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Have I/we been ‘acquaintance zoned’

223 replies

JanuaryJones22 · 01/02/2022 13:33

Bit of b’ground, and apologies if it’s long.

Family moved to a different area of the country at the end of summer. DC started school for first time and We and DC quickly became friendly with another couple and their DC.

They were also new to village but not wider area itms? We’ll call them Pam and Tom.

Since Sept there’s been lots of playdates and coffees between Pam and I and kids, with lots instigated by P&T including; hosting us for Sun lunch, dinner at a restaurant near where they used to live which they thought we would enjoy and a spa morning for Pam and I. All successful and clear we all had a hoot.

Lots in common with regular just nice long chit chatty messages back and forth between us throughout the wks. Was happy we’d found potential ‘friend friends’ and not just a ‘Mum friend’.

We’ve been having work done and finally repaid and hosted twixtmas drinks/nibbles. Mistake, we were all tired/bloated from Xmas. Also DH clearly forgotten how to host, spiling drinks, not topping up drinks, even tho he said he would take charge of that, got drunk, kept switching off my Spotify and putting his random play lists on and making us all listen, making random cocktails, atmosphere flat, clear P&T were not impressed. They were also a bit snooty about a few things which was a little red flag. Despite slow refills Pam got V drunk and took over convo, I felt like I was really boring but couldn’t get a word in edge ways! For two weeks they just kept moaning about how hungover they were in the following days.

Since then dynamic has changed.

They were desps for us to meet another couple they were friends with and organised for NY day lucnh, Pam cancelled this at last minute – understandable, said would rearrange asap, for us all to meet. This hasn’t happened and she dropped into a convo they’d been for lunch with other couple and then clearly remembered she possibly hadn’t meant to tell me and went v red/sheepish.

Messages have slowly dried to short/cursory and now nothing. Quite a contrast.

We’ve 4/5 playdates since Xmas (equally arranged/initiated by Pama and I tbf) but they have been a tad strained, probs not helped by kids being grumpy.

We also had synchronised drop-offs and would often walk with them to school as both on same route, since the start of term they are going much earlier so not seeing them then.

Thought a coffee sans kids would be good, Pam didn’t seem too keen and cancelled at last min; telling me how busy they are with work; they have their own bus and a big project on so totally understandable.

Last wk we had something planned in just Pam and I which had been in diary ages,I txt over wknd to conf, Pam said she’d let me know, did a few days later but was so negative, ‘will we have time, feeling pressured with the project, weather doesn’t look great, not covid but I’m coming down with a cold just to warn you….but still up for doing it’. Really?!? Felt I had no choice but to put her out of her misery and suggest rearranging, she obvs said yes and ‘I’ll be in touch’. She hasn’t been.

Told myself well they are so busy. Saw her today fine but breezy, I remarked they must be flat out and Tom said actually not bad, not much we can do at mo. Told Pam she looked great (she did) and she v sheepishly said well we’re meeting friends for brunch. Obviously, she can meet who she wants, clearly, and has other friends locally before anyone starts. But plainly they are not that busy are they. She finished up with lots of slightly embarrassed we must get something in, we’ll do something asap, but it felt awkward and no mention of the thing we’d canceled
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Am I reading too into this, I’ve lost a lot of confidence since lockdown and giving up work after having DC so worried my perspective might not be great?

Do I instigate a coffee/lunch or should I just take the hint and delete the convo/number to save any embarrassment, and keep it ‘ friendly breezy’ if I see them?

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Livelovebehappy · 02/02/2022 20:21

It all sounds like too much hard work to me. I couldn’t be arsed. Friendship meet-ups are supposed to be relaxed and fun, and if you’re focusing on things too much and stressing about music and drinks, it’s just not worth the time or effort. Sounds like you didn’t feel comfortable with each other, which is something that happens with time once you get to know each other a lot better. Six months isn’t long enough to really know someone well enough to feel totally relaxed in their company.

JanuaryJones22 · 02/02/2022 20:23

Thank you again for replies, we go through properly

but just wanted to say to @CountessWindyBottom read the bloody original post properly. We only took so long because we've been having loads of work done on the house, which it says!!! Bloody hell I've not a kitchen for weeks and the driveway was all dug up at one point, getting to the front door was like walking through the trenches which they knew! Jesus I still only had half my worktops (another thread entirely) and was to take receipt of the new oven so wasn't about to start cooking lunch in a microwave and 2 ring worktop burner was I!

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Vloggamamma · 02/02/2022 20:28

No, why should you instigate anything when she has repeatedly cancelled. Busy yourself with making new friends and pay no heed to her. I hate when people just drop you like this and you have no clue really what turned them off. As a side note, have you ever watched king of queens? An old enough comedy but hilarious. There’s one episode where Carrie, the wife is trying to make couple friends in work and her hubby Doug keeps doing odd things behind her back to turn the friends off. A hilarious watch.

WhatsErFace2020 · 02/02/2022 20:31

@Vloggamamma YESS!! Hilarious that one 🤣 Hopefully tomorrow Pam will be on with some kind of AIBU Pom bear dinner party thread where the Ops DH Stirred their drinks with the toilet brush or something

CountessWindyBottom · 02/02/2022 20:37

@JanuaryJones22

Thank you again for replies, we go through properly

but just wanted to say to @CountessWindyBottom read the bloody original post properly. We only took so long because we've been having loads of work done on the house, which it says!!! Bloody hell I've not a kitchen for weeks and the driveway was all dug up at one point, getting to the front door was like walking through the trenches which they knew! Jesus I still only had half my worktops (another thread entirely) and was to take receipt of the new oven so wasn't about to start cooking lunch in a microwave and 2 ring worktop burner was I!

I’ve clearly hit a nerve. Not having a cooker doesn’t mean that you couldn’t have prepared a generous spread. It’s not an excuse. Nor are empty glasses.
Vloggamamma · 02/02/2022 20:45

[quote WhatsErFace2020]@Vloggamamma YESS!! Hilarious that one 🤣 Hopefully tomorrow Pam will be on with some kind of AIBU Pom bear dinner party thread where the Ops DH Stirred their drinks with the toilet brush or something[/quote]
Ahahah love this 😂or Pam says the Ops DH kept trying to strip,asking if he has too much hair on his belly 😂😂😂this episode is definitely one of the best !

luckylavender · 02/02/2022 20:50

Sounds exhausting. Too much too soon.

Lookforwardtosummer · 02/02/2022 20:52

Sorry, but please stop with the 'desps' !!!

oknowimscared · 02/02/2022 20:53

Haven’t RTFT, but I have read your updates, OP. Pam sounds exactly like someone I know. My money is on she swooped on you and DH because she’s already used up and discarded previous “friends”. These people make you feel special, but if you somehow fail to behave how they think you “should” (or maybe fail to fan their massive ego in the way they’d like) you’ll be ditched and bitched about. Don’t give her any more oxygen, beyond basic civility.

Fluffmum · 02/02/2022 20:56

I think your husband has ruined it. Pull back and let the kids be friends

Vloggamamma · 02/02/2022 21:03

@DickMabutt73962

YABU for the abbreviations. I thought they owned a literal 'bus' 🙄
Hahaha 😝 I love your name it’s actually rather like something I would come up with
Vloggamamma · 02/02/2022 21:04

@oknowimscared

Haven’t RTFT, but I have read your updates, OP. Pam sounds exactly like someone I know. My money is on she swooped on you and DH because she’s already used up and discarded previous “friends”. These people make you feel special, but if you somehow fail to behave how they think you “should” (or maybe fail to fan their massive ego in the way they’d like) you’ll be ditched and bitched about. Don’t give her any more oxygen, beyond basic civility.
Lol I bet Pam has her own ditch and bitch club a bit like a stitch n bitch except without the stitch and a lot of bitch
Kelly7889 · 02/02/2022 21:21

It's like a Mike Leigh play. Pam's husband probably said to her after your "Party" when Pam was being a gobby paralytic drunk and he had watched your husband getting drunk and playing cringe music "We aren't going round there again - ever." That's all I think it is. This couples friendship didn't work when they met you in your home environment.

BringYourOwnBoris · 02/02/2022 21:31

The red flag for me would have been the fact that they are relatively local but don't have any friends as such? That would make me wonder why.
I don't think they suddenly dumped you because of shit music and slow refilling of glasses though. There had to be more to it than that, for me I would only drop friends if they said something really offensive. For example; racism, homophobia or extremism would make me run for the hills. Are you absolutely sure you didn't say something offensive?

LouLouie · 02/02/2022 21:33

@oknowimscared

Haven’t RTFT, but I have read your updates, OP. Pam sounds exactly like someone I know. My money is on she swooped on you and DH because she’s already used up and discarded previous “friends”. These people make you feel special, but if you somehow fail to behave how they think you “should” (or maybe fail to fan their massive ego in the way they’d like) you’ll be ditched and bitched about. Don’t give her any more oxygen, beyond basic civility.
I too have had "friends" like this. Very similar situation tbh and it does make you go a bit crazy. Firstly, your husband got drunk, so what. Drinks weren't filled, so what. You were friends having a nice time together, it's not come dine with me where you're scored! Friends don't judge. Sounds very intense from the start. They put a lot of effort in but that was there choice. Maybe you didn't meet their expectations. I would focus on your thoughts rather than second guessing what they are thinking. Do you really want these type of friends?
LovedayCL · 02/02/2022 21:35

It’s a shame you didn’t offer them pombears.

LouLouie · 02/02/2022 21:37

@BringYourOwnBoris

The red flag for me would have been the fact that they are relatively local but don't have any friends as such? That would make me wonder why. I don't think they suddenly dumped you because of shit music and slow refilling of glasses though. There had to be more to it than that, for me I would only drop friends if they said something really offensive. For example; racism, homophobia or extremism would make me run for the hills. Are you absolutely sure you didn't say something offensive?
They sound to me like they are the type who would dump someone because they didn't meet expectations in terms of topping up drinks etc.
Whatinthe · 02/02/2022 21:55

Just wanted to comment because, as someone who has to move fairly regularly for OH work, I totally understand the pain of new relationships and how positive it all can feel when you hit it off with someone. I've had a few friendships that started out quite quickly but they nearly all petered out. Whilst the friendships that have endured have been the ones that have slowly grown. Despite moving multiple times I'm always surprised by how long it truly takes to settle somewhere and build good relationships there.

Personally I'd stop initiating any meet ups and see what happens.

Bussinbussin · 02/02/2022 21:57

Echoing the pp. Having moved around a fair bit I've found that there are people who like to scoop up the 'new kids in town' and take them under their wing for awhile, then drop them and leave them to it once it looks like they're established.

couldhavenotcouldof22 · 02/02/2022 21:59

Treat em mean, keep em keen. Be cool and unfussy.

ferntwist · 02/02/2022 22:04

At a drinks gathering for us and a couple of mates at home between Christmas and New Year I’d expect everyone to get pissed, but maybe that’s just me and my mates. To me it feels like you’re being a bit hard on your husband. If they’ve axed the friendship because he didn’t too up drinks quickly enough and got drunk in his own home at Christmas they can’t have been that into it. Like you say, Pam got trollied too.
I don’t get why it was a problem that he put music on either, why were your choices more conducive to keeping the friendship than his? You sound like a sweetheart and I’m not sure why you even want them as friends.

ferntwist · 02/02/2022 22:24

Just out of curiosity could I ask how old you and they are, are they older?

whydiditalkaboutbruno · 02/02/2022 22:24

Hmm I’d find it odd for one not-so-great evening to ruin things, especially if you’d all been getting on heat beforehand with lots of successful meet-ups. Most people would just move on and forget about it if the friendship was otherwise working.

Who knows. In my experience the couples I’ve witnessed making intense friendships very quickly always seem to move onto the next couple quickly and go through friends. It’s strange but maybe they are similar?

Londoncallingme · 02/02/2022 22:26

@grapewine

The dinner sounds like a bit of a disaster. Your husband got drunk?

They've pulled back. I would have done the same, to be honest.

Really? You’ve never had a drunk friend at a dinner party? You’re clearly going to the wrong kind of parties!