

She’s not well, look at it like a disability
She can’t help it

I get that she’s hard work to go on holiday with,
I get that you may decide that it’s too much like hard work,
And decide to not go,

But don’t kid yourself that she could just stop this behaviour if she only listens to how annoying / inconvenient etc it is

She can’t help it !!!!

KohlaParasaurus · 06/03/2022 19:13

I think it's reasonable for you to choose not to go on a holiday that you know in advance is going to revolve around your companion's rigid and obsessional behaviour regarding food, and to tell her that you find it too stressful to cope with. I'm sure she's not doing it on purpose and she can't just snap out of it or even meet you part way, because eating disorders don't work like that, but that doesn't mean you need to tolerate her making it your problem as well as hers, even for a short period of time.

TidyDancer · 06/03/2022 19:14

Personally I couldn't go, but I think you need to be honest with her. Be kind about it by all means, but making up an excuse won't help anyone. Her behaviour is unacceptable and embarrassing. Whatever the reason for it, you don't have to tolerate a holiday full of it.

Backujij · 06/03/2022 19:14

@schmz Where have I said that? If I thought she’d stop by telling her, then I’d have told her a long time ago.

My whole post is whether it’s unreasonable to stop going on holiday because of her behaviour when it is caused by an eating disorder.

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AngelinaFibres · 06/03/2022 19:17

My husband's sister is like this with food. Nothing must be left, even if the portions are absolutely enormous. You cannot have pudding if you have left any of your mains. She is the eldest sibling and the others have always given in to her as they were brought up with the same rules. My parents absolutely hated the rules of post war Britain and had nothing to do with the eating things you didn't like, finishing every scrap on your plate rubbish. My SIL tried to enforce her rules with me from the moment we met . I told her politely but firmly that I did not live like that. She finds it difficult to curb her need to control but I just ignore her and carry on. We live 5 hours drive from each other so I have only ever stayed with her once ,years ago, and she has only ever been to my house once in 20 years. It is easier to meet halfway on neutral territory. I could not go on holiday with someone like her . Holidays are supposed to be fun. You are perfectly entitled to tell your friend that you cannot holiday/eat out with her again.

Schmz · 06/03/2022 19:18

Tbf you haven’t OP - it’s more the response of others here !
If she’s a good friend, I’d suggest having a chat with empathy, about how you can manage the food / eating issue as you find it tricky (understandably)

HailAdrian · 06/03/2022 19:18

@Backujij of course I don't know how to approach it, I don't know the woman! I think a bunch of MNers banging on about how annoying she must be and how they couldn't bear to be friends with her when she seems to have a serious mental illness is fucking weird though.