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Suspicious behaviour

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PuzzlingPieces · 27/10/2021 15:01

Have toyed with posting this but here goes.

Recently, it has emerged that my DH has been accused of going through the underwear of a close female relative on two separate occasions when alone in their house. I knew absolutely nothing of this until family members accused DH directly of having a fetish. It has all come out since and I am devastated.

Context - the female family member is very particular about her belongings and refers to herself as OCD. The situation was presented to me as the female family member noticed on a recent visit after we had popped out for few hours leaving DH behind - that her underwear had moved. She found this odd but thought it could have been me or DC so tried to put out of mind.

On a further occasion a few weeks later the same thing happened - this time of an evening when DC in bed and everyone else out. She was obviously "looking" for this and feeling suspicious by this point.

In her mind there is/was no doubt that the belongings have moved as she is so particular. She doesn't leave her stuff around, ever, and the drawers are on the far side of the bedroom.

DH tells me that on first occasion, toddler age DC appeared with item earlier in day and he panicked, put it aside and then replaced it in the drawer when everyone was out so as not to look weird or draw attention to it.

On second occasion, he found a bra on the landing under our bedding (I know our bedding was on the landing) and panicked about this looking terrible especially after the first misunderstanding, so went to return it. Upon doing so he noticed just how organised the drawer was (hadn't done so on the first occasion due to speed) and panicked further so tried to "make" things look neat.

Family member referred to her drawer as a "total mess" after second occasion. Refutes the idea that DC could have obtained the item because the "nature" of the underwear was that it was at the back of the drawer not for day to day wear and child could not reach.

The landing where the bedding was is near to the laundry basket but I am told that the family member knows where her belongings are at all times (especially this one) and she is absolutely adamant it was removed from her drawer.

Family accused husband of the worst without explaining anything to me first. DH at first vehemently denied anything before later confessing that this was down to misunderstandings and gross oversteps of privacy, but not anything deviant as they suspect.

Family have now left me to it and say they will support my decision. I honestly don't know what to do or think. I am in total and utter shock. No previous indication of any inappropriate behaviour or fetish/sexual issues albeit my DH is someone that can have the odd social "clanger" so to speak.

We are happily married and I love my husband. I also love my family and don't think they have motive to lie and just want to protect me. They are willing to draw a line if I ask for that (easier said than done given how this was all explosively accused but that's a secondary issue until I can get this rationalised in my head!).

What would you believe / do?

And secondly, would you feel it reasonable to request a lie detector test in these circumstances? If a misunderstanding, very prepared to move on although very let down and devastated nonetheless. If the motive is something else (even just nosiness rather than anything more dreadful), what should I do? Appreciate in a marriage this should never be needed but I feel lost.

I want the truth even jf it's worst case scenario. My worst fear is that even if I choose to believe whatever I do, and move on (with help and counselling or whatever that may take) this may always niggle at me. It would also niggle at me if I left my husband, too. Totally lost.

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Theuniverseandeverything · 27/10/2021 15:50

You know he did it, you don’t know why.

If it was my husband, I’d be mortified and think he was very weird.

BrilliantBetty · 27/10/2021 15:55

His excuses are shit and not believable.
Twice he went in this lady's (please say it's a lady and not a teenage girl) underwear drawer. Really? How many times have you accidentally had a situation happen where you've needed to touch an in law or anyone elses pants. Twice?

Yeah right.

Trust your relative. Why would they lie. He would have reason to lie wouldn't he, because he has been sussed for being a perv.

BrilliantBetty · 27/10/2021 15:56

Additionally if you did find someone's pants or bra lying abound in the house, you'd just leave it. Not return to wardrobe

Motnight · 27/10/2021 15:57

He has told you the truth - at least twice he went into your female relative's underwear drawers. The reasons why that he has given you are laughable, Op.

Happylittlethoughts · 27/10/2021 15:58

Well, since you ask ... I absolutely don't believe him. His excuses for being in her underwear drawer TWICE are laughable.
Honestly I think only the desire to not have this explode your life,is making you want to believe him.
I couldn't live a man perving on a relatives knickers .. ffs

Bellringer · 27/10/2021 16:02

He needs to come clean, counselling maybe? Can you live with someone exploring their kinks? It may not make him a bad person.

Dillydollydingdong · 27/10/2021 16:02

Its a lot of fuss about nothing, isn't it? I think fetishists like used underwear, not clean ones. Has he cheated?(no). Did he steal something? (no). Has he killed anyone? (no). Let's get this in proportion eh? Maybe offer to take him out and buy him some scanties?

jessycake · 27/10/2021 16:03

I think he probably did it , the excuses seem a bit unlikely .

knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 16:09

@HikingforScenery

I’m sorry I don’t get this. What if your being accused of exactly? He’s stolen your family member’s underwear and kept it ? What purpose would this serve?
Oh please. Grin Wink
Crunchymum · 27/10/2021 16:09

Where did toddler DC get the underwear from? The drawer? Could they even reach that drawer?

Terfydactyl · 27/10/2021 16:11

@Dillydollydingdong

Its a lot of fuss about nothing, isn't it? I think fetishists like used underwear, not clean ones. Has he cheated?(no). Did he steal something? (no). Has he killed anyone? (no). Let's get this in proportion eh? Maybe offer to take him out and buy him some scanties?
Let him buy his own and then leave him. Its pretty obvious hes got a fetish, this wont be the first two times hes done it.
Yarboosucks · 27/10/2021 16:13

How old is the female relative? If she is 30-50 that is a very different scenario to 15-18 or even 70-90....

knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 16:13

@Dillydollydingdong

Its a lot of fuss about nothing, isn't it? I think fetishists like used underwear, not clean ones. Has he cheated?(no). Did he steal something? (no). Has he killed anyone? (no). Let's get this in proportion eh? Maybe offer to take him out and buy him some scanties?
It's a huge invasion of privacy. The op hasn't said who this relative is. They could be young and vulnerable or old like me. Either way it's totally unacceptable and it's not *making a fuss about nothing" fgs.
knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 16:14

@Yarboosucks

How old is the female relative? If she is 30-50 that is a very different scenario to 15-18 or even 70-90....
Why?
asteroommatus · 27/10/2021 16:15

So I am guessing this is your dd and your dh (not her father)?

Honestly I would be suspicious as fuck.

I find it really odd they took it to him and not you. But now saying they will take your decision on board

My personal opinion is that if you are even considering a lie detector, the marriage is over.

But also, presuming this is your dd, deciding you believe him could be putting her at huge risk.

PuzzlingPieces · 27/10/2021 16:16

It is absolutely an adult relative.

I don't think she is lying/she isn't and DH has agreed - the query is over motive and depending on what that is/what I believe it is - how and if I move on from that.

I can absolutely live with kinks and fetishes tbh although going there with family is an overstep after best!!

I just want to know the truth before I can work out how I really feel and what I can do.

Thanks for the comments and views. Far easier said than done to leave an otherwise happy marriage?! Although I know on these threads it's easy to say what you would do in a fictional situation - the reality when it's your own life and the grenade has exploded is rather different

But if the trust is gone then what is left.

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PuzzlingPieces · 27/10/2021 16:18

I cannot stress enough it is an ADULT older female. Can't be dealing with this being derailed over insinuations it's not.

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FlorenceWintle · 27/10/2021 16:19

Is toddler often left unsupervised to wander through rooms and go through drawers in someone else's house? And seems unlikely they would select one item and leave with it and leave everything else reasonably intact? Surely they'd pull stuff out and make much more of a mess than carefully remove one item from the back?

This is what I was thinking and makes it implausible to me.

PuzzlingPieces · 27/10/2021 16:19

By older I mean older than me. Not elderly or what you would typically call "vulnerable".

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KingsleyShacklebolt · 27/10/2021 16:19

would you feel it reasonable to request a lie detector test in these circumstances

Where do you live, Jeremy Kyle land?

asteroommatus · 27/10/2021 16:19

To be fair.

Its vile either way. Adult or not.

Its like picking which level of vile behaviour you can live with

Starlightening · 27/10/2021 16:19

Needing some advice please ?
I’ve been married 7 years and have 3 kids 8,6,4 years old and iam 7 months pregnant. We had ivf for 1st baby and the last two natural to our complete surprise!! And so is number baby number 4 ! Husband has been unsupportive since I told him I was pregnant and I’ve had to cope with being pregnant on my own for the past 7 months , he looked disgusted when I told him I was pregnant , and avoids the subject is hostile towards me and would rather ignore the whole baby thing! I’ve never felt so alone and unsupported, he puts on a brave face in front of family and friends but is horrible to me behind closed doors! Finances have been really tight recently and I’ve had to take a loan to cover my maternity leave so at least I can cover my half of the bills , he’s not offered to help financially or emotionally throughout ( he earns 3 times my salary ) I can’t ask him for anything as I get my head bitten off ! I have no other financial help and can’t claim child benefits as it would mess his tax up , and he doesn’t want me to do that ! I don’t know what to do ? Any advice please ?

bluebeck · 27/10/2021 16:20

I would think he had sexual feelings towards this female relative.

If it was a fetish surely it would be much easier for him to access your underwear? Or he could just buy his own and store it somewhere else?

PuzzlingPieces · 27/10/2021 16:20

@KingsleyShacklebolt

would you feel it reasonable to request a lie detector test in these circumstances

Where do you live, Jeremy Kyle land?

Frankly at the moment, yes I do and it's so painful! Don't be goady please. I came here for support and views and plenty of others have managed that.
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SunshineCake1 · 27/10/2021 16:22

Your dh is lying. His excuses are so detailed there can be no other option imho.