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Suspicious behaviour

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PuzzlingPieces · 27/10/2021 15:01

Have toyed with posting this but here goes.

Recently, it has emerged that my DH has been accused of going through the underwear of a close female relative on two separate occasions when alone in their house. I knew absolutely nothing of this until family members accused DH directly of having a fetish. It has all come out since and I am devastated.

Context - the female family member is very particular about her belongings and refers to herself as OCD. The situation was presented to me as the female family member noticed on a recent visit after we had popped out for few hours leaving DH behind - that her underwear had moved. She found this odd but thought it could have been me or DC so tried to put out of mind.

On a further occasion a few weeks later the same thing happened - this time of an evening when DC in bed and everyone else out. She was obviously "looking" for this and feeling suspicious by this point.

In her mind there is/was no doubt that the belongings have moved as she is so particular. She doesn't leave her stuff around, ever, and the drawers are on the far side of the bedroom.

DH tells me that on first occasion, toddler age DC appeared with item earlier in day and he panicked, put it aside and then replaced it in the drawer when everyone was out so as not to look weird or draw attention to it.

On second occasion, he found a bra on the landing under our bedding (I know our bedding was on the landing) and panicked about this looking terrible especially after the first misunderstanding, so went to return it. Upon doing so he noticed just how organised the drawer was (hadn't done so on the first occasion due to speed) and panicked further so tried to "make" things look neat.

Family member referred to her drawer as a "total mess" after second occasion. Refutes the idea that DC could have obtained the item because the "nature" of the underwear was that it was at the back of the drawer not for day to day wear and child could not reach.

The landing where the bedding was is near to the laundry basket but I am told that the family member knows where her belongings are at all times (especially this one) and she is absolutely adamant it was removed from her drawer.

Family accused husband of the worst without explaining anything to me first. DH at first vehemently denied anything before later confessing that this was down to misunderstandings and gross oversteps of privacy, but not anything deviant as they suspect.

Family have now left me to it and say they will support my decision. I honestly don't know what to do or think. I am in total and utter shock. No previous indication of any inappropriate behaviour or fetish/sexual issues albeit my DH is someone that can have the odd social "clanger" so to speak.

We are happily married and I love my husband. I also love my family and don't think they have motive to lie and just want to protect me. They are willing to draw a line if I ask for that (easier said than done given how this was all explosively accused but that's a secondary issue until I can get this rationalised in my head!).

What would you believe / do?

And secondly, would you feel it reasonable to request a lie detector test in these circumstances? If a misunderstanding, very prepared to move on although very let down and devastated nonetheless. If the motive is something else (even just nosiness rather than anything more dreadful), what should I do? Appreciate in a marriage this should never be needed but I feel lost.

I want the truth even jf it's worst case scenario. My worst fear is that even if I choose to believe whatever I do, and move on (with help and counselling or whatever that may take) this may always niggle at me. It would also niggle at me if I left my husband, too. Totally lost.

OP posts:
mayblossominapril · 27/10/2021 17:16

Its clean underwear, he's not done anything with it or to any person.
I would tell him firmly to leave other people underwear alone in future and buy his own if required and not stay at that relatives again.

The relative maybe wrong and not left things as she thought

Whats weird about a woman touching another female relatives underwear? I was staying with my aunt many years ago, put some of my washing and hers in the washer. We both had the same bra in different sizes. The bras got muddled up. I went home and left mine behind.She later that week couldn't understand why she couldn't get her bra on. She's a 40D, I was 30E. We laughed about it over dinner next time we meet

Evenstar · 27/10/2021 17:16

This happened to a family member of mine, it was her DD’s fiancé who was living with them and had made it plain he found her mum attractive. Not only had he been in the drawers, but there was evidence of his purpose in doing so.

Of course my relative’s DD and the fiancé denied he had done it and the DD had no relationship with her mother after she made them leave her house. He had also stolen money so that was the reason given to other people.

Sorry OP I think your DH’s explanations and denials sound fairly implausible.

doyouwantachuffedybadge · 27/10/2021 17:16

@thenightsky

It sounds like an episode from Father Ted, where bloke digs himself in deeper by trying to explain.
"You've got to expect this kind of thing in the priesthood..."
Sammiekim · 27/10/2021 17:17

If she was that ocd as you described she wouldnt just have her underwear "lying around" to be so easily obtained. As well, I doubt your child would constantly be set on going through her undies draw. Once was maybe an exception, twice is unnevering.

If strangers on the internet arent buying it never should you op

Starcaller · 27/10/2021 17:17

I mean, we've only his word there was a bra in the first place, haven't we? Hmm He said that's why he was in the drawer - he was putting it back. I agree it's very unlikely she would have left a bra visible on the landing, so perhaps she didn't and there never was a bra?

Cuntness · 27/10/2021 17:17

Oh my gosh - is it your mum? Does your husband have a thing for your mums knickers?!

oohyoudevilyou · 27/10/2021 17:19

Rifling through his SiL/ Mil's knicker drawer makes him a creep with no respect for other people's privacy. Concocting elaborate lies to cover up makes him untrustworthy. I've known a couple of teenage boys who've done similar, and heard the stories about decorators etc who have done this in customers homes...very unpleasant and I'd feel furious and violated if it happened to me. Can't say whether I'd consider it divorce-worthy but it'd certainly chage they way I feel about him if my Dp did it.

Good luck OP, whatever you choose to do - he's let everyone down. If you choose to forgive him, I hope he has learned his lesson.

knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 17:21

YET, she carelessly leaves a bra out across a room?
No, something does not add up. You can't be obsessively OCD one minute, and lazy and untidy the next.

Look this is a strange thread, but taking it at face value, who said the OCD woman left her bra across the room? The husband?

FatCatThinCat · 27/10/2021 17:21

How can your relative be absolutely sure she didn't leave her things the way she found them?

She can be absolutely sure because the OP's husband has admitted he's been in her knicker drawer. Twice!

Yerroblemom1923 · 27/10/2021 17:24

Ok so he was being a bit nosey, checking out another woman's underwear...I appreciate it's not on really but is it actually as bad as that?! Seems a massive overreaction by all parties. Of course he's embarrassed, he got caught. But surely you just say, don't do it again and move on with life?
Curiosity got the better of him. If he does want to wear women's underwear then surely he'd confess to you at least and you could deal with it as a couple - without involving the whole family.

Mintlegs · 27/10/2021 17:24

Does he have a fetish or obsession with your underwear is there anything to indicate that he has these tendencies anyway apart from said relatives underwear?

knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 17:25

Should have added this quote from TheGirlCat to my post:

It reads to me that she set OP's husband up somehow, maybe knowing that he'd over-rectify things. Something is soooo off about this and the woman turning her OCD on and off like a convenient tap. Something is as off about the woman - if not more so, than OP's husband.

Yes, this elaborate scheme is so much more likely than the op's husband being a creep. Hmm

OVienna · 27/10/2021 17:26

Mulling over this bizarre situation.

I wonder if there is something else going on here - there is a 'story' but this isn't the real one. I have to say I'm wondering about a potential attraction/incident or near incident and this is a way to deflect from that.

Everything about it is very odd.

TheGirlCat · 27/10/2021 17:26

@knittingaddict

YET, she carelessly leaves a bra out across a room? No, something does not add up. You can't be obsessively OCD one minute, and lazy and untidy the next.

Look this is a strange thread, but taking it at face value, who said the OCD woman left her bra across the room? The husband?

Fair point, but I'm sure if she didn't leave it across the room, she would have made a big point of her not doing that, and would have told the OP that it didn't happen. Unless the OP comes back and says she denied leaving the bra there. But then, that would be a major point of the story and it would be in the OP that the woman denied the bra was there in the first place.
ifidosaysomyself · 27/10/2021 17:27

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vajingleberry · 27/10/2021 17:28

Wandering slightly off topic, how do you get someone to do a lie detector test, and who would carry out the test?

Can you just order the machine from Amazon?

knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 17:28

You're making stuff up now TheGirlCat. How is that in any way useful? Might be better to stick to the facts, for what it's worth.

TheGirlCat · 27/10/2021 17:29

@knittingaddict

You're making stuff up now TheGirlCat. How is that in any way useful? Might be better to stick to the facts, for what it's worth.
Where am I making things up? Point out where? I've stuck strictly to what we know, what the OP has said.
OVienna · 27/10/2021 17:29

@knittingaddict

You're making stuff up now TheGirlCat. How is that in any way useful? Might be better to stick to the facts, for what it's worth.
I think you mean me.
knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 17:30

@vajingleberry

Wandering slightly off topic, how do you get someone to do a lie detector test, and who would carry out the test?

Can you just order the machine from Amazon?

The op's been watching too much daytime tv. Actual lie detectors are notoriously inaccurate, are not admissable in court and need a skilled person to analyse the data.
knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 17:32

I think you mean me.

No I didn't.

FatCatThinCat · 27/10/2021 17:32

@vajingleberry

Wandering slightly off topic, how do you get someone to do a lie detector test, and who would carry out the test?

Can you just order the machine from Amazon?

liedetectortest.uk/
PlanDeRaccordement · 27/10/2021 17:34

@TheGirlCat
I agree. I can completely understand a man who is IL relative over rectifying things and saying nothing about it out of embarrassment when faced with an female ILs underwear popping up in the hands of their toddler.

But I do not understand how any normal person can note their underwear has slightly been moved in a drawer and then jump to conclusion that their relatives’ DH must have an underwear fetish centred on herself.

A person with OCD, yes it fits with paranoia being a key symptom. And it did occur to me that the first incident could have made the female relative believe the DH had a fetish so strongly such that she then slipped the bra into the bedding as a “trap” thus the triumphant public accusations directly after....

HarrietsChariot · 27/10/2021 17:37

It's more likely your relative is mistaken, her condition may mean she genuinely believes her view is correct but it sounds very suspicious to me. As a PP has said, if he's guilty the truth will come out in another way.

TBH your relative should have just set up a CCTV camera in her bedroom and not said anything, that way if she is telling the truth she'd have evidence to back up her version of events.

knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 17:38

All I'm saying is that the simplest explanation is likely to be the real one. Bonkers plans to make the husband look bad are much less likely than the husband rummaging in the undie drawer. How many times has anyone on here had to return undies to a relatives drawer in their bedroom? Not once, but twice?

It happened because the husband has said it did. That's not in dispute. How would the relative know that the husband's first move would be to return it himself?

I don't understand the stories that people are making up here. I love a good crime drama as much as the next person, but honestly...