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LGBTQ talk in schools

545 replies

JaggedStone · 26/01/2022 22:50

Named changed for this as could be outing.
We are very open with our children and explain life to them in ways they can understand and to ensure they are respectful of everyone and are always open and honest with us.
A LOT of parents have kicked up a fuss about the fact that teachers have spoken to the children today about LGBTQ but it is government mandated as compulsory so essentially the parents can not opt out of it unless they are planning to home school.
Some of the views seem quite hypocritical and some are saying they shouldn’t have these kind of talks yet.
AIBU to think that they are being unreasonable?

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DdraigGoch · 26/01/2022 22:53

What sort of content is being covered?

titchy · 26/01/2022 22:56

Who is 'they' in your question?

Whether it's suitable or not will depend entirely on the content and the age of the children. Neither of which you have included in your post. Can you clarify?

neverknowinglyunreasonable · 26/01/2022 22:56

Do the parents also get upset when the kids get taught the earth is round or that dinosaurs existed?

JaggedStone · 26/01/2022 23:00

Primary school aged children.
From what I gather the basics of the terminology i.e. Lesbian is a woman who loves a woman.

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titchy · 26/01/2022 23:03

@JaggedStone

Primary school aged children. From what I gather the basics of the terminology i.e. Lesbian is a woman who loves a woman.
4 year olds or 11 year olds? Though women loving women seems innocuous enough. Was that all it was?
bishophaha · 26/01/2022 23:06

You aren't being too clear op - is it the lgb or the t or the q (which many gay people do find offensive)?

If it's "a woman who loves a woman", what definition of "woman" are they using?

JaggedStone · 26/01/2022 23:11

They are offended that any conversation about this took place at all. And they as parents should have been informed for consent as they would have pulled their children out.
It seems all year groups had a similar talk today.
I don’t know the exact content this is what my children have told me.

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bishophaha · 26/01/2022 23:13

They are offended that any conversation about this took place at all

About what though? The fact that people who love people of the same sex exist? I'd be wary of jumping to conclusions if you don't know what was actually said or what the complaints specifically relate to.

bishophaha · 26/01/2022 23:14

I mean, it sounds like standard PSHE content- is that what it was?

narcdad · 26/01/2022 23:17

@bishophaha

I mean, it sounds like standard PSHE content- is that what it was?
Yes sounds like it, school emailed all parents about a week before the talk was to take place.

My 8yo had the day off that day.

ThuMuClu · 26/01/2022 23:19

Because you don’t want them to participate?!

titchy · 26/01/2022 23:19

@JaggedStone

They are offended that any conversation about this took place at all. And they as parents should have been informed for consent as they would have pulled their children out. It seems all year groups had a similar talk today. I don’t know the exact content this is what my children have told me.
You can't seriously expect all year groups to have had the same content? Maybe some other year groups were told boys who like ballet and pink were probably trans girls?
IzzyD0ra · 26/01/2022 23:21

From what I gather the basics of the terminology i.e. Lesbian is a woman who loves a woman

I wonder what definition was used for 'trans' and 'queer'. That might be the issue.

ThuMuClu · 26/01/2022 23:21

Parents who think primary age children don’t know a whole load of bizarre half facts about wildly adult topics are lying to themselves. 🤷🏻‍♀️

JaggedStone · 26/01/2022 23:23

@bishophaha
“ About what though? The fact that people who love people of the same sex exist? ”

This is exactly the complaint. That the school should not be telling their children about this.

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sparepantsandtoothbrush · 26/01/2022 23:24

My 8yo had the day off that day

Why?

JaggedStone · 26/01/2022 23:26

They think the school are confusing their children.
There’s always quite a lot who are against the discussion on religious grounds.

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doorornottodoor · 26/01/2022 23:27

No issues with the LBG bit but not happy about trans ideology being taught as fact. That trans women are women. No, they are not biological women.

JaggedStone · 26/01/2022 23:27

@ThuMuClu Grin 😂

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Smileatthesmallthings · 26/01/2022 23:27

[quote JaggedStone]@bishophaha
“ About what though? The fact that people who love people of the same sex exist? ”

This is exactly the complaint. That the school should not be telling their children about this.[/quote]
Hahaha. Parents in DS's school will have a fun time with that one when my 4yo introduces both of his mummies Grin

EeeICouldRipATissue · 26/01/2022 23:31

My teen had a lesson last week where they learned about LGBT people.
I didn't have a problem with it, LGBT exists so I think it's great that they learn about it nowadays.
(May even have said how it's good they learn about that now as it was illegal when I was at school due to section 28) was surprised to hear that it couldn't be spoken about before.

JazzyBBG · 26/01/2022 23:32

Interested to know what sort of area it is and if a religious school or not?

The school should have a PSHE policy which outlines what is taught at what age.

Flutterflybutterby · 26/01/2022 23:33

@JaggedStone

They are offended that any conversation about this took place at all. And they as parents should have been informed for consent as they would have pulled their children out. It seems all year groups had a similar talk today. I don’t know the exact content this is what my children have told me.
Parents should have been able to give consent.
JaggedStone · 26/01/2022 23:33

@Smileatthesmallthings Smile This is it exactly! The views upset me as how can the parents be so closed minded.

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UltraVividLament · 26/01/2022 23:34

There's no way that every year group had the same talk delivered on the same day about a PSHE topic.

Of course it's unreasonable to object to factual information about different types of relationships/families that exist in the society that the children are in (assuming the UK). As long as it's age appropriate, and based in fact without perpetuating harmful sex-based stereotyping, which in a UK school it should have been.