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Am I being an unreasonable friend to retract my invitation to an event?

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CountryGirl17 · 10/01/2022 15:42

Hi. I wonder if you can help me? I would like to know if I am being reasonable or not. Last week, my brother offered me two free tickets to go to the theatre yesterday evening as he couldn’t go. I will be reimbursing my brother in some way for the ‘free’ tickets as a thank you.

I live in the Midlands and the theatre is in London. On Friday, I text my friend who lives in the same town as me and invited her to come along with me. I had in mind that it would have been nice to go together and have pre theatre dinner and drinks. As it would take a few hours to get to London and park etc. going earlier in my mind is better than just going for the performance.

My friend accepted the invitation, only by needing to know if she could get a lift home and that she told me to meet her at the door of the theatre at 7.30pm. This threw me a little, as I was a bit confused by this as I had assumed, we would be travelling down together. However, after a series of texts, I then realised that she was already out in London with friends and had made dinner plans with them on Sunday. So, instead of getting a lift back with them, she would need to get a lift back with me after the performance. Essentially extending her time and mini break in the city. I did press her three times to see if we could meet earlier, so I could get more out of the evening, but she couldn’t. She could only meet me at the door. Eating or travelling alone wasn’t what I had in mind! But, that’s not the end of the world in reality.

However, this left me feeling rather disappointed. I had wanted to spend good quality time with my friend. If I’d have known that she was busy with other people, then I wouldn’t have invited her in the first place and seen her another day. Or better still, before she accepted the invite, I wished that she’d explained her plans before to see if that was okay by me. She essentially accepted the ticket, regardless of what I had in mind for the night and I was having to fall in line with her plans, by meeting her at the theatre. It just didn’t feel right to me.

I know that I would have been driving to London anyway, but from my perspective, it just felt odd to meet her at the door. I also wasn’t getting the full benefit from the theatre experience, but my friend was – she was having the pre dinner and drinks with friends before, then seeing me at a time to suit her, getting the free ticket and the lift home. It just felt more convenient for her than me. It just meant also that I was driving down to London on my own, paying for the fuel and parking to only get 2.5 hours in the theatre with my friend. It just didn’t seem worth my time or effort, given that I live nowhere near London. I was debating in my mind whether it was worth having the tickets and giving them back to my brother.

I then had to bite the bullet. I said on text in a polite way that I recognised that she was busy this weekend and I’d invite someone else instead. Explaining that ‘just’ meeting at the door wasn’t what I had in mind for us. She wasn’t happy with me and was thrilled initially to get the tickets. So, I invited another friend, who ended up paying for the parking and dinner to say thank you.

My friend wasn’t happy that I’d retracted the invite. But am I in the right or wrong? Should I have just gone along with what suited her and met her at the door like she wanted, regardless of what I had in mind? I hate falling out with friends but I feel that she accepted the ticket without thinking of me, who was giving her the ticket.

In hindsight, to have met my original friend at 7.30pm (then go through all the Covid checks), we may have missed the first half as the doors to the auditorium were closed and everyone was seated by 7.15pm. As the tickets my brother gave to me were second row the front in the stalls, this is a further reason why we wouldn’t have been allowed in due to the disruption – this I know only in hindsight.

Was I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
ikeptgoing · 10/01/2022 18:30

Yanbu

Friend wasn't able to travel down with you or meet early enough so tough

She wasn't free as was out in London already and was trying to squeeze theatre in

You had a better time going with a friend who appreciated it and could travel with you

CharlotteRose90 · 10/01/2022 18:30

Unless you said to your friend that you had a spare theatre ticket and would she like to go with you and make the most of it with a meal and drinks etc then YABU sorry. To her it was just a ticket that’s it. Maybe specify in future your plans as I would have thought it was just a ticket too not a meal drinks and then the show.

Ohyesiam · 10/01/2022 18:32

When I read The title I thought oh no never retract an invitation.

But I’m reading the whole story I realised that you were right. she should’ve bowed out gracefully when she realised that her plans to squeeze you in didn’t suit the situation.

piney07 · 10/01/2022 18:32

I think you were completely fine to do that, you were really inviting her to a night out with you rather than the theatre alone, and you were swift in explaining that clearly to her.

namechanger2222 · 10/01/2022 18:34

I don't think OP is being unreasonable.

Even if she mentioned absolutely nothing about dinner and drinks in the original invite ( or binding contract, as some of you see it ), she still had the right to then pull out when her friend said she can only meet her at the door.

Yes ideally she should have made her intentions Crystal clear in her original offer - however, this happens. She assumed her friend would be in her town etc. It's totally fine to say - oh sorry friend, I thought we would travel down and have dinner together and make an evening of it. I'll invite someone who can do those things because otherwise it's a massive effort for me to do it by myself. I don't think it's unreasonable. Even if OH MY GOD, the friend accepted ! It's not a binding contract is it and new info came to light, so everyone can be a bit flexible here... unless this was left a long time and friend cancelled plans etc, but it doesn't sound like that's what happened.

gettingolderandgrumpy · 10/01/2022 18:36

I don’t think your unreasonable but if you said hey do you fancy coming to the theatre with me I have tickets . She may have thought great I’m already in London a freebie and a free lift home . If you explained you wanted to go for dinner beforehand Surely she should understand that you don’t want to drive all the way to London and back just for theatre . She’s just took this opportunity as a freebie and a lift with no thought to you . They were given to you for you to do what you want with so don’t feel bad .

piney07 · 10/01/2022 18:37

Also if she really wanted to go she could have invited you to the dinner with her other friends. Don’t feel guilty, she will get over it and eventually realise she should just be happy that she was first on your invite list!

ivykaty44 · 10/01/2022 18:39

first friend was being rude, the invite was for the whole package - not for her to dismiss bits and pick out just one part.

glad you picked a friend that appreciated the invite and showed you generosity in return

which the other friend failed miserably to do

goawaystormy · 10/01/2022 18:41

Even if she mentioned absolutely nothing about dinner and drinks in the original invite ( or binding contract, as some of you see it ), she still had the right to then pull out when her friend said she can only meet her at the door.

The thing is OP didn't do this. She pressed her friend three times, mulled it over in her head, considered returning the tickets to r brother, and then eventually texted the friend.

If it had gone:

OP: fancy the theatre on Sunday, I have a spare ticket

Friends: sounds great, meet at the door at 7:30 as im meeting some other people before

OP: actually I was thinking more of a whole evening thing with pre theatre dinner and drinks so if you can only make the show I'd rather go with someone who I can make the whole night of it with, sorry, have a good time with your friends

That would've been fine.

However it sounds like OP dragged this out over an extended time by which point friend would've arranged herself around it, thus putting friend out when OP then cancelled later. This all should've happened in much quicker succession with much clearer communication. Not OP 'having things in mind' and trying to press her friend into changing plans and rudely dropping her original plans

WonderfulYou · 10/01/2022 18:42

YABU - you invited her to the theatre and she accepted.

If you wanted to travel down together and have dinner then that should have been in your initial question.

I would be pretty upset with you if you were my friend.

Lou98 · 10/01/2022 18:44

@Nousernameforme

I think she was a Cf on the basis that she was willing to dump her original plan with the other friends as soon as something better came along. Yanbu
She wasn't though was she? If she was then there would be no issue.

OP asked her 3 times to cancel dinner with her friends so they could go out earlier and she said no?

SortMyHouse · 10/01/2022 18:45

Your friend could have invited you for dinner with her other friends.
Agree with PP she is greedy and a user.
Any decent person would have realised travel from the Midlands to London is an event not just a trip to the cinema.

MayLeaveADentInYourSofa · 10/01/2022 18:46

So, you invited a friend who lives near you to a theatre in a different town. Totally reasonable assumption on your part that you would travel together. The onus was on her to tell you that she would already be in London. If she had told you that straight away, you would have been more informed and in a position to decide if it was what you wanted.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 10/01/2022 18:47

Tickets were last minute and she tried to adapt her plans to meet your strict schedule.

Just let it go.

Kite22 · 10/01/2022 18:47

@JeSuis ..... I personally wouldn't travel that far to the theatre, as I have loads of excellent theatre around me. Obviously if I were out for the day, then I wold have to eat somewhere, yes, but I don't like the idea of "going out for dinner" and then having to clockwatch to get to the theatre, no.
However, I was replying specifically to JustUseTheDoorSanta's specific claim that "a visit to the Theatre ALWAYS includes drinks and usually dinner" (which it clearly doesn't) rather than the OP's circumstances on this thread.

Skeumorph · 10/01/2022 18:47

YANBU, I like your directness. She has nothing to complain about.

KaptainKaveman · 10/01/2022 18:51

YANBU OP. She's a tad grabby!!

ZenNudist · 10/01/2022 18:52

If you live outside london and you ask a friend also in the same place if they'd like to go to the theatre in London then it's implied you mean drive / travel together and very likely get some food beforehand in some way.

The correct way to accept would be to have said "I'm in London anyway for dinner do you mind me meeting you there?" The answer would have been " I do mind I want to get dinner beforehand so I'll ask someone else"

Anyway it was reasonable to explain the way you did and friend us unlikely to be annoyed for long.

seekinglondonlife · 10/01/2022 18:58

YWBU for expecting her to know "what you had in mind" but you didn't actually relay this to her. You didn't simply just want to invite her, you wanted a complete experience for you and when you found out she was already in London you were annoyed. You should have been clear about your expectations from the beginning - I think YWBU to retract the invite simply because you didn't make your conditions clear from the outset.

Livpool · 10/01/2022 18:59

YANBU

If you go to the theatre in another city of course you are going to travel together and have food/drinks

slashlover · 10/01/2022 19:01

How did you word your initial message @CountryGirl17? When did you eventually tell her she couldn't come?

Why are people saying friend should have invited OP to dinner with her other mates?

Oblomov22 · 10/01/2022 19:02

Perfectly reasonable. It's nice to see someone so matter-of-fact about it, with clear explanations, rather than the normal MN angst about telling a friend how you feel.

seekinglondonlife · 10/01/2022 19:03

I'm genuinely shocked at those saying that people going to the theatre should know that travel/drinks/dinner together beforehand is standard. I'm NT, well socialised etc but it wouldn't occur to me that all of these things are an obligatory prerequisite to a theatre visit.

UnsuitableHat · 10/01/2022 19:12

I can see why she suggested what she did (meet at the door etc) and don’t think she was being all that cheeky - she was in London anyway and you offered a free theatre ticket. Understandable that she accepted. However I think yanbu generally as it turned into a bit of a faff for you. If you have to drive to London from the midlands for nothing but theatre you’re not really taking the benefit of the free ticket.

WetLookKnitwear · 10/01/2022 19:13

@seekinglondonlife

I'm genuinely shocked at those saying that people going to the theatre should know that travel/drinks/dinner together beforehand is standard. I'm NT, well socialised etc but it wouldn't occur to me that all of these things are an obligatory prerequisite to a theatre visit.
Do you live in London though? Or somewhere else where it’s easy to get to a theatre

London from the West Midlands is a bit of a trek.

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