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PuzzlingPieces · 27/10/2021 15:01

Have toyed with posting this but here goes.

Recently, it has emerged that my DH has been accused of going through the underwear of a close female relative on two separate occasions when alone in their house. I knew absolutely nothing of this until family members accused DH directly of having a fetish. It has all come out since and I am devastated.

Context - the female family member is very particular about her belongings and refers to herself as OCD. The situation was presented to me as the female family member noticed on a recent visit after we had popped out for few hours leaving DH behind - that her underwear had moved. She found this odd but thought it could have been me or DC so tried to put out of mind.

On a further occasion a few weeks later the same thing happened - this time of an evening when DC in bed and everyone else out. She was obviously "looking" for this and feeling suspicious by this point.

In her mind there is/was no doubt that the belongings have moved as she is so particular. She doesn't leave her stuff around, ever, and the drawers are on the far side of the bedroom.

DH tells me that on first occasion, toddler age DC appeared with item earlier in day and he panicked, put it aside and then replaced it in the drawer when everyone was out so as not to look weird or draw attention to it.

On second occasion, he found a bra on the landing under our bedding (I know our bedding was on the landing) and panicked about this looking terrible especially after the first misunderstanding, so went to return it. Upon doing so he noticed just how organised the drawer was (hadn't done so on the first occasion due to speed) and panicked further so tried to "make" things look neat.

Family member referred to her drawer as a "total mess" after second occasion. Refutes the idea that DC could have obtained the item because the "nature" of the underwear was that it was at the back of the drawer not for day to day wear and child could not reach.

The landing where the bedding was is near to the laundry basket but I am told that the family member knows where her belongings are at all times (especially this one) and she is absolutely adamant it was removed from her drawer.

Family accused husband of the worst without explaining anything to me first. DH at first vehemently denied anything before later confessing that this was down to misunderstandings and gross oversteps of privacy, but not anything deviant as they suspect.

Family have now left me to it and say they will support my decision. I honestly don't know what to do or think. I am in total and utter shock. No previous indication of any inappropriate behaviour or fetish/sexual issues albeit my DH is someone that can have the odd social "clanger" so to speak.

We are happily married and I love my husband. I also love my family and don't think they have motive to lie and just want to protect me. They are willing to draw a line if I ask for that (easier said than done given how this was all explosively accused but that's a secondary issue until I can get this rationalised in my head!).

What would you believe / do?

And secondly, would you feel it reasonable to request a lie detector test in these circumstances? If a misunderstanding, very prepared to move on although very let down and devastated nonetheless. If the motive is something else (even just nosiness rather than anything more dreadful), what should I do? Appreciate in a marriage this should never be needed but I feel lost.

I want the truth even jf it's worst case scenario. My worst fear is that even if I choose to believe whatever I do, and move on (with help and counselling or whatever that may take) this may always niggle at me. It would also niggle at me if I left my husband, too. Totally lost.

OP posts:
user1471442488 · 27/10/2021 17:39

A few people in here know nothing about OCD and are spouting shite. It is not always about cleaning and being tidy. Educate yourselves. Some of the comments are embarrassing.

knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 17:40

@HarrietsChariot

It's more likely your relative is mistaken, her condition may mean she genuinely believes her view is correct but it sounds very suspicious to me. As a PP has said, if he's guilty the truth will come out in another way.

TBH your relative should have just set up a CCTV camera in her bedroom and not said anything, that way if she is telling the truth she'd have evidence to back up her version of events.

But the husband has admitted to twice finding underwear and returning it to the drawer. It happened. Why it happened is another thing.
Branleuse · 27/10/2021 17:41

can you go ballistic at him. Tell him that you dont have a problem with kinks or fetishes but to do this to your sister/cousin/aunt is absolutely beyond the pale. That hes humiliated you and now hes lying to you and you werent born yesterday. To fucking own up and admit it, because without the truth there is no trust, and without trust, there is no relationship

Starcaller · 27/10/2021 17:43

Twice in the space of a few weeks, he has been in the underwear drawer of the same female relative. Perhaps it is just bad luck, but in 36 years I've never had occasion to be in someone else's underwear drawer, let alone twice in a few weeks. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck ...

MedusasBadHairDay · 27/10/2021 17:43

@Starcaller

I mean, we've only his word there was a bra in the first place, haven't we? Hmm He said that's why he was in the drawer - he was putting it back. I agree it's very unlikely she would have left a bra visible on the landing, so perhaps she didn't and there never was a bra?
That seems far more likely than the relative hatching a plan that involves hiding one of her bras in plain sight in order to force the DH to go into her underwear drawer
Couchbettato · 27/10/2021 17:44

It doesn't add up to me, because if the toddler was walking round with something, how did he know it came from the underwear drawer and wasn't just folded on the bed or a chair or something?

I would absolutely not be rummaging through someone's stuff to return it. I would put it somewhere discreet and then apologise for the child's behaviour in private.

SickAndTiredAgain · 27/10/2021 17:47

I could probably believe either one of those explanations (although I’d want to know why the toddler was wandering around unattended). But only one. You don’t accidentally end up handling someone else’s underwear twice.

A lie detector test would be a waste of time.

ErickBroch · 27/10/2021 17:47

Oh no OP! I am sorry but I don't believe your DH - his excuses are appalling! It is vile that he has been going into your sister's underwear drawer, probably to smell them or even worse. It's a violation to your poor sister and you. I really feel for you, I would be devastated.

PlanDeRaccordement · 27/10/2021 17:49

@knittingaddict

All I'm saying is that the simplest explanation is likely to be the real one. Bonkers plans to make the husband look bad are much less likely than the husband rummaging in the undie drawer. How many times has anyone on here had to return undies to a relatives drawer in their bedroom? Not once, but twice?

It happened because the husband has said it did. That's not in dispute. How would the relative know that the husband's first move would be to return it himself?

I don't understand the stories that people are making up here. I love a good crime drama as much as the next person, but honestly...

How did you determine which is more likely? That is a matter of opinion surely.

The female relative is diagnosed with severe OCD...so it is actually in my opinion more likely that she would do paranoia fuelled actions consistent with her professionally diagnosed mental illness than the likelihood of the DH who is not mentally unwell being a closet fetishist.

How would the relative know that the husband's first move would be to return it himself? Doesn’t matter what he would do, he would look guilty whether he put it back or called attention to it...

ChargingBuck · 27/10/2021 17:50

@PlanDeRaccordement

Paranoia is a common symptom of OCD. I honestly would take her accusation with a grain of salt.
Lying is a common symptom of being caught perving on a relative's pants. I honestly would take his explanation with a grain of salt.
knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 17:50

@Couchbettato

It doesn't add up to me, because if the toddler was walking round with something, how did he know it came from the underwear drawer and wasn't just folded on the bed or a chair or something?

I would absolutely not be rummaging through someone's stuff to return it. I would put it somewhere discreet and then apologise for the child's behaviour in private.

Exactly. I would put it somewhere safe and apologise for letting the toddler wander around unsupervised. But then I don't go in bedrooms in other people's houses.
PlanDeRaccordement · 27/10/2021 17:50

@Starcaller

Twice in the space of a few weeks, he has been in the underwear drawer of the same female relative. Perhaps it is just bad luck, but in 36 years I've never had occasion to be in someone else's underwear drawer, let alone twice in a few weeks. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck ...
I have...I do the laundry round here and am constantly in and out of family underwear drawers.
Feedingthebirds1 · 27/10/2021 17:51

There is only his word that (a) the toddler found the thong and (b) that he happened to find a bra under the bedding - and tried to return both. A bit of a coincidence that on two occasions when he was in the house alone/with the toddler, underwear suddenly made an appearance and he had to put it back.

knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 17:52

So TWICE the husband has had to return underwear to a woman's drawer. You think that's likely? When was the last time you had to do it even once?

ChargingBuck · 27/10/2021 17:53

@cultkid

Sounds like the relative has MH issues I don't believe her
Sod off with the disablism please.

Managing OCD does not make the sufferer a liar.
What a nasty, reductive attitude. Belongs to the Victorian era, along with the abusive asylums they wrote people off into.

SportscoachWills50 · 27/10/2021 17:54

What is DH?

knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 17:55

Oh come one, that's completely disingenuous. The husband wan't doing the laundry and certainly not in someone else's house. The two are completely different scenarios.

knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 17:55

That was to this:

I have...I do the laundry round here and am constantly in and out of family underwear drawers.

knittingaddict · 27/10/2021 17:56

@SportscoachWills50

What is DH?
Dear husband usually.
Starcaller · 27/10/2021 17:57

@PlanDeRaccordement In other people's homes? Without them knowing or giving permission? And the same person's underwear drawer twice in quick succession? How many times has that happened in your life? Grin

ChargingBuck · 27/10/2021 17:59

@cultkid

Sounds like the relative has MH issues I don't believe her
Sod off with the disablism please.

Managing OCD does not make the sufferer a liar.
What a nasty, reductive attitude. Belongs to the Victorian era, along with the abusive asylums they wrote people off into.

SportscoachWills50 · 27/10/2021 18:00

Knitting addict

Thanks, she should leave him, I can guess what he was doing.

GatoradeMeBitch · 27/10/2021 18:05

Don't bother wasting your money on a lie detector test. They are very unreliable and you wouldn't want to make decisions about your marriage based on one.

It is odd that your DH has admitted to two separate encounters with your relative's underwear. It was also unnecessary for him to go for her underwear drawer each time. Surely throwing randomly found underwear in the laundry basket would be most people's first thought?

I don't know why he's been alone in her house, but evidently things happen during these times that don't happen when he's not there alone. If he's going there to water plants or something, perhaps that should be someone else's responsibility in future. Whatever the truth of it, she's not comfortable, and he shouldn't be alone in her house anymore. He definitely shouldn't have access to a copy of her doorkey.

ChargingBuck · 27/10/2021 18:05

But your family's reaction is quite honestly batshit. Something got moved. To accuse your DH of being a creepy weirdo fetish kinky git is a bit of a stretch, I'm afraid

The alternative - as he has now confessed to "gross oversteps of privacy" - is that he is simply voyeuristic/entitled/slightly pervy.

He doesn't have to be a 'creepy weirdo fetish kinky git' for OP to be freaked out by the privacy invasion alone, @sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea

neednotknow · 27/10/2021 18:05

Your husband is a creep. Sounds like he's been hiding it well.

Starts with the underwear then watching then videoing...

I wouldn't let him back in my house. I feel sorry for your sister. He's probably been perving since you stayed with them.

Blaming the kids for his sick shit... pathetic.

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