AIBU that world leaders can come together to discuss plastic as it kills dolphins but a 9 year old girl married to a 55 year old man goes unchallenged!

[Bonsaibreaker]

The title says it all.

Yes it's in the fail and in my rage I cannot work out how to copy the link.

Please tell me I'm wrong and missread the story?

Dyne of course I started this thread in good faith. What would be my reasonings not to?

I am sorry if my upset and frustration does not meet your standards of a sensible thread may I suggest you don't bother engaging with me any further.

You’ve repeatedly made statements you can’t back up

Ok Jassy which statements?
I will curb my screaming and my looniness in order to address these statements I have made and not backed up.

Hi OP

Your idea about a worldwide summit about stopping violence against women and girls is a great one. Why not? (Not a rhetorical question).

I think the frustration for those of us committed on climate change is that taking action is really really hard. It’s not the easy dolphin/straw stuff that you are thinking about.

@Dyrne

OP in your ridiculous rage against “dolphins” you’ve neglected one crucial point.

World leaders did, in fact, get together to discuss violence against women and girls very recently; and form plans to tackle it.

At the G7 summit earlier this year they discussed it and commissioned a report to lay out what needs to be done. The report was literally published 6 days ago: www.g7uk.org/g7-advisory-council-sets-out-detailed-vision-for-gender-equality/

Granted, it’s only recent; but I’d have thought that since you were so passionate about the subject you’d be up to date (or have at least taken 5 seconds to Google the phrase “summit for violence against women and girls” which brings the G7 up on the first page).

Or do you just want to pointlessly rant rather than actually engage with any high level discussion that’s going on? I’m assuming you’re now happy you can write to your MP constructively urging them to support the outcomes of the report and challenge them to action them? Or would you rather continue to froth on the Internet and do fuck all?

Well said!

I will curb my screaming and my looniness in order to address these statements I have made and not backed up.

I have accused you of neither.

You’ve suggested an awful lot of things. Core to the thread is what you want a leaders’ meeting to achieve. As others have pointed out, this has been an issue at leaders summits recently; I’ve pointed out there have been numerous global summits over the years and specific focus and UNGA. I agree these summits haven’t effected enough change; but I’m sceptical they’re the right forum. So what do you think the outputs of this leaders meeting should be, to prevent it being a pointless talking shop?

You’ve suggested military intervention in countries where policies prevent the full participation of women. You haven’t answered how fair this should extend - eg to Saudi? - how you’d ensure the legality of military intervention, or how it would actually improve things long term.

You’ve suggested countries like the US and the UK should be ‘taken in hand’ for their own (poor) records on violence against women and girls. You haven’t said how, or by whom.

You’ve said that climate change won’t directly affect the times in office of any world leaders currently in Glasgow, but you haven’t provided any evidence why you think all those - including those leaders from poor countries - who say that this is already happening are incorrect.

I have found your continued misrepresentation of what a number of posters have said to be both frustrating and disingenuous.

To do you justice, when pressed you did say that military intervention was your preferred solution to countries with repressive policies, so I wasn’t quite fair in saying your posts were devoid of detail. (It’s light on the detail of the auspices of those interventions, what they would do, the exit strategy and how they would work better than other military interventions in the past for women and girls.)

@sashh 😯🥺 I didn't know that. Goes to show everyone pointing fingers at the "second and third worlds", while the so-called "first world" countries are doing the same and in some cases, worse.

@LearningMyLesson shocking isn't it.

Even some of the states with a legal minimum age have ridiculously low ages, I think the lowest is 12 for a girl (males are obviously protected by the minimum age being usually 2 years older).

I've known about it for quite a while but I was impressed that designated survivor highlighted it a year or two ago.

With some communities it is made worse by the expectations of the culture eg Orthodox Jewish communities which mean the young bride has no access to contraception or money.

Now I'm not making an anti semitic comment, it is the minority even within the Orthodox communities. New York only changed the law this year, last year a 14 year old could marry.

I do think there is an air of racism, and anti muslim feeling in the reporting.

That's very interesting information, thanks @sashh

I started Designated Survivor but stopped after a few episodes. You've reminded me to try and watch it again.

@Bonsaibreaker

The title says it all.

Yes it's in the fail and in my rage I cannot work out how to copy the link.

Please tell me I'm wrong and missread the story?

You know we can care about more than one thing at once?

As for your facetious dismissal of humanity threatening climate change as plastic killing dolphins....are you really this ignorant uninformed?

I agree that violence against women and girls has never been a global priority.

But it would be worth doing some reading about equality and the effects of climate change. The effects of climate change won’t be felt as badly - in fact I should say aren’t being felt as badly because it’s happening now - by the people in the developed world who are causing it compared to people in the developing world who aren’t.

And marginalised groups in the developing world - especially women and girls - will feel/are feeling the effects worst of all. Also, girls’ education and population levels are inextricably linked.

Climate change is very much a women’s issue.

I think you will unfortunately find this happens a lot closer than Afghanistan.

Sorry @sashh, I don't know if my last comment seemed like a brush off. I didn't mean it to be, I was just speechless.

It's awful what's still happening to young girls, and in the US too. That information was very heavy indeed. Thanks for posting it. I'll be reading further on it.

@LearningMyLesson it didn't wound like a brush off.

When you look into it things can get very complicated eg child immigrants gain status if they are married so it can be something a family does to gain citizenship with no sexual activity involved.

On the other end of the scale planned parenthood see it as a 'solution' to teenage pregnancy.

It varies a lot, it's an interesting but hard thing to look into.

@Kanaloa very good post.

Thank you. @sashh. I'm learning a lot.

Someone might have already posted this but there was a massive UK-hosted global summit on this subject (sexual violence and girls /women) in 2014, which in global summit terms is not that long ago...
(www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26349198)
A quick Google shows there are other global meetings taking place on it this year. This is a subject that gets attention! It isn't getting any this WEEK, this week they're focusing on climate change. As previous posters have explained, that will mostly affect women in developing countries heavily as well.

Plus having summits doesn't automatically solve problems, obviously. But if you're just asking, do world leaders have summits about sexual violence and rape? Yes they do.

I'm with you OP ! Completely frustrated by these comments. Afghanistan situation isn't getting attention , apart from some articles here and there. It was the biggest scandal of out lifetime and no one cares or has been held accountable. It wasnt an accident what happened. You don't make mistakes like leave billions of dollars worth of equipment behind. Those poor poor people . OP is trying to highlight this and some of you only care about trying to " win" the argument.

Of course female lives matter. Approx 410'000 people are murdered every year across the world. 66,000 are female. The other nearly 350,000 are men.

All this pales into nothing when we have no resources left to pull from the planet.

Well, to be entirely blunt one child marrying a dirty old man isn’t going to have particularly far reaching consequences for the planet. The same cannot be said for global warming.

@turnthebiglightoff

Of course female lives matter. Approx 410'000 people are murdered every year across the world. 66,000 are female. The other nearly 350,000 are men.

All this pales into nothing when we have no resources left to pull from the planet.

And which sex is doing the killing?

Do you have a source for these claims?

Here's a WHO link that shows the violence against women and girls, how half of murdered women are killed by a partner, how many girls are raped and assaulted.

What percentage of murdered men do you think are killed by their female partner?

@KayKayWat

Well, to be entirely blunt one child marrying a dirty old man isn’t going to have particularly far reaching consequences for the planet. The same cannot be said for global warming.

Unfortunately the problem is huge. It is not one person . It is a pandemic. BTW one person should be enough for some accountability about Afghanistan

What percentage of murdered men do you think are killed by their female partner?

I doubt the murdered person cares who killed them, so really this is whataboutery. What matters is that they were killed in the first place.

Im with you OP,
Hope you are still reading.
I think ppl on here have been horrible to you. I guess some of them only care about what the media spoon feeds them every day, like good little sheep they lap it up and it is obviously the most important thing in the world if the media says so! Then you OP come along and you dare to think outside the box! and they feel caught out or something.