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Petty falling out with pregnant colleague- what now?

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Jacarandamanda · 05/01/2022 23:57

A colleague and myself have fallen out and I’m not sure what to do from here.

The last few years I have had several miscarriages, most recently early December at 13 weeks. A colleague in my department is pregnant currently.

This is fine, it’s not particularly bothered me and we are perfectly friendly, there’s been nothing bad until now (although I wouldn’t say we are close)

We were having a chat just before Christmas break and she was talking a lot about how she couldn’t believe they were having another baby when they already have a big family, had said definitely no more children and it was such a surprise she was pregnant because her husband had had a vasectomy but she must have been pregnant already without them knowing, all the adaptions to their lives to accommodate another child in the family..

This was ok but a bit difficult to listen to and after about 15 minutes when she directly asked me what I thought about something pregnancy related I politely asked if we could change the subject. I made sure to be polite because I didn’t want to come off as being bitchy (and didn’t want to be!) I just told her I was a little uncomfortable with that question but would love to know about her family xmas plans.

She sort of did a shocked face and said “oh of course” and I thought she had just realised she’d been a bit insensitive and that was it. Maybe she was a little embarrassed but I said I didn’t want her to feel bad at all.

She then told our line manager (in conversation not formally) that I was snappy and out to make her feel bad and being really rude in the conversation. They obviously bought it up with me as a potential issue, but he was actually very understanding when we spoke.

I really don’t think I was rude, maybe she is just being a bit defensive because she is a bit embarrassed? I’m not saying don’t talk about the pregnancy at all but it was really going on and talking about things like birth plans which was just very hard for me - & I only replyed so directly because she asked me something directly. We were talking with another colleague who has also admitted to her that he found it a bit uncomfortable and “over sharey” but she said she understood guys maybe didn’t like talking about that stuff. I don’t want to ask other people at work because I don’t want to look like I’m stirring (or actually stir shit)

Anyway I thought it would blow over but now we are back after Christmas and she is still being quite sour and avoiding me

Should I try and make amends further? I don’t want to be the person who looks like they are being mean to the pregnant lady. But at the same time I don’t think I’m in the wrong…

And yes she knows most of what’s gone on having covered my work for me! We take staggered lunch breaks too so sometimes it’s not easy to avoid her

Help!

OP posts:
Jacarandamanda · 06/01/2022 00:01

I’m really not bothered about an actual friendship with her past a casual work acquaintance for an easy life

Nor do I want any office drama or to look like it’s me being the trouble maker

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Jacarandamanda · 06/01/2022 00:02

It’s making me feel like I don’t even want to go into work but we can’t work remotely

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BetsysBeended410yrs · 06/01/2022 00:08

I would personally just carry on as normal and when you do have to speak to her at work be professional. xx

TansySorrel · 06/01/2022 00:10

You were polite and she completely overreacted in reporting it. You've done nothing wrong. I'd be loathe to extend the olive branch. Maybe just remain polite bit don't engage with the sulking. When does she go on mat leave? At least you'll get a break? I'm sorry for your losses

Chloemol · 06/01/2022 00:10

I would just carry in as normal, be polite if you see her and let her sulk

ashitghost · 06/01/2022 00:10

Hard to say without knowing what she actually asked you.

Aquamarine1029 · 06/01/2022 00:12

I wouldn't give her another thought, personally. Be polite and professional and don't worry about it. She can be a twat if she wants to, and you reserve the right to ignore her.

Somebodylikeyew · 06/01/2022 00:13

I think this might be a fake it till you make it type scenario. I’d just be bright and breezy with everyone including her and pretend nothing had happened for a few weeks, see if it blows over.

Jacarandamanda · 06/01/2022 00:13

She doesn’t go until early summer time so have to put up with her for a while!

The real kick in teeth is that her due date is very close to what mine was and sometimes you can’t help but compare.

Hopefully we will be like ships in the night and by the time she’s back from maternity leave I’ll finally be on mine (please please please)

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ludocris · 06/01/2022 00:13

I'm very sorry that you've experienced miscarriages 💐

However I'm very sorry to say that I think on this occasion you were maybe a tiny bit unreasonable. It's totally understandable why you didn't want to be involved in the conversation but I think it would have been better to just make your excuses and walk away from it. She would have got the message but without the direct discussion. I realise how very British that sounds by the way...

Of course she could have been more sensitive, but I'm sure she wasn't trying to be mean, she was just thinking about her own experiences. Whilst I can't imagine how difficult it must be to listen to someone talk in such a carefree manner when you yourself have been through such heartache, it's unlikely that she's going to have your experiences in the front of her mind at all times.

My advice would be to speak to her directly now. Maybe just to say 'I'm sorry if I made you feel awkward, it's just sometimes difficult for me to engage in detailed conversations about pregnancy because it's a sensitive topic for me, but the last thing I would want is to make you feel bad for talking about your experience'.

I know you don't feel in the wrong, and you're certainly not wrong for feeling how you do. Also it sounds like you didn't speak rudely to her. Nonetheless, you embarrassed her and made her feel bad, and I think you might be best placed to suck it up and make amends.

Once again I'm sorry for your losses and wish you happiness 💐

daretodenim · 06/01/2022 00:14

I'm wondering if she casually told your line manager to get in before you said anything. You said she seemed embarrassed after you asked to change the subject. It seems odd to go from embarrassed to making a casual complaint about your response.

Just be polite and professional with her.

Lalliella · 06/01/2022 00:16

She’s an insensitive bitch. I was in your situation before I had kids, years of trying and 2 early losses, and a colleague who I thought was a friend fell pregnant easily and went on and on and on about it, even though she knew my situation. I used to dread going into work and counted the days till she left. I hated her by the end.

Your colleague has shown her true colours and isn’t worth bothering about. I’d be cool and polite to her, but just get on with your work and don’t engage with her. Sorry you are going through this OP.

Mls1984btc · 06/01/2022 00:17

She sounds rather self-obsessed to me. OP just ignore her and get on with your work. I hate people waxing lyrical about personal detail like this. What makes her think that anybody will be interested?

Onlinedilema · 06/01/2022 00:17

I 'd just carry on. Be prifessional, get on with your job, be polite and helpful but don't initiate conversations other than those relating to work issues.

TerribleCustomerCervix · 06/01/2022 00:19

Carry on as normal- she’s either realised she was being insensitive and is a bit embarrassed and avoiding you, or she’s a dickhead who wouldn’t be worth the emotional energy engaging with.

Worst case, she’ll be out of the office for an extended period shortly anyway.

I was actually working somewhere where something similar happened. My friend had an ectopic pregnancy after finding out she was pregnant shortly after splitting from her boyfriend. Obviously very upset.

A colleague had a very early loss, but fell pregnant again quickly. She would ask my friend in detail about her miscarriage, and then go on and on about being pregnant again. Multiple conversations a day, repeating the same stuff over and over.

Df found this really difficult and eventually just lost it and told colleague that she couldn’t take anymore. Pregnant colleague was so offended that someone who’d just had a loss under difficult circumstances didn’t want to hear the minutiae of someone else’s pregnancy at work.

Their manager tried to mediate with them and it was an utter shit show. He didn’t get anywhere and just gave up in the end and told them not to speak to each other.

Bellyups · 06/01/2022 00:19

Sorry for your loss.
FWIW I agree with everything @ludocris said, who put it much better than I ever could x

Jacarandamanda · 06/01/2022 00:21

I would have just left previously however we only have one lunch room and there was only three of us in there talking

I thought just leaving would make me look stroppy or like I was trying to kick up a drama as it would have been a bit obvious? I didn’t expect her to be thinking of me before her own experience (most people don’t me included, sometimes I put my foot in it too) but she had been talking about herself for along time by anyone’s standards

I tried to be gracious and say “don’t worry, it’s fine” kind of thing and we carried on the conversation from there so I thought we were all good

And it wasn’t like she wasn’t thinking of me at all in regards to having been pregnant because she asked me what I had wanted for my birth plan/if I had thought about it before

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TansySorrel · 06/01/2022 00:22

@daretodenim

I'm wondering if she casually told your line manager to get in before you said anything. You said she seemed embarrassed after you asked to change the subject. It seems odd to go from embarrassed to making a casual complaint about your response.

Just be polite and professional with her.

I think so
frazzledasarock · 06/01/2022 00:23

I’m really sorry for your losses OP.

She sounds completely self absorbed. Who discuses birth plans and husbands vesectomies etc with work colleagues especially ones you aren’t close to?
But then I’ve found some pregnant women behave like everyone is as interested as they are in their pregnancies. And it’s all excruciating trying to politely feign interest.

I do think you’ll have to pretend you haven’t noticed her sulking and be bright and breezy around her.

Jacarandamanda · 06/01/2022 00:23

I think it was well meaning to be fair just ill-judged

“Had you put any thoughts into birth plans before it was it too early?”

I think even minus loss that’s something that no one should have to talk about at work if they don’t want to

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Jacarandamanda · 06/01/2022 00:25

To be honest I’m not much of a sharer anyway so not sure if other people find it weird?

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Jacarandamanda · 06/01/2022 00:25

*before OR was it too early?

Sorry, English not my 1st language!

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AntiHop · 06/01/2022 00:26

She asked about your birth plan knowing that you'd had a pregnancy loss???

frazzledasarock · 06/01/2022 00:26

@Jacarandamanda

I would have just left previously however we only have one lunch room and there was only three of us in there talking

I thought just leaving would make me look stroppy or like I was trying to kick up a drama as it would have been a bit obvious? I didn’t expect her to be thinking of me before her own experience (most people don’t me included, sometimes I put my foot in it too) but she had been talking about herself for along time by anyone’s standards

I tried to be gracious and say “don’t worry, it’s fine” kind of thing and we carried on the conversation from there so I thought we were all good

And it wasn’t like she wasn’t thinking of me at all in regards to having been pregnant because she asked me what I had wanted for my birth plan/if I had thought about it before

That last paragraph. Bloody hell she’s an insensitive dickhead!

I was an utter basket case by the time I’d gone through several miscarriages and if anyone had asked me something so invasive and utterly stupid I’d have bawled my eyes out!

Yeah she’s arse covering. Make sure to causally tell your manager in conversation exactly what she asked you.

Utterly stupid thing to ask a woman who has suffered pregnancy losses.

xprincessxjanetx · 06/01/2022 00:27

I'm sorry that your colleague was so insensitive, not saying that she did it intentionally but I know it's still upsetting. I think I would take the advice of other PP's and remain polite and civil at work and ignore any sulking from her. Just remain professional and don't bring the situation up again x