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PuzzlingPieces · 27/10/2021 15:01

Have toyed with posting this but here goes.

Recently, it has emerged that my DH has been accused of going through the underwear of a close female relative on two separate occasions when alone in their house. I knew absolutely nothing of this until family members accused DH directly of having a fetish. It has all come out since and I am devastated.

Context - the female family member is very particular about her belongings and refers to herself as OCD. The situation was presented to me as the female family member noticed on a recent visit after we had popped out for few hours leaving DH behind - that her underwear had moved. She found this odd but thought it could have been me or DC so tried to put out of mind.

On a further occasion a few weeks later the same thing happened - this time of an evening when DC in bed and everyone else out. She was obviously "looking" for this and feeling suspicious by this point.

In her mind there is/was no doubt that the belongings have moved as she is so particular. She doesn't leave her stuff around, ever, and the drawers are on the far side of the bedroom.

DH tells me that on first occasion, toddler age DC appeared with item earlier in day and he panicked, put it aside and then replaced it in the drawer when everyone was out so as not to look weird or draw attention to it.

On second occasion, he found a bra on the landing under our bedding (I know our bedding was on the landing) and panicked about this looking terrible especially after the first misunderstanding, so went to return it. Upon doing so he noticed just how organised the drawer was (hadn't done so on the first occasion due to speed) and panicked further so tried to "make" things look neat.

Family member referred to her drawer as a "total mess" after second occasion. Refutes the idea that DC could have obtained the item because the "nature" of the underwear was that it was at the back of the drawer not for day to day wear and child could not reach.

The landing where the bedding was is near to the laundry basket but I am told that the family member knows where her belongings are at all times (especially this one) and she is absolutely adamant it was removed from her drawer.

Family accused husband of the worst without explaining anything to me first. DH at first vehemently denied anything before later confessing that this was down to misunderstandings and gross oversteps of privacy, but not anything deviant as they suspect.

Family have now left me to it and say they will support my decision. I honestly don't know what to do or think. I am in total and utter shock. No previous indication of any inappropriate behaviour or fetish/sexual issues albeit my DH is someone that can have the odd social "clanger" so to speak.

We are happily married and I love my husband. I also love my family and don't think they have motive to lie and just want to protect me. They are willing to draw a line if I ask for that (easier said than done given how this was all explosively accused but that's a secondary issue until I can get this rationalised in my head!).

What would you believe / do?

And secondly, would you feel it reasonable to request a lie detector test in these circumstances? If a misunderstanding, very prepared to move on although very let down and devastated nonetheless. If the motive is something else (even just nosiness rather than anything more dreadful), what should I do? Appreciate in a marriage this should never be needed but I feel lost.

I want the truth even jf it's worst case scenario. My worst fear is that even if I choose to believe whatever I do, and move on (with help and counselling or whatever that may take) this may always niggle at me. It would also niggle at me if I left my husband, too. Totally lost.

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NugsNotDrugs · 27/10/2021 15:03

Goodness, what a mess!
Do you believe your Dh?

Freshair87 · 27/10/2021 15:08

Sorry OP I wouldn't believe your DH in this situation, too much of a coincidence twice he has been on his own something has happened with underwear, and if the first was true about DC having the underwear why would you need to hide that and originally lie about it, surely it would be a funny story even if told just to you and not family "oh you'll never believe it DC came down with one of family members thongs in their hand"
Up to you if you can move on from it though, I would feel my DH was a bit of a creep but would be more annoyed about the lying

Starlight86 · 27/10/2021 15:09

God you really are between a rock and a hard place arent you.

Your family sound very supportive in that they are willing to support your decision.

Either way i fear there is no right answer to this one and you literally need to go with your heart (as cheesy as it sounds)

I dont think lie detectors are accurate so would give that a miss.

Lalastepmum · 27/10/2021 15:10

I wonder if the first occasion is true and the curiosity got the better of him on the second.
Follow your gut.

Aquamarine1029 · 27/10/2021 15:11

I'm very sorry, but your husband is not who you think he is. His "explanations" are laughable, and I highly doubt your relative would lie about something so serious and so damaging to the entire family.

HikingforScenery · 27/10/2021 15:13

I’m sorry I don’t get this.
What if your being accused of exactly? He’s stolen your family member’s underwear and kept it ? What purpose would this serve?

PuzzlingPieces · 27/10/2021 15:17

Accused of looking at/through it and they feared due to a "fetish".

It could equally not be "fetish" but it was looked at/moved.

The query i have is over motive - panicked social faux pas and invasion of privacy, or something else?

For what it is worth it is also worth stating that upon confronting my DH, family tell me he remained calm and the overwhelming impression they came away with was that he cares about me and DC deeply.

They don't believe him though but are prepared to move on if I will.

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PuzzlingPieces · 27/10/2021 15:18

And no not stealing and keeping - just looking at (for whatever purpose) and putting back (incorrectly!) hence alerting them to fact it had been rummaged through.

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HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 27/10/2021 15:18

How would he even know where her underwear was kept?

dworky · 27/10/2021 15:19

@HikingforScenery

I’m sorry I don’t get this. What if your being accused of exactly? He’s stolen your family member’s underwear and kept it ? What purpose would this serve?
You have a LOT to learn Grin
Shasha17 · 27/10/2021 15:20

Lie detector tests are notoriously unreliable so I'd rule that one out.

dworky · 27/10/2021 15:20

@HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend

How would he even know where her underwear was kept?
Most underwear drawers are obvious. Dodgy workmen who have form for this find them very easily!
PuzzlingPieces · 27/10/2021 15:20

@HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend

How would he even know where her underwear was kept?
Well he had to establish this in order to put it back (and/or remove it in the first place). It's nowhere weird, second drawer in a chest of drawers in the side of the bedroom not near door.
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Theuniverseandeverything · 27/10/2021 15:20

Sorry I wouldn’t believe him.

He has admitted twice he went in a relative’s underwear drawer. You don’t need a lie detector for that.

Carolinechanning · 27/10/2021 15:22

How many other times has he been left alone at the relatives house?

SantasLittleHoHoHo · 27/10/2021 15:25

This is the sort of mess I can imagine I'd get into, so much anxiety around doing the right thing! I can totally believe he wouldn't have wanted to embarrass the person by saying "oh my dc was walking around with your thong" to the whole family, I'd also have attempted to put it back.

The second time is a strange coincidence, but to be fair after the first issue id be extra careful and panic too! I think it's down to whether you believe him or not.

Who is the female relative? Is it a step daughter? Or a grandma? Why was your DH alone in a house with their underwear about?

PuzzlingPieces · 27/10/2021 15:25

@Carolinechanning

How many other times has he been left alone at the relatives house?
Hard to say as it never really occured to me but probably a handful.

We also lived with them for a few weeks a number of years ago. Can't recall if he was alone at that point but it's not improbable.

It is the first times we have been there with DC of walking/exploratory age say.

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FrenchieFromGrease · 27/10/2021 15:25

Lie detectors are unreliable anyway so don't bother with that.

Your DHs explanations are ridiculous. There is no reason he should ever be going through your relatives underwear. All this 'I accidentally found a bra and had to mess up the whole drawer to put it back in'. No. Just no. It's laughable.

I couldn't stay with a man who rifled through my relative's underwear. Do you have daughters? How could you ever trust him?

SirGawain · 27/10/2021 15:31

@HikingforScenery

I’m sorry I don’t get this. What if your being accused of exactly? He’s stolen your family member’s underwear and kept it ? What purpose would this serve?
It's not the value of the underwear that is at issue. If her DH has been handling or trying on his relatives clothes it suggests that he has sexual issues which go beyond his marriage. I think that this happening twice sound rater more than a coincidence.
TheChip · 27/10/2021 15:31

He has admitted as much as he could without giving the full truth. He has admitted that it was him in the drawers, with stupid reasons behind why.
The truth is right there, he is just trying to deny it still.

The question is, where do you want to go from here?
Do you think you can move past it as just a fetish?

Moonface123 · 27/10/2021 15:33

I can't help but feel something is off.
Why couldn't he just have said DC had got something out of drawer ?
The second explanation is not plausible, why couldn't he have just left the bra where he found it?
I can tell by your post you are not convinced, this must be a difficult situation for you, l am glad your family are being supportive.

Starcaller · 27/10/2021 15:35

The first instance is on the verge of believable, although I still think weird and unlikely. Is toddler often left unsupervised to wander through rooms and go through drawers in someone else's house? And seems unlikely they would select one item and leave with it and leave everything else reasonably intact? Surely they'd pull stuff out and make much more of a mess than carefully remove one item from the back?

The second pushes it too far. Why didn't he just leave the bra where it was under the bedding? Or just scoop everything up and stick it in the laundry basket? The putting it back in the drawer is very odd, especially if he was conscious enough to know it was beginning to look weird after the first time. Also then 'panicking and tidying'. He was putting a bra in – how much of a mess could he have made in the first place? It sounds more to be like he had a rummage about and that's what made a mess.

I think he is panicking alright, but because he's been rumbled. It's very bizarre.

HollowTalk · 27/10/2021 15:35

Sorry but I wouldn't believe a word he said.

Aquamarine1029 · 27/10/2021 15:37

His explanations are a slap in the face, really. They are so absurd that I'd be insulted that he would actually expect me to believe him.

Cas112 · 27/10/2021 15:49

Go with your gut, its usually right.