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Petty falling out with pregnant colleague- what now?

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Jacarandamanda · 05/01/2022 23:57

A colleague and myself have fallen out and I’m not sure what to do from here.

The last few years I have had several miscarriages, most recently early December at 13 weeks. A colleague in my department is pregnant currently.

This is fine, it’s not particularly bothered me and we are perfectly friendly, there’s been nothing bad until now (although I wouldn’t say we are close)

We were having a chat just before Christmas break and she was talking a lot about how she couldn’t believe they were having another baby when they already have a big family, had said definitely no more children and it was such a surprise she was pregnant because her husband had had a vasectomy but she must have been pregnant already without them knowing, all the adaptions to their lives to accommodate another child in the family..

This was ok but a bit difficult to listen to and after about 15 minutes when she directly asked me what I thought about something pregnancy related I politely asked if we could change the subject. I made sure to be polite because I didn’t want to come off as being bitchy (and didn’t want to be!) I just told her I was a little uncomfortable with that question but would love to know about her family xmas plans.

She sort of did a shocked face and said “oh of course” and I thought she had just realised she’d been a bit insensitive and that was it. Maybe she was a little embarrassed but I said I didn’t want her to feel bad at all.

She then told our line manager (in conversation not formally) that I was snappy and out to make her feel bad and being really rude in the conversation. They obviously bought it up with me as a potential issue, but he was actually very understanding when we spoke.

I really don’t think I was rude, maybe she is just being a bit defensive because she is a bit embarrassed? I’m not saying don’t talk about the pregnancy at all but it was really going on and talking about things like birth plans which was just very hard for me - & I only replyed so directly because she asked me something directly. We were talking with another colleague who has also admitted to her that he found it a bit uncomfortable and “over sharey” but she said she understood guys maybe didn’t like talking about that stuff. I don’t want to ask other people at work because I don’t want to look like I’m stirring (or actually stir shit)

Anyway I thought it would blow over but now we are back after Christmas and she is still being quite sour and avoiding me

Should I try and make amends further? I don’t want to be the person who looks like they are being mean to the pregnant lady. But at the same time I don’t think I’m in the wrong…

And yes she knows most of what’s gone on having covered my work for me! We take staggered lunch breaks too so sometimes it’s not easy to avoid her

Help!

OP posts:
LaBellina · 06/01/2022 01:29

They made it out like it just came up in conversation (we have a really good relationship with our LM) but now I wonder if she went to him on purpose

^^ she might have been worried that you mentioned her insensitivity to the LM and possibly decided to throw you under the bus first by reporting you. Doesn’t matter actually what her motive is, she clearly doesn’t care how much she has upset you and tries to make it all about her.

Jacarandamanda · 06/01/2022 01:35

She was 100% shitting herself that you’d make a complaint

This is how it looks to me now

It’s not a big deal I just don’t want everyone to think I’m making a fuss, being jealous or bitter..

I know you shouldn’t care what others think but I do if what they think is not the truth!

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PrincessNutella · 06/01/2022 01:37

I think she was out of line here. Reporting you to the manager. WTF!

Jacarandamanda · 06/01/2022 01:37

I just wouldn’t want that was supposed to say

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RiverSkater · 06/01/2022 01:38

Do not apologise or try to build bridges with this woman, you have boundaries and you put them up to protect yourself. Just be polite but no more. She massively overshared and asked you things that were quite cruel given your history.
She's the one who ought to apologise to you. I hope your manger is on your side on this!

Jacarandamanda · 06/01/2022 01:40

The manager was fine

“I just want to ask about your conversation with Sally at lunchtime…

She said you seemed quite snappy and were rude - this is so unlike you I just want to check everything is ok?”

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LaBellina · 06/01/2022 01:41

So she did try and throw you under the bus.
Nasty.

I would avoid her like the plague.

Jacarandamanda · 06/01/2022 01:44

Yes he was on my side I guess, just said agreed that she was maybe a bit insensitive but probably meant nothing by it

I’ve also had some quite serious health issues and he has been super supportive

I said I was happy to leave it and see how it goes but like I said she’s still being a frostie

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cstaff · 06/01/2022 01:44

You have nothing to apologise for. You did nothing wrong. See was being an insensitive bitch and probably didn't realise it in her excitement but the fact that she went running to management says alot more about her than you.

Jacarandamanda · 06/01/2022 01:48

I think calling her a bitch is a bit harsh

If it were myself I would be thinking I’d get in trouble after taking that comment too far. My guess now is this the case and she is gaslighting to protect her own reputation

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Shamoo · 06/01/2022 01:59

Good grief Op, she sounds like an absolute idiot. I agree with other posters who say remain professional and breezy, but you do not need to apologise. You are being too kind in the way you are viewing her, in my opinion (or perhaps too hard on yourself).

In my experience some pregnant women at work want to go on and on about it, without considering whether there may be other people with fertility or pregnancy issues who don’t want to hear it all. Of course everyone should be able to share a bit, but there has to be limits. Asking you about your birth plan when she knows you have had a miscarriage is absolutely and totally unacceptable. Unacceptable.

I say this as somebody who has had four miscarriages and been on the end of some insensitive behaviour, but nothing that bad. Honestly, unless it was an amazing friend who asked me that as part of an appropriate discussion, I would tell anybody who asked me that to go fuck themselves.

gingerbiscuits · 06/01/2022 07:00

What an unpleasant, insensitive, drama seeking bitch! You are 100% not unreasonable or at fault in any way- you handled what must have been a painful situation very well indeed!

Don't feel you have to make amends at all - there's nothing you need to apologise for. Just try to avoid her, don't get drawn in to anything & stay as amazingly cool & classy as you have been up until now.

XX

Beseen22 · 06/01/2022 07:10

I think i would keep it in the back of my mind that after a minor disagreement (if even that), during a break so not even work time or about a work subject she went straight to management to tell them how rude you were to her. She sounds like the type to watch out for, remember colleagues generally aren't your friends regardless of how much time you spend with them and how much you know about their lives. It has not put her in a good light professionally, she's inappropriate and someone who will quite happily through their colleagues under the bus without due cause. One to watch for sure.

BigMamaFratelli · 06/01/2022 07:13

@Jacarandamanda

I think calling her a bitch is a bit harsh

If it were myself I would be thinking I’d get in trouble after taking that comment too far. My guess now is this the case and she is gaslighting to protect her own reputation

Then you're too nice OP, because that's exactly what she is.

I think you're right about the gaslighting - she's trying to rewrite the situation. Just continue being friendly as usual in the face of her frostiness, it will make her look ridiculous to keep it up. Although be aware she may keep going to your manager about your supposed issue with her.

I'm so sorry for your loss Flowers

DrSbaitso · 06/01/2022 07:19

If she knew your history, that's such a weird thing to do that I'd be inclined to think she was getting off on it. Some people like to rub it in when they have something that they know someone else desperately wants.

I wouldn't do anything. You're not close, a conversation at this stage after the event will just be awkward and probably make things worse and you're not in any trouble at work (nor should you be). Just keep contact to a minimum and don't engage unless you have to.

ManicPixie · 06/01/2022 07:19

Hard to say, maybe you thought you were being polite but an onlooker would say you snapped. Not sure why she had to report it either way, so I’d just not bring it up at all until she leaves.

WhoIsBernieBrown · 06/01/2022 07:21

She should be apologising to you! I can't believe she asked you that. Even without that question, talking about her pregnancy for 15 minutes to someone who has recently had a loss is monumentally insensitive.

Either she knows she was in the wrong so she was trying to protect herself by mentioning it before you do, or she's completely in her own world and has no idea what a dick she is.

I'd give her a wide berth, keep being your usual polite and professional self but don't apologise, you have nothing to apologise for.

WhoIsBernieBrown · 06/01/2022 07:25

And also, I'm sure your manager will be 100% on your side here. He wouldn't have been able to say 'yeah she's been a total arsehole' but I bet that was what he was thinking. He'll be able to see right through her bs.

AiryFairyLights · 06/01/2022 07:27

I don’t think she was well meaning OR just a slip - she should NEVER have asked you something like that knowingly what you’ve been through!
I’ve suffered miscarriage’s years ago and if anyone had said that to me I would’ve been devastated!
Ignore her sulking and keep your head held high and I wish you the very very best in your ttc OP x

DrSbaitso · 06/01/2022 07:27

@Jacarandamanda

Yes he was on my side I guess, just said agreed that she was maybe a bit insensitive but probably meant nothing by it

I’ve also had some quite serious health issues and he has been super supportive

I said I was happy to leave it and see how it goes but like I said she’s still being a frostie

Let her be frosty. She's an arsehole, who cares? Just act like you don't even notice. She's angling for a reaction, any reaction. Don't give her what she wants.
MrsLargeEmbodied · 06/01/2022 07:36

she sounds childish, she feels bad i think

kookievee · 06/01/2022 07:36

Sorry for your loss.

Why are you tiptoeing around her though? You say you don't want to be the one to upset the pregnant lady- well she's pregnant not terminally ill and she's been an overreacting insensitive bitch. She should be apologising to you.

If she doesn't see that then she's massively in the wrong,

I disagree that you're the unreasonable one. If she knows what you've been through and she is asking you pregnancy questions then how dare she be the one upset?

I'd either ignore her or confront her!

pussycatunpickingcrossesagain · 06/01/2022 07:39

Flowers sorry for your loss.
If she's being frosty with you - excellent! Hopefully you won't have much interaction with her for a while.

How she didn't see that she was being inappropriate and insensitive I'll never know.

Wombat43 · 06/01/2022 07:44

You sound utterly lovely. Sadly, not everyone is as nice.

Watch your back.

KiloWhat · 06/01/2022 07:46

If anything you should be complaining to your manager about her! Asking you about your birth plan! What an abhorrent thing to do.

Sounds like you're handling it well and I'm sorry for your loss Flowers

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