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Have I/we been ‘acquaintance zoned’

223 replies

JanuaryJones22 · 01/02/2022 13:33

Bit of b’ground, and apologies if it’s long.

Family moved to a different area of the country at the end of summer. DC started school for first time and We and DC quickly became friendly with another couple and their DC.

They were also new to village but not wider area itms? We’ll call them Pam and Tom.

Since Sept there’s been lots of playdates and coffees between Pam and I and kids, with lots instigated by P&T including; hosting us for Sun lunch, dinner at a restaurant near where they used to live which they thought we would enjoy and a spa morning for Pam and I. All successful and clear we all had a hoot.

Lots in common with regular just nice long chit chatty messages back and forth between us throughout the wks. Was happy we’d found potential ‘friend friends’ and not just a ‘Mum friend’.

We’ve been having work done and finally repaid and hosted twixtmas drinks/nibbles. Mistake, we were all tired/bloated from Xmas. Also DH clearly forgotten how to host, spiling drinks, not topping up drinks, even tho he said he would take charge of that, got drunk, kept switching off my Spotify and putting his random play lists on and making us all listen, making random cocktails, atmosphere flat, clear P&T were not impressed. They were also a bit snooty about a few things which was a little red flag. Despite slow refills Pam got V drunk and took over convo, I felt like I was really boring but couldn’t get a word in edge ways! For two weeks they just kept moaning about how hungover they were in the following days.

Since then dynamic has changed.

They were desps for us to meet another couple they were friends with and organised for NY day lucnh, Pam cancelled this at last minute – understandable, said would rearrange asap, for us all to meet. This hasn’t happened and she dropped into a convo they’d been for lunch with other couple and then clearly remembered she possibly hadn’t meant to tell me and went v red/sheepish.

Messages have slowly dried to short/cursory and now nothing. Quite a contrast.

We’ve 4/5 playdates since Xmas (equally arranged/initiated by Pama and I tbf) but they have been a tad strained, probs not helped by kids being grumpy.

We also had synchronised drop-offs and would often walk with them to school as both on same route, since the start of term they are going much earlier so not seeing them then.

Thought a coffee sans kids would be good, Pam didn’t seem too keen and cancelled at last min; telling me how busy they are with work; they have their own bus and a big project on so totally understandable.

Last wk we had something planned in just Pam and I which had been in diary ages,I txt over wknd to conf, Pam said she’d let me know, did a few days later but was so negative, ‘will we have time, feeling pressured with the project, weather doesn’t look great, not covid but I’m coming down with a cold just to warn you….but still up for doing it’. Really?!? Felt I had no choice but to put her out of her misery and suggest rearranging, she obvs said yes and ‘I’ll be in touch’. She hasn’t been.

Told myself well they are so busy. Saw her today fine but breezy, I remarked they must be flat out and Tom said actually not bad, not much we can do at mo. Told Pam she looked great (she did) and she v sheepishly said well we’re meeting friends for brunch. Obviously, she can meet who she wants, clearly, and has other friends locally before anyone starts. But plainly they are not that busy are they. She finished up with lots of slightly embarrassed we must get something in, we’ll do something asap, but it felt awkward and no mention of the thing we’d canceled
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Am I reading too into this, I’ve lost a lot of confidence since lockdown and giving up work after having DC so worried my perspective might not be great?

Do I instigate a coffee/lunch or should I just take the hint and delete the convo/number to save any embarrassment, and keep it ‘ friendly breezy’ if I see them?

OP posts:
Ihaveamagicwand · 02/02/2022 22:35

Been in this position. It hurts!! In our case it was new neighbours who had moved a lot with the forces. We had children about the same age, had good friends who were just moving away and we got love bombed! Made to feel we were the most amazing family, lots of social dates, meals at theirs and ours, outings, lots of coffee and wine. We’d never met a family like them before!

But we were ‘Phase 1 friends’ and as the weeks and months passed the initial intensity cooled, I was a bit relieved to be honest as I’d felt a bit uncomfortable with us almost living in each other’s pockets.

I came to realise that we had just been there, willing to make friends with them and they had lots of experience in making new friends quickly in their various postings. We were just their first stepping stone to the local community, someone to go to the school gates and toddler groups with.

You can either try and dissect all your actions and conversations to see where everything started to go wrong but that’s not good for your MH - it certainly wasn’t good for mine!
OR
Accept that you and they recognised kindred spirits. Both newly moved into your village, both had children the same age, both looking to make friends reasonably quickly. You both helped each other in those first few weeks and months, you need to find acceptance of that so that you can find and make new friends.

PoshPyjamas · 02/02/2022 22:38

Am I the only one who thinks that ‘hosting skillz’ aren’t really necessary when having one other couple over? I wouldn’t expect to come away from such an evening anything other than trolled - as ‘host’ or guest.

PoshPyjamas · 02/02/2022 22:39

Trollied - not trolled!

Vloggamamma · 02/02/2022 22:48

@LovedayCL

It’s a shame you didn’t offer them pombears.
Hahahah and a few tinnies to wash them down 😂😂😂should have also suggested putting car keys in a fishbowl 😂😂😂
Vloggamamma · 02/02/2022 22:49

@PoshPyjamas

Trollied - not trolled!
Lol but it seems they were both trolled and trolled anyway!
Buttermuffin · 02/02/2022 22:56

Your dinner sounded fine. I can't imagine going to someone's house and caring about hosting skills. It's not a restaurant. You'll never know the answer to why they've moved on. They just have. Step back and forget them.

Mollymoostoo · 02/02/2022 23:44

Seriously do people spend this much energy in friendships? If something is right it should be easy.

cutebutscary · 02/02/2022 23:46

Try not to worry , you sound like a nice friend , I think you've dodged a bullet tbh

Insanelysilver · 03/02/2022 01:06

It sounds like Pam is no longer interested in being friends with you. I’d not make any more moves for seeing Pam or play dates with kids and if she ever eventually suggests a coffee with you I’d be too busy or be going down with a cold.
Find some new friends. She sounds a bit judgey anyway.

Smellycat290 · 03/02/2022 08:18

I think that’s very harsh and a bit judgey. Sounds like they all drank a lot and OP doesn’t need to be thinking that it’s their fault or they’ve blown it!

It’s really disappointing when you think you’ve made a friend and then realise you haven’t. I would pull right back (even if you don’t want to) and concentrate your energies on other connections. When you’ve been there a bit longer you might find out that she’s not someone you want to be friends with anyway, and that you’ve dodged a bullet!
Try not to take it personally too. It’s not anything wrong with you and nothing you did, they have just decided you’re not for them. You don’t say much about Tom - maybe he is the one who has decided, so maybe just keep the mum friendship as that seemed to be going well?
Either that or just ask her outright! If nothing else it’s be fun to see her squirm and see what she says is the reason! Grin

Cherryberrybonbon · 03/02/2022 09:28

Just stop making the effort keep it polite when you see them, do not delete her number just stop texting it

Ihaveamagicwand · 03/02/2022 10:55

You say that your child and a their child are still best buddies and get on well. I think you need to take this into consideration before you decide your course of action. Pulling back from trying to reignite your cooling friendship would seem to be the best course of action. You need to think of your child’s friendship in this situation and this would allow you to invite their child over for a play date without necessarily entailing Pam coming in for coffee and a chat.
It would seem a bit unfair for your child to lose a good friend.

Lanareyrey · 03/02/2022 11:29

I feel like I’m Pam and Tom in a current friendship Grin sorry OP it doesn’t sound good, something has changed just be polite and step back. Something has changed for them. You may come out the other side or it might just fizzle out. These things happen.

Flatwhitetostayin · 03/02/2022 11:33

It really sounds like a bit of a lucky escape. If her friendliness was genuine It would weather a bit if a flat adults play date 😜

Do you think she's embarrassed that her mask slipped when she was drunk ( all the malicious gossip) and that's why she's pulled back?

May be she's go on to her next intense freindship.

Whatever way, I really do think it's been a lucky escape. You sound nice and sincere, and too thin skinned for silly games.

I think we're all a bit flattered by others showing interest, especially after such a weird old couple of years.

FloydWasACat · 03/02/2022 12:46

Sorry OP but this is all a bit Abigail's Party

Cherrysoup · 03/02/2022 13:00

She was ‘mortal’, @JanuaryJones22? Fellow Geordie?

Trouble is that there are 4 of you in the friendship which is a lot of people to all have to get on. Someone I came across professionally made a massive effort to become my friend and we were in and out of each other’s houses. Trouble is, whilst we really liked her, neither of us really liked her husband. It was sometimes quite awkward because we thought he was an arse.

It may be that Pam and Tom think this about one of you, or it may just be that you simply don’t really gel. I find adult friendships very odd. People seem really desperate to be friends and I’m just not bothered.

I think in your case, I’d withdraw, it seems clear that they’re not huge keen. It’s a shame having started off so well, but at least you haven’t pinned all your socialising on them.

Gwenhwyfar · 03/02/2022 14:57

@PoshPyjamas

Am I the only one who thinks that ‘hosting skillz’ aren’t really necessary when having one other couple over? I wouldn’t expect to come away from such an evening anything other than trolled - as ‘host’ or guest.
Well if getting drunk with friends was such a faux pas I think there'd be very few friendships in the UK.
ferntwist · 03/02/2022 17:46

It sounds like you actually don’t like Pam that much either OP, especially from your updates! With good reason too. Lucky escape

MrsBaublesDylan · 03/02/2022 18:49

I went to a house party a few years ago where the hosts' close friend got arse-holed and kept putting on shit music and making 'cocktails'. It felt weirdly aggressive and he managed to kill the atmosphere dead.

Is it possible your guests found your dh's behaviour uncomfortable? Did Pam feel she had to get shit-faced just to cope and Tom was left with you not saying anything, Pam boring on and your dh asserting himself via music and alcohol?

Poor Tom.

Wiseupkid · 03/02/2022 18:55

Being controlling with the music and cocktails is not cool. Doubly bad if your dh is the only one drinking them and the music is really shit.

We have been to dinner parties which were the opposite, standing on ceremony - clapping for the main course etc. In between the eye ball rolling and side eyes, we all decided the hosts were 'hard work' and it wasn't fun, we didn't rush back put it that way. It was a long long evening.

ferntwist · 03/02/2022 19:14

Wow, I can’t believe so many people are so critical of others’ hosting!

CrankyFrankie · 05/02/2022 21:06

She sounds awful, you’ve had a lucky escape!

April506 · 05/02/2022 23:13

Let the kids meet up...its time you too were breezy and so busy too...
I know how horrible it is to feel like this but to be fair we don't really make many if any real close friends once we have grown up.
Everything is fleeting. X
Keep in contact with your old old friends and try to get out and do stuff you like for you and your family.

These two sound like snotty gets anyway.
Be polite , be too busy to have much time for her

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