AIBU to ask if Boris was having a manic episode in his peppa pig speech today?

[Talkwhilstyouwalk]

Just that really

I have a loved one who has bipolar disorder and to me, this looked very much like a manic episode. If so, I hope he gets the help he needs.

They aren’t ready for him to go yet but do want him to appoint some ‘grown ups’ to manage Downing Street and stop the fuck ups. But he’s never had the sense to appoint and listen to decent advisors.

The benches are a bit more crowded behind Johnson than recently. He's obviously been trying to rally support.

He wasn't having a mad moment as much as trying to distract people from a real headline - privatisation of the NHS now voted through in parliament. But the BBC didn't even feature it.

Great.... Johnson just mouthed 'fuck off' to Starmer.

No mental illness, that’s just the real him when he doesn’t have someone else telling him what to say. He’s an idiot.

Imagine if this was a female PM that did this! She’s be long gone.
Enough is enough - he needs to go . He’s not at all well i don’t think

He has committed to the buffoon image since well before he was Mayor - if he spotted a camera, he would ruffle his hair and button his cuff up incorrectly. A friend who works in whitehall witnessed it again and again .This is what he does and he he has it down to a fine art. The weird speech in-FLEC-tions, the gorilla posture, all of it is part of the image of barely-controlled chaos that's meant to make you think he's an idiot.

If you think that awful CBI speech it was accidental, or he's feeling run-down or ill, or he was unprepared... beware of people selling bridges.

Well he could have been taking the P out of the CBI 😄

Just heard a bit of PMQ

Sounded rowdy. He probably has more support back due to it all. I’ve heard many strongly defending in last couple of days

I’ve heard many strongly defending in last couple of days

How were they defending him? Not sure how any rational person could excuse his behaviour.

@CorrBlimeyGG

I’ve heard many strongly defending in last couple of days

How were they defending him? Not sure how any rational person could excuse his behaviour.

You’d have to listen - just general backing him from various MPs. I see pp about letter of no confidence but some are in the other direction.

And just hearing that PMQ

So the 'many' you're referring to are his own MPs, that have been threatened with having constituency funding withdrawn if they don't toe the line? Good to know.

@CorrBlimeyGG

So the 'many' you're referring to are his own MPs, that have been threatened with having constituency funding withdrawn if they don't toe the line? Good to know.

Sure I didn’t say otherwise so not sure why the snark. As usual though!

Yes his colleagues / MPs. But it counters some of the Letters of No Confidence mentioned below and also PMQ was fairly rowdy

I find the rebound interesting so I posted about it.

Tory whip was reported to have sent text messages pleading with MP's to turn up to PMQ's today's.

@AndARiverBeneathYourFeet

He has committed to the buffoon image since well before he was Mayor - if he spotted a camera, he would ruffle his hair and button his cuff up incorrectly. A friend who works in whitehall witnessed it again and again .This is what he does and he he has it down to a fine art. The weird speech in-FLEC-tions, the gorilla posture, all of it is part of the image of barely-controlled chaos that's meant to make you think he's an idiot.

If you think that awful CBI speech it was accidental, or he's feeling run-down or ill, or he was unprepared... beware of people selling bridges.

Yes! I knew someone that shadowed him for two weeks and this is how he described him too. Also vile to his staff.

My thinking is this was strategic. What aren't we talking about?

Yes, that is the big question? What is that we do not know about?
Every turn like this I lose a bit more of faith I did not even know I have.

@AndARiverBeneathYourFeet

He has committed to the buffoon image since well before he was Mayor - if he spotted a camera, he would ruffle his hair and button his cuff up incorrectly. A friend who works in whitehall witnessed it again and again .This is what he does and he he has it down to a fine art. The weird speech in-FLEC-tions, the gorilla posture, all of it is part of the image of barely-controlled chaos that's meant to make you think he's an idiot.

If you think that awful CBI speech it was accidental, or he's feeling run-down or ill, or he was unprepared... beware of people selling bridges.

@AndARiverBeneathYourFeet - totally this.

Read the full article for the denouement. Johnson's entire public persona is a carefully constructed charade.

reaction.life/jeremy-vine-my-boris-story/

@MushMonster

Yes, that is the big question? What is that we do not know about? Every turn like this I lose a bit more of faith I did not even know I have.

Me too @MushMonster. To the point of reminscing almost fondly about the Major years. Major may have been a lot of things, but he had a degree of probity & belief in public service.

Remember the good old days when even MP's, let alone Ministers, had to resign when caught taking bribes or cheating on their wives? Even Thatcher - community-wrecking, monetarism cult-obsessive that she was, expected a certain standard of contact & adherence to a concept of public duty.

This lot are so entrenched in their parliamentary majority that their corruption runs almost unbounded.

To the point of reminscing almost fondly about the Major years. Major may have been a lot of things, but he had a degree of probity & belief in public service

Yes I agree. And John Major was a nice man. I say this because we met him whilst on holiday in Cornwall, we just happened to be where he was... and my DD about 6 at the time offered him a bite of her cornish pasty, and he bent down and told her it looked delicious and he was going to go and buy one himself!

I can believe it @Roussette.

Chatting with a mate recently over much wine, we both realised how "decent" politicians like Major now seem by comparison with the sheer venality & arrant corruption on display. And I despised the man's policies, at the time.

"certain standard of contact" - sorry should read CONDUCT

It's always sad when you see someone crumbling because they have been over promoted snd aren't up to the job.

I agree Charging

I miss the likes of Kenneth Clarke and John Major... who'd have thought...

*Chatting with a mate recently over much wine, we both realised how "decent" politicians like Major
I'm glad you put decent in inverted commas!
John Major banging on about Back to basics and family values while he was banging Edwina Curry for four years! yeah, that's decent!

Don't want to be that killjoy in the room, but can we cool it with the "manic episode" wording?

I can't tell if it's supposed to be a joke or an armchair diagnosis, but either way, it's not appropriate.

My armchair diagnosis is that BJ's just showing symptoms of being clueless about the subject matter and bad at improv.