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prettyisall · 25/01/2022 18:39

I've just been having a chat with a friend about salary as he is currently on the look out for a new job, he was quite surprised when I told him my salary.

It's got me thinking, so what kind of Salary would you expect from this role?

Main duties:
Providing bespoke quotations to suit customers needs

Taking orders and entering onto account systems

Sending proforma invoices / taking payment

Putting together production sheets using formulas on excel for every order (always bespoke)

Answering phone and email queries

Outsourcing costs for components / ordering them when needed (this is not so often)

Taking care of all social media and website

Making Eflyers for marketing campaigns

All other basic administrative duties such as keeping spreadsheets up to date.

Location - Suffolk.
Time at Company - 15 years
Around 15 employees.

OP posts:
FloatyBoaty · 25/01/2022 19:40

@prettyisall

Yeah so if you walked, they’d need to get 2-3 people to replace you. They’d never be able to recruit your role. And they’d be lost without you.

So bear that in mind when you ask for a pay rise! You are in a massively strong position.

Whydoesthecatalwaysdothat · 25/01/2022 19:40

I was going to say £20k before I saw your update. The only reason I thought that is because
a) it's Suffolk
b) you were talking to a bloke and he was surprised at your salary
c) it's admin

Whoever says this is entry level admin clearly has no idea. Entry level admin is photocopying, stuffing letters in envelopes, answering the phone, taking messages, etc. Basically all the jobs you could give a 16 year old school leaver to do.

Your job is clearly far more involved than that and you probably have a lot of autonomy over your role without the need for a boss to stand over you and tell you what to do.

After 15 years, your salary should have gone up by more than £3k. I very much doubt that has even covered the cost of inflation.

How does it compare to the local market? Have you looked? I always have my eye on what is going on around me and I've always been paid more than average.

Starseeking · 25/01/2022 19:44

Having seen your updates, you should go in to the review asking for £30k, you are hugely underpaid and undervalued. A pay increase of just over £3k in 15 years is wage deflation. From the description of your role, and the specialist parts of the job people have mentioned, your company would need to replace you with 2 people if you left, so they'd be saving half a cost if they increased your pay by 50%.

FiloPasty · 25/01/2022 19:47

I’d say 30k get out and look locally if there are opportunities:) and maybe speak to your boss about a raise in the meantime!

WutheringHeights66 · 25/01/2022 19:49

Very interesting to read what your friend said and your salary as I would have guessed 25k too even before I RTFT

mjf981 · 25/01/2022 19:50

@prettyisall

Thanks for all the replies!

I'm actually on just over 20k, my friend said there are similar admin / marketing assistant entry roles around for 23- 24k in this area so with length of time and product knowledge etc he would have expected 25k.

It was just out of curiosity really, I like the company and the people I work with so i guess that's why I have not really thought about it.
Another couple wouldn't go a miss though haha.

Thanks all!

Salaries in the UK are awful. A 3000 pay rise in 15 years?! When the cost of housing has at least doubled (tripled?). This isn’t a dig at you OP, just despair at what has become acceptable. FWIW that role would pay double that where I am in Australia.
NCfortoday2021 · 25/01/2022 19:55

£25k would be what I would pay someone in their first year of that role. Not after 15 years!

Theonlyoneiknow · 25/01/2022 19:55

That would probably be £40K or thereabouts in my industry

Theonlyoneiknow · 25/01/2022 19:56

Wow OP, I think you should ask for a payrise :)

starlight13 · 25/01/2022 19:57

I purposely have not looked at any other replies before giving mine but I would say this job would be £32000 taking your 15 years into account.

satci · 25/01/2022 19:58

Similar to me and 18k but I'm paid less than surrounding companies.

Bywayofanupdate · 25/01/2022 19:58

Around £30k?

TripleSeptic · 25/01/2022 19:59

Ask for a pay rise, you'll be under national minimum wage soon, with your experience you could work anywhere else and earn more.

hariborabbit · 25/01/2022 19:59

I was going to say 28k before I saw your update.

You should definitely shop around OP. Your salary might have been reasonable when you started but it's far too low after 15 years in the job.

Alarchbach · 25/01/2022 20:00

I do something similar working for a small family business. I’m part time in a poorer part of the U.K. and my annual equivalent pay would be around £26000

FelicityBob · 25/01/2022 20:04

£100k
Placemarking for the correct answer

camperqueen54 · 25/01/2022 20:04

Early £20ks

YesitsBess · 25/01/2022 20:05

I agree with @FloatyBoaty

How much would it cost them to replace the staff whose roles you have absorbed if they advertised do you think?

I'd definitely be mentioning this at your review!

inheritancetrack · 25/01/2022 20:05

£30K

FelicityBob · 25/01/2022 20:06

Whoops Grin

doublemonkey · 25/01/2022 20:06

Your wages have not kept pace with inflation OP.

You should be on a minimum 25K based on the Bank of England calculator which only calculates to 2020.

www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator

You're actually getting paid less than what you started on! You need a pay increase..💸💰

Moonlaserbearwolf · 25/01/2022 20:06

I'd say £22-25k, but maybe more depending on exactly what website/social media work you do.
Sounds like you've picked up extra responsibility over the years without the extra pay. Definitely worth asking for more - make sure you go to the meeting with a very clear summary of how your role has evolved over the years.

altiara · 25/01/2022 20:07

Wow, admin staff at my company earn on average 35k.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 25/01/2022 20:10

From April, 40 hours a week at the minimum/living wage of £9.50 an hour is just under £20k a year. Most of the major supermarkets committed to pay no less than £10 an hour, and some more than that. So again, full time that’d be £21 ~ £22k. So, given the additional responsibility I’d say £25k ~ £30k

Oblomov22 · 25/01/2022 20:10

Shocked at posts above saying office manager at such a low salary as they are quoting. I was looking for my friend last week and saw an Office manager in Surrey for £40k.