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Have I/we been ‘acquaintance zoned’

223 replies

JanuaryJones22 · 01/02/2022 13:33

Bit of b’ground, and apologies if it’s long.

Family moved to a different area of the country at the end of summer. DC started school for first time and We and DC quickly became friendly with another couple and their DC.

They were also new to village but not wider area itms? We’ll call them Pam and Tom.

Since Sept there’s been lots of playdates and coffees between Pam and I and kids, with lots instigated by P&T including; hosting us for Sun lunch, dinner at a restaurant near where they used to live which they thought we would enjoy and a spa morning for Pam and I. All successful and clear we all had a hoot.

Lots in common with regular just nice long chit chatty messages back and forth between us throughout the wks. Was happy we’d found potential ‘friend friends’ and not just a ‘Mum friend’.

We’ve been having work done and finally repaid and hosted twixtmas drinks/nibbles. Mistake, we were all tired/bloated from Xmas. Also DH clearly forgotten how to host, spiling drinks, not topping up drinks, even tho he said he would take charge of that, got drunk, kept switching off my Spotify and putting his random play lists on and making us all listen, making random cocktails, atmosphere flat, clear P&T were not impressed. They were also a bit snooty about a few things which was a little red flag. Despite slow refills Pam got V drunk and took over convo, I felt like I was really boring but couldn’t get a word in edge ways! For two weeks they just kept moaning about how hungover they were in the following days.

Since then dynamic has changed.

They were desps for us to meet another couple they were friends with and organised for NY day lucnh, Pam cancelled this at last minute – understandable, said would rearrange asap, for us all to meet. This hasn’t happened and she dropped into a convo they’d been for lunch with other couple and then clearly remembered she possibly hadn’t meant to tell me and went v red/sheepish.

Messages have slowly dried to short/cursory and now nothing. Quite a contrast.

We’ve 4/5 playdates since Xmas (equally arranged/initiated by Pama and I tbf) but they have been a tad strained, probs not helped by kids being grumpy.

We also had synchronised drop-offs and would often walk with them to school as both on same route, since the start of term they are going much earlier so not seeing them then.

Thought a coffee sans kids would be good, Pam didn’t seem too keen and cancelled at last min; telling me how busy they are with work; they have their own bus and a big project on so totally understandable.

Last wk we had something planned in just Pam and I which had been in diary ages,I txt over wknd to conf, Pam said she’d let me know, did a few days later but was so negative, ‘will we have time, feeling pressured with the project, weather doesn’t look great, not covid but I’m coming down with a cold just to warn you….but still up for doing it’. Really?!? Felt I had no choice but to put her out of her misery and suggest rearranging, she obvs said yes and ‘I’ll be in touch’. She hasn’t been.

Told myself well they are so busy. Saw her today fine but breezy, I remarked they must be flat out and Tom said actually not bad, not much we can do at mo. Told Pam she looked great (she did) and she v sheepishly said well we’re meeting friends for brunch. Obviously, she can meet who she wants, clearly, and has other friends locally before anyone starts. But plainly they are not that busy are they. She finished up with lots of slightly embarrassed we must get something in, we’ll do something asap, but it felt awkward and no mention of the thing we’d canceled
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Am I reading too into this, I’ve lost a lot of confidence since lockdown and giving up work after having DC so worried my perspective might not be great?

Do I instigate a coffee/lunch or should I just take the hint and delete the convo/number to save any embarrassment, and keep it ‘ friendly breezy’ if I see them?

OP posts:
Hellosunshiner · 01/02/2022 15:51

What exactly were they snooty about and what were red flags on the twixtmas drinks? I think that might provide a few more clues.

Loopytiles · 01/02/2022 15:51

What is ‘twixtmas’?!

Seems a bit like - intense - early dating! And you’ve all found things out about each other’s behaviour that you dislike.

As it’s potential friendships - between DC, you and Pam, two couples, could go different ways, most likely being that the DC are friends if they continue to get on well and you’re friendly acquaintances.

Your OP was pretty intense on the detail of interactions. If this was a dating thread you’d likely be advised to ‘detach’ a bit!

Fantasea · 01/02/2022 15:55

It's clear the evening didn't go well but Pam monopolising the conversation as a guest is very rude in itself, you mention you couldn't get a word in. You felt that DH wasn't stepping up with the drinks, yet Pam still managed to get extremely drunk so clearly the 'pace' with which the drinks arrived were more than sufficient. Complaining about a hangover for 'days' is hardly your fault, you didn't pour it down their necks. This is really rude, the correct sentence is 'thank you for having us over on Saturday', if they have to mention it. They don't sound like very nice people, keep things civil for the kids' sakes but keep your dignity about arranging anything further, you'll be pleased you did.

Tilltheend99 · 01/02/2022 16:03

Guessing you are a big Sebastian Stan fan op 😉

Don’t think you need to delete but also think it does sound more like a friendly acquaintance sitch rather than good friends.

I don’t know much about villages but assume this is a bit what it is like, seeing the same people around regularly enough to be on speaking terms and going to some events/parties.

Or alternatively she could be one of those people who has ‘holiday romance’ friendships; really quick, intense friendships with that go out like a flash in the pan (I have a friend that does this ((not with me lol)) and can tell each time she has a new best friend)

Definitely don’t take it to heart. Try and get involved with what you can and I’m sure you will meet a few more people.

Don’t worry about the part either. Sounds like most parties I’ve thrown/been to.

itwasntaparty · 01/02/2022 16:03

Your post reads like a cringe and deeps chick lit novel or magazine article. Move on.

Selttan · 01/02/2022 16:07

I agree with another poster sounds like you were flavour of the month and now they've moved on.

I'd just keep things light say hello when you see them but wouldn't bother arranging any catch-ups with them.

midsomermurderess · 01/02/2022 16:08

It sounds as if they've decided it's not a good fit. Remember people you got chummy with first term at university and then realised you didn't want to take it further? Friends for a reason, a season and all that.

jpbee · 01/02/2022 16:14

Putting myself into Pam's shoes - could it be that she is embarrassed about how drunk she got and doesn't feel comfortable being around you now? I'm going off my own experience here, but if I get too drunk I feel really embarrassed and overthink it for a long time after. And I would probably feel like avoiding the people I was with if possible.

I doubt you will ever really know the reason, but just bet to back off now and accept that the friendship may be over, sad as that is.

Anonymous48 · 01/02/2022 16:16

You know, your post would be a lot easier to read and understand without all of the abbreviations.

SheWoreYellow · 01/02/2022 16:19

I’m also wondering what they were being snooty about.

TatianaBis · 01/02/2022 16:20

Sounds like DH was a bit of an arse and they backed off.

But equally sounds like Pam was a bit of an arse.

People who are your friends gravitate to you naturally, you don't have to chase them endlessly texting about playdates.

Escapetothecatshome · 01/02/2022 16:27

It all sounds like your more invested in the friendship than she is, she's sending out signals which you're seeing but not actually taking notice off. She trying to tell you - yes lets be friends but we don't need to talk to each other or see each other every 5 minutes.
She's asking for a bit of space - give it to her.
Focus your attention on making new friendships but be aware people like their space, and many people like to meet on their terms, I've found pushing friendships rarely work out.

sonjadog · 01/02/2022 16:32

Relationships of all sorts that quickly get intense often also burn out after a short time. I think that is what has happened here, for whatever reason. I think you just move on and leave this couple at the edges of your social circle.

rookiemere · 01/02/2022 16:34

I wonder if they're cutting down on their drinking as a new year resolution and have you mentally pegged as their drinking buddies.

For whatever reason they're pulling back so don't embarrass yourself by keeping on asking. Let the DCs have a friendship and be bright and breezy in chat.

oakleaffy · 01/02/2022 16:36

@JanuaryJones22
I made the huge mistake of once telling a mother of one of my son’s friends that I was lonely. (Divorce,new area)

Now that is something I’d learned the hard way about.

If people sense one is in any way “ Needy” they run a mile.

I read that in a lifetime if one has enough friends to count off on the fingers of one hand, you are doing well.

workshy44 · 01/02/2022 16:38

God people are so nasty on here.
So what if it wasn't a thrilling night (they do happen)and your DH was a bit drunk, hardly crimes of the century considering she was plastered too.

I suspect they didn't have a great night, probably a bit bored and have decided you are not as cool as they thought and have now decided to move onto bigger and better things.
You obviously impressed Pam at the beginning as the "right" sort of people and now for whatever reason have decided you are not.
Lucky escape I think as you sound lovely
I would back right off and would not initiate any communication, let her do the running and I would reply as she does, curse and perfunctory

AutomaticMoon · 01/02/2022 16:43

@T00Ts Merryneum 😃 I sniggered 🤭

Howshouldibehave · 01/02/2022 16:52

If you knew your husband was a bit pissed and not making your guests drinks, why didn’t you?

St0rmTr00per · 01/02/2022 16:52

Was pam alone with your DH at any time? could he have said/done something she disapproved of? Maybe got out a bowl and his car keys?

Cherrybomb197 · 01/02/2022 16:54

Oh gosh, this sounds just way too intense for me. We have had the same sets of “couple friends” for years; but it’s a lot more laid back and we don’t see them even as much as once a month.

I don’t think I’ve got any friends that I see as much as once a week!

Thirtytimesround · 01/02/2022 16:55

They thought you were a good fit for close family friends, now since the disastrous party they’ve decided you’re not a good fit after all, and they’re trying to drift away. Yes you have been acquaintance-zoned, but there isn’t anything you can do about it. This isn’t an old friendship in need of a bit of repair, this is them looking for a certain type of company and they’ve decided you’re not it.

Sorry, feels crap I know. Been there!

Motnight · 01/02/2022 16:58

5 play dates since Xmas? That is loads. I think that you have been put in the 'useful to spend time with for the kids' zone. Up to you whether you are happy with that.

But it all sounds so intense!

UnsuitableHat · 01/02/2022 17:04

Sounds like the dynamic might have changed, so maybe hold back for a while on trying to arrange meet ups other than the play dates. Things might naturally fall into a different pattern as time goes on.

CrabPuff · 01/02/2022 17:05

You did absolutely nothing wrong but they’re just not that into you any more. And who cares. Your kids are friends, you are not going to be besties and just as well as most people your age have their friendship group sorted so mum friends are just a pain to schedule on top…

thepeopleversuswork · 01/02/2022 17:05

TBH I think people massively over-invest in this sort of thing.

Any kind of budding friendship is something which has potential but its not guaranteed. People get far too deep into a rabbit hole of trying to make friends and then get the hump when someone doesn't want to move as fast as them. It's not an entitlement.

There's no way of knowing whether this is personal or they have too much going on. You'll never get a straight answer if you ask either. Just let it go, stop thinking about it and stop taking it to heart. The lighter touch you keep it, the more likely it is to right itself. And if it doesn't it isn't worth the candle anyway.

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