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LGBTQ talk in schools

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JaggedStone · 26/01/2022 22:50

Named changed for this as could be outing.
We are very open with our children and explain life to them in ways they can understand and to ensure they are respectful of everyone and are always open and honest with us.
A LOT of parents have kicked up a fuss about the fact that teachers have spoken to the children today about LGBTQ but it is government mandated as compulsory so essentially the parents can not opt out of it unless they are planning to home school.
Some of the views seem quite hypocritical and some are saying they shouldn’t have these kind of talks yet.
AIBU to think that they are being unreasonable?

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FairyLightQueen · 26/01/2022 23:35

Oh for goodness sake! It is not section 28 anymore and it is fantastic that children are learning about this in school. More and more gay families are having children (DW and myself included) so children will be learning earlier when they learn about their classmates families. It's basic common sense to teach children about all different types of families. Why is this a big deal?

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JaggedStone · 26/01/2022 23:37

@Flutterflybutterby But mandatory lessons per the government do not require consent?

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Jellycatspyjamas · 26/01/2022 23:38

It depends on content, I have no issue with my kids learning about same sex relationships, a number of our family friends are in sane sex relationships so it’s really not news to them. I’d be much more concerned about what they’re covering in terms of trans ideology.

EeeICouldRipATissue · 26/01/2022 23:38

@fairylightqueen
Oh for goodness sake! It is not section 28 anymore and it is fantastic that children are learning about this in school
Exactly, and that was exactly my reaction too (see my post just before yours )

narcdad · 26/01/2022 23:43

@sparepantsandtoothbrush I didn't feel it was appropriate and wasn't given enough information in the content or delivery.

Mulhollandmagoo · 26/01/2022 23:45

[quote narcdad]@sparepantsandtoothbrush I didn't feel it was appropriate and wasn't given enough information in the content or delivery.[/quote]
In what respect do you feel it is inappropriate, not being rude I'm just wondering?

musicalfrog · 26/01/2022 23:46

@Jellycatspyjamas

Absolutely this!

Check your school's website, they might have a guide as to what they're covering on there.

narcdad · 26/01/2022 23:52

@Mulhollandmagoo my dd has ASD and they school would not advise me on what was being covered, I felt it would be too confusing for her, I also feel that at 8 she was too young. I let her have the day off instead.

I will probably do the same when it comes to my other daughter having this talk, unless the school can provide more details of content.

redbigbananafeet · 26/01/2022 23:56

[quote narcdad]@Mulhollandmagoo my dd has ASD and they school would not advise me on what was being covered, I felt it would be too confusing for her, I also feel that at 8 she was too young. I let her have the day off instead.

I will probably do the same when it comes to my other daughter having this talk, unless the school can provide more details of content. [/quote]
Too young for what? Specifically what was she too young for?

narcdad · 26/01/2022 23:59

Too young to be talking about transgender and sexuality, I can't be more specific as I had a lack of information on the content, which was not specific in what they were covering

Enough4me · 27/01/2022 00:02

If the content encourages children to be respectful and understand that same sex attraction is as normal as opposite sex attraction then fine, if they confuse children into thinking sex is an imaginary construct that can be changed like changing an outfit then no, not fine and I can see why parents are unhappy.

ItsCoachBombay · 27/01/2022 00:03

Must be that time of year, DS must have had some sort of talk. He's 7, came home and said "did you know, some kids have 2 daddies that love eachother and some kids have 2 mummies that live eachother" I said yes darling families are all different but as long as everyone is loved, and happy makes no difference.

And then the cheeky sod said. Can I have 2 mummies, that's two mummies who can cook me tea. Can you find another mummy please.

I replied, no I'm ok cooking tea on my own thanks, and that's not all mummies or women do. Maybe you should start helping me cook tea, so then it's our job together!

(For context I'm a lone single parent, it's just me and DS and I keep my private dating life, very private)

I'm also not gay 🤣 so slight problem with his plan, but didn't feel the need to divulge his error.

Toofuckingearly · 27/01/2022 00:09

@Jellycatspyjamas

This in a nutshell

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JaggedStone · 27/01/2022 00:19

Ok. So DS who is in the later years of primary school said they spoke about Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Straight. DD in the younger years didn’t go much further than L and G but she never seems to remember what happened in lessons only what happened at lunchtime.
It was definitely every year had a talk in their own classes so it was age appropriate.

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JaggedStone · 27/01/2022 00:20

We are not a religious school but there are a significant number of religious people who attend (various religions). South East region.

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HomeIsDogs · 27/01/2022 00:21

I’m in favour of the LGB part being taught in an age appropriate way. I’m totally against any teaching of the T part though. Affirming that boys can be girls and girls can be boys is harmful and incorrect. I’m very thankful my kids don’t buy into this ideology as there’s definitely a pressure from others their age to. Schools teaching the T part and now some having LGBT clubs at lunchtime/after school is just frightening.

mummykel16 · 27/01/2022 00:27

To much nonsense being taught at schools now, there even seems to be an anti lesbian agenda behind it .

Should be easier to say consenting adults can and do love consenting adults of all types.

SleepingDoglets · 27/01/2022 00:28

Depends on what’s being taught.

I spoke to ds’s teacher about a planned sex education lesson as they were discussing gender and trans issues, and i have an issue with this taught as fact (ie sex change, children being able to choose their gender) at age 9-11.

I have no issue with sexuality being taught in an age appropriate way though.

baroqueandblue · 27/01/2022 00:49

I also feel that at 8 she was too young. I let her have the day off instead. Too young to be talking about transgender and sexuality

How often do you acknowledge that heterosexual attraction and relationships form part of a social and cultural agenda which confuses any child who can't identify with them - and that there are many such children - for your daughter's benefit? Your child might even be one of those children, and at age 8 she may well already be confused and unable to disclose and discuss fears of being 'different'. Do you avoid such questions of basic identity formation in your house? Your daughter has missed out on age-appropriate openness and guidance that her classmates have received. She will already have related impressions and questions that she may not be able to articulate, for various reasons. How do you suppose she will now go about starting to answer them for her own purposes? Some of the content the other children have been offered will come up in the playground, for example, and turn into Chinese whispers, among other things. At least those who were at the lesson have the benefit of direct communication from the adult concerned, whatever they made of it.

Ellowyn · 27/01/2022 00:53

I'd be home schooling if I lived there. This is awful!

The school should be teach reading, writing, math, geography, history and the rest of the basics. It is not their job to talk about who is loving who.

EeeICouldRipATissue · 27/01/2022 00:54

I’m totally against any teaching of the T part though
Why shouldn't they learn that trans people exist?

FairyLightQueen · 27/01/2022 00:58

@narcdad

Too young to be talking about transgender and sexuality, I can't be more specific as I had a lack of information on the content, which was not specific in what they were covering

So what exactly are children from same sex families meant to do if they are 'too young' to know about their parents?

EeeICouldRipATissue · 27/01/2022 00:58

The school should be teach reading, writing, math, geography, history and the rest of the basics. It is not their job to talk about who is loving who.
It's not like they'll be going on about how they do the sex, or loving who - more like letting them know that same sex couples exist.
Why can't they know that two women or two men can get married, or that there are same sex families where there might be two mums or two dads?

FairyLightQueen · 27/01/2022 00:59

@mummykel16

To much nonsense being taught at schools now, there even seems to be an anti lesbian agenda behind it .

Should be easier to say consenting adults can and do love consenting adults of all types.

It's anti lesbian to... teach about same sex couples? Are you quite alright?

EeeICouldRipATissue · 27/01/2022 01:00

So what exactly are children from same sex families meant to do if they are 'too young' to know about their parents?
Exactly!
I mean, I'm in a heterosexual marriage me and husband with kids.
Why is it OK to know about hetero relationships but not gay ones?

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