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Have I/we been ‘acquaintance zoned’

223 replies

JanuaryJones22 · 01/02/2022 13:33

Bit of b’ground, and apologies if it’s long.

Family moved to a different area of the country at the end of summer. DC started school for first time and We and DC quickly became friendly with another couple and their DC.

They were also new to village but not wider area itms? We’ll call them Pam and Tom.

Since Sept there’s been lots of playdates and coffees between Pam and I and kids, with lots instigated by P&T including; hosting us for Sun lunch, dinner at a restaurant near where they used to live which they thought we would enjoy and a spa morning for Pam and I. All successful and clear we all had a hoot.

Lots in common with regular just nice long chit chatty messages back and forth between us throughout the wks. Was happy we’d found potential ‘friend friends’ and not just a ‘Mum friend’.

We’ve been having work done and finally repaid and hosted twixtmas drinks/nibbles. Mistake, we were all tired/bloated from Xmas. Also DH clearly forgotten how to host, spiling drinks, not topping up drinks, even tho he said he would take charge of that, got drunk, kept switching off my Spotify and putting his random play lists on and making us all listen, making random cocktails, atmosphere flat, clear P&T were not impressed. They were also a bit snooty about a few things which was a little red flag. Despite slow refills Pam got V drunk and took over convo, I felt like I was really boring but couldn’t get a word in edge ways! For two weeks they just kept moaning about how hungover they were in the following days.

Since then dynamic has changed.

They were desps for us to meet another couple they were friends with and organised for NY day lucnh, Pam cancelled this at last minute – understandable, said would rearrange asap, for us all to meet. This hasn’t happened and she dropped into a convo they’d been for lunch with other couple and then clearly remembered she possibly hadn’t meant to tell me and went v red/sheepish.

Messages have slowly dried to short/cursory and now nothing. Quite a contrast.

We’ve 4/5 playdates since Xmas (equally arranged/initiated by Pama and I tbf) but they have been a tad strained, probs not helped by kids being grumpy.

We also had synchronised drop-offs and would often walk with them to school as both on same route, since the start of term they are going much earlier so not seeing them then.

Thought a coffee sans kids would be good, Pam didn’t seem too keen and cancelled at last min; telling me how busy they are with work; they have their own bus and a big project on so totally understandable.

Last wk we had something planned in just Pam and I which had been in diary ages,I txt over wknd to conf, Pam said she’d let me know, did a few days later but was so negative, ‘will we have time, feeling pressured with the project, weather doesn’t look great, not covid but I’m coming down with a cold just to warn you….but still up for doing it’. Really?!? Felt I had no choice but to put her out of her misery and suggest rearranging, she obvs said yes and ‘I’ll be in touch’. She hasn’t been.

Told myself well they are so busy. Saw her today fine but breezy, I remarked they must be flat out and Tom said actually not bad, not much we can do at mo. Told Pam she looked great (she did) and she v sheepishly said well we’re meeting friends for brunch. Obviously, she can meet who she wants, clearly, and has other friends locally before anyone starts. But plainly they are not that busy are they. She finished up with lots of slightly embarrassed we must get something in, we’ll do something asap, but it felt awkward and no mention of the thing we’d canceled
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Am I reading too into this, I’ve lost a lot of confidence since lockdown and giving up work after having DC so worried my perspective might not be great?

Do I instigate a coffee/lunch or should I just take the hint and delete the convo/number to save any embarrassment, and keep it ‘ friendly breezy’ if I see them?

OP posts:
cansu · 01/02/2022 17:06

It sounds like the whole thing is hard work. Are they really worth all this angst? People who would bin you off because they didn't like your hosting skills sound hard work. Friendships should be fun. If you are having to play a role to get Pam to like you, I simply wouldn't bother with her. Be much less available.

NandorTheRelentlessCleaner · 01/02/2022 17:06

It is very rare to have an all-family-friendship: the kids are friends, the mums are friends, the dads are friends…. Extremely rare imo

It sounds quite intense and that you see eachother a lot

Just back off a bit and take it at a slower pace

Try to not be “needy”

I once had a family friendship like this, where DH thought the other dad was a complete prick…. Now we socialise just the women only, maybe once every (2) month Grin

justasking111 · 01/02/2022 17:06

Could be Pam's husband reining It in here. Your OH and she got plastered the evening was not a success and his ire was directed at his wife afterwards for being a loud over bearing monopolising drunk.

Men can be funny like that

JustLyra · 01/02/2022 17:18

It sounds like they’ve either pulled back after your DH was a drunk idiot.

Or they’re the people who seek out newbies to be the “we’re the folks to be friendly to everyone and get all the goss first” types. There’s one of them in our village and they drop newbies as soon as there are new newbies

Redlorryyellowduck · 01/02/2022 17:19

You sound like a bunch of drunk! Anything could have been said or done and misconstrued in drink. Maybe just focus on other friendships and don't get so intense, or so drunk, so quickly.

Snoopsnoggysnog · 01/02/2022 17:30

@JustLyra

It sounds like they’ve either pulled back after your DH was a drunk idiot.

Or they’re the people who seek out newbies to be the “we’re the folks to be friendly to everyone and get all the goss first” types. There’s one of them in our village and they drop newbies as soon as there are new newbies

This. I think it’s this
BobBobbity · 01/02/2022 17:34

I find this all slightly full on anyway - I can’t imagine all these invites with people I’ve only known for a few months.

Christmissy · 01/02/2022 17:43

I agree that sounds like a lot of play dates since Christmas!!

Could it possibly be they saw you as ‘couple friends’ aka where you all get along as a foursome and Tom has gone off your DH since that night so Pam has pulled back to just hanging out with you whilst DC are involved?

esloquehay · 01/02/2022 17:50

Stop saying 'desps' and 'obvs'.

CandyLeBonBon · 01/02/2022 17:52

Maybe P&T were just annoyed that you didnt put your keys in the bowl and swap at the end of the eveningDo they have pampas grass in their front garden op? Grin

Lanique · 01/02/2022 17:53

@workshy44

God people are so nasty on here. So what if it wasn't a thrilling night (they do happen)and your DH was a bit drunk, hardly crimes of the century considering she was plastered too.

I suspect they didn't have a great night, probably a bit bored and have decided you are not as cool as they thought and have now decided to move onto bigger and better things.
You obviously impressed Pam at the beginning as the "right" sort of people and now for whatever reason have decided you are not.
Lucky escape I think as you sound lovely
I would back right off and would not initiate any communication, let her do the running and I would reply as she does, curse and perfunctory

This
Whatisthepointinthis · 01/02/2022 17:56

Pam sounds a bit like one of my good friends.

She constantly seeks out new friendships and wants to be besties with them. She showers them with attention, conversation, messages etc. She gets invited to their houses and arranges meet ups. (I am probably one of her projects too!). She wants to know all about them and be “better” friends with them than anyone else.

I’m not sure what drives it, whether loneliness, competitiveness or low self esteem. Either way it is cringey from the outside looking in, but at the time it is flattering. Then you realise shes doing the same to others.

I took a step back, stayed friends but put more effort into other friendships.

The frustrating thing for me was that she tried to monopolise my other friendships too so that she was just a little bit more friendly with them than I was. Even if she’d only just met them..

It’s not you it’s her.

SalmonEile · 01/02/2022 17:56

Is it possible Pam is embarrassed about being drunk and talking non stop at the dinner?
What was her husband like , do you know him well ?

Rudeppl · 01/02/2022 18:01

They pulled back after your husband had one too many. Maybe he said something offensive?

minipie · 01/02/2022 18:02

Whatisthepointinthis isn’t it equally possible the OP is like your friend?

Ourlady · 01/02/2022 18:03

Sounds to me like you two were Tom and Pams new ‘flavour’ (of the month)
These people pick up new flavours as a hobby. All intense in the beginning then they find a new flavour and you’re out in the cold.

ChristmasTreeGorgeous · 01/02/2022 18:06

You’ve been parked mate! Don’t fret, it happens to the best of us. Party sounded brilliant though, Spotify fails, drunken husbands. Fine in my book, I’d hang out with you.

Whatisthepointinthis · 01/02/2022 18:09

@minipie

Whatisthepointinthis isn’t it equally possible the OP is like your friend?
Yes I suppose so!

But then she hasn’t been the one who has backed off and started prioritising other friendships.

To be honest it does all sound a bit too much too soon and if Pam had another friend before op moved to the area, I bet that friend was truly miffed to be moved down the pecking order!

DickMabutt73962 · 01/02/2022 18:27

YABU for the abbreviations. I thought they owned a literal 'bus' 🙄

SueSaid · 01/02/2022 18:34

@ChristmasTreeGorgeous

You’ve been parked mate! Don’t fret, it happens to the best of us. Party sounded brilliant though, Spotify fails, drunken husbands. Fine in my book, I’d hang out with you.
Grin
Gwenhwyfar · 01/02/2022 18:36

@Redlorryyellowduck

You sound like a bunch of drunk! Anything could have been said or done and misconstrued in drink. Maybe just focus on other friendships and don't get so intense, or so drunk, so quickly.
Get over yourself. It was a party.
Mummadeze · 01/02/2022 18:49

In your situation I would arrange play dates still, maybe a bit less frequently. And I might possibly arrange a dinner party with quite a few couples and extend the invitation to them to give the social side of it another chance in a less pressured situation. But if they declined that invitation I wouldn’t ask again. I would also definitely try and make other friends which I am sure you are. I would probably waste a lot of energy on wondering what’s gone wrong though, as that is what I am like, so I totally sympathise!

Giraffesandbottoms · 01/02/2022 18:54

clear P&T were not impressed. They were also a bit snooty about a few things

Can you elaborate on this? I can’t help but think the key lies herein

seekinglondonlife · 01/02/2022 18:57

This is why I keep to smalltalk at the school gates.

Bumpy23 · 01/02/2022 19:04

If it was proper friendship material, you'd be friends and not uncomfortable about it. Just do the play dates.

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