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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to feel weird about my neighbour's comments about my son?

425 replies

pizzaallday · 18/12/2021 10:45

Hello,

I have a 16 month old and our neighbours are a married couple in their fifties.

They have three children, 26,28 and 32 and no grandchildren yet.

Ever since my son arrived, they have been doting over him.

Inviting him over, giving him food, playing with him.

We never leave him alone with them, either one of us or both of us is with him when he's invited over.

On the one hand I have absolutely no problem with them being so close to my son. The husband suffers from depression and doesn't work anymore and the wife has to work two jobs. They don't have it easy so I can understand how a toddler can bring light and joy to someone's life.

Let's call this couple Mr and Mrs Smith and my son is called Josh (names changed).

There are just some comments Mr Smith makes occasionally that I find cringeworthy.

For example:

  • He said when he was playing with him: "Oh Josh, I want to go to bed with you"
  • They knocked on our door in the evening and he said "Josh, I want to spend all night with you"
  • Last time we were at their house Mr Smith was playing with Josh. He then made a sawing motion at his ear and said: "I want to cut off your ear and make bacon off it".
  • The other day my husband left the house in the evening, because he had to go somewhere. Mr Smith was outside his house and he asked my husband: "Are you going to pick up Josh? (we send him to a childminder)" "I will come with you!"
  • Usually I pick him up from the childminder in the evening. When I arrive back home, Mr Smith usually sits in his car, because he has to pick up his wife from work. When he sees Josh, he either pulls his window down to shout his name or comes out to interact with him
  • Mr Smith has an alcohol problem as well. He drinks every evening, usually whiskey. In summer, when it was still warm at night, we often sat in our living room and heard Mr Smith singing in in the garden. It was obvious he was drunk and he was singing my son's name 😳 That has stopped now, either because it's too cold outside or perhaps because his wife asked him to drink less.

His wife always is very embarrassed when her husband makes those comments to my son and says "He doesn't mean it".

I know the comments are made in a certain context and I don't think Mr Smith is a pedophile.

Still, they give me a bad feeling and I feel like he is crossing boundaries he shouldn't.

It's very hard for me to know whether I am being unreasonable or not.

On the one hand they are a lovely couple with lovely children and are nice neighbours that we get on well with.

On the other hand his comments give me the creeps.

AIBU to feel this way?

OP posts:
Haveyoubrushedyourteethtoday · 18/12/2021 10:47

Not at all unreasonable.

musicalfrog · 18/12/2021 10:49

I wonder how much your house is worth? Might be an idea to check that out OP.

bert3400 · 18/12/2021 10:51

They are very weird comments, I would be completely creeped out by them too.

thethoughtfox · 18/12/2021 10:52

Get them. The fuck. Away from your child.

ThesecondLEM · 18/12/2021 10:53

He is overstepping and they are weird comments. Although I think the bacon one is quite cute.

Like you say, they are decent neighbours so maintain a pite yet distanced relationship. Don't encourage him and when Josh is less cute he'll probably get bored

ThesecondLEM · 18/12/2021 10:54

Pite?? Polite

Charley50 · 18/12/2021 10:54

Creepy. My neighbours partner was a keen photographer; took some photos of my then small son, with me there of course.
Then immediately escalated to an offer to take him alone to the cinema! WTF. Kept well out of their way after that.

Wintersnuggles10 · 18/12/2021 10:55

I'd move

Santahatesbraisedcabbage · 18/12/2021 10:55

Covid is your friend here.... Stay safe. Keep the fuck away.

Xmassprout · 18/12/2021 10:56

Trust your gut, keep your distance

RedpepperRisotto · 18/12/2021 10:58

You know in your gut something is off. The drinking alone is good enough reason to steer well clear of this guy, at the very least.

Always always always trust yourself OP xx

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 18/12/2021 10:58

His comments give you the creeps because they are fucking creepy.

Do not maintain a friendship with these people - it will become much more challenging when the little one is old enough to go places without you or dh

pilates · 18/12/2021 11:00

Yes I can understand how unnerving it must be for you.

I would try and distance yourself and DS from him, easier to do in the winter. Just a polite hello and move on quickly.

Chachasha · 18/12/2021 11:01

I know it sounds over the top but I would think about moving. I cannot see how these comments aren't massively worrying.

MadeForThis · 18/12/2021 11:01

He wants to take your son to bed??

More than creepy. Keep your some away.

Sounds more like grooming.

Thwackit · 18/12/2021 11:04

This is WEIRD. I’d say something directly to them when they mention beds and ears! ‘That’s a very odd comment. Why say that?’

abigailsnan · 18/12/2021 11:04

This is just not normal behaviour keep away or seriously consider moving if you can.Get it stopped now before its too late.

pizzaallday · 18/12/2021 11:05

Interesting to see people's reactions so far.

Josh is in no immediate danger as we would never leave him alone with the neighbours.

It's very much a "grey situation".

When he made the comment "I want to go to bed with you" I said to my husband later: he probably meant: "You're so cute, I want to cuddle you".

I wonder if we are just making excuses for him?

I think in general it's highly inappropriate for a man in his fifties to say that to a 16 month old, no matter how it is meant 🙄

OP posts:
TheYearOfSmallThings · 18/12/2021 11:05

I'm sure he's not a child molester, but he is behaving very oddly (probably due to the alcoholism) and it is not a good idea to have him around your DC. By bringing them together you are normalising the odd behaviour in your DC's eyes, and you may have to explain to the wife why you don't want to do this.

Having said that, I remember lots of slightly drunk old men making jokes like the one about sawing off my ears for bacon, but that was Ireland in the 1980s. It wouldn't do now.

PickElaine · 18/12/2021 11:07

You don't owe these neighbours the joy that your son might give them.

AdviceOnLife · 18/12/2021 11:11

@pizzaallday

Interesting to see people's reactions so far.

Josh is in no immediate danger as we would never leave him alone with the neighbours.

It's very much a "grey situation".

When he made the comment "I want to go to bed with you" I said to my husband later: he probably meant: "You're so cute, I want to cuddle you".

I wonder if we are just making excuses for him?

I think in general it's highly inappropriate for a man in his fifties to say that to a 16 month old, no matter how it is meant 🙄

It's not so much about Josh being safe because you are always there because I'm sure he is very safe when you are there. For me its more by being close/friendly with the neighbour, you are setting the boundary for josh that Mr Smith is a trustworthy adult when actually you are not so sure if he is or not. If you left Josh unattended for one second/ got lost he would trust Mr Smith to chat/ play/ go for a walk because he is a trusted adult of his. I'd definitely pull back a lot. Better safe than sorry.
PickElaine · 18/12/2021 11:12

Josh is in no immediate danger as we would never leave him alone with the neighbours.
Sure, because he's very little. That's not going to be as easy in a couple of years when this bloke suggests Josh walks up to the post box with him getting a gingerbread man on the way home and you are in the middle of hanging the washing on the line. What are you going to say to Josh?

"No, mammy is busy and you can't be alone with Mr Smith so you can't go."

musicalfrog · 18/12/2021 11:12

He may not be in immediate danger now but as his comprehension improves he will be hearing these comments and may think it's normal. This could endanger him in the future.

5128gap · 18/12/2021 11:15

I wouldn't want to inflict an alcoholic who makes 'unconventional' comments on my child. At 16 months he won't be registering it, but as he gets older it could well be quite disturbing for him. Children get very uncomfortable around adults who behave in odd ways, make comments they don't know how to respond to, and are unpredictable due to alcohol. Its not fair to keep this man in your child's life.

Ponoka7 · 18/12/2021 11:18

@TheYearOfSmallThings

"I'm sure he's not a child molester"

Offer your services to the police and SS. They normally need an investigation and often still get it wrong. Yet you can say that after one post online, amazing.