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Was DH BU to hand in his notice

193 replies

NelsonMandelaHouse · 22/10/2021 09:21

DH works driving HGVs.

Recently, he's fallen ill with a chest infection type illness with a spiking temperature and was caught up in the PCR fuckup so was was alarmed to hear that his negative might not have been a negative. He had Covid in the first wave, and is scared to get it again as he's asthmatic. He told work, who had been bastards about him being ill anyway, "bantering" about him drinking lemsip and using his inhalers, and the boss made him think his job was in jeopardy if he took time off for illness, so he had been working through it. He came home on his break and I helped him take a lateral flow and it had a line. Not glaringly bright but clearly there. He told work as soon as he got back to the yard, where he had to go to return the work vehicle. They marched him to the office and made him take multiple lateral flow tests, saying it was company policy. He said he didn't want to take them, he'd already taken one and he didn't know what taking four at once would show, even if they were all negative, he had one positive and had been asked to retake his PCR, he has symptoms, he needs to go home! And, reason I have to help him take them is because he's got such a sensitive gag reflex that he panics doing it himself and that can set off an asthma attack.

Why make him take multiple?? Three were positive, one was negative. They held up the negative and called him a bullshitter, because he's already had Covid and you can't get it again. DH said "sorry, but I'm already feeling ill and one negative test doesn't count out the four positives I've had today. I need to go home, take a PCR and you all should probably take one as well."

They refused to let him go home and told him if he did, he'd lose his job! We have three kids to support. DH reluctantly drove for the rest of the day and then came home. He looked awful, he had a fever again and he emailed in to work (their preferred method) and said he would not come in the next day, he needed to take a PCR and he felt too ill to be behind the wheel of a huge vehicle.

They went mental. Messaging his personal phone, telling him he's expected in regardless, that they'll instigate a disciplinary if he doesn't, etc. Probably because they couldn't get another driver on short notice.

DH responded by handing in his notice, saying he wasn't working for people who treat their staff this way. He's an HGV driver, so can quite obviously get another job pretty fast. They've left a voicemail calling him spiteful and unprofessional and saying they won't give him a reference, he was incredibly unreasonable to quit and if he has a problem he should go down the grievance route.

Was he BU? Because I don't bloody think so! But maybe it's because I'm too annoyed on his behalf.

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RhubarbFairy · 22/10/2021 09:23

Christ.

No he wasn't being unreasonable.

GiltEdges · 22/10/2021 09:23

Well no... but he probably hasn't done himself any favours by just handing in his notice. Why didn't he just self certify himself as sick, which he's legally entitled to do, and give himself the time to weigh up his options?

Rachie1973 · 22/10/2021 09:23

No. I think he was right.

DoctorSnortles · 22/10/2021 09:23

I don’t think he’s BU at all. And it’s no wonder no-one wants to be an HGV driver if that is how staff are treated.

I hope he feels better soon.

grapewine · 22/10/2021 09:25

No, he's wasn't. They are the unprofessional ones.

NelsonMandelaHouse · 22/10/2021 09:26

@GiltEdges

Well no... but he probably hasn't done himself any favours by just handing in his notice. Why didn't he just self certify himself as sick, which he's legally entitled to do, and give himself the time to weigh up his options?
Probably due to the fact that he was telling work for almost a week that he wasn't well and they were telling him he'd have no job to come back to if he "cried off." There's no company sick pay, so I can only think they don't have anyone else available with the same licenses as DH, because it clearly wasn't a worry that DH will be chilling at home on the company's coin.
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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 22/10/2021 09:27

How long has he been working for them? Is he employed by them?

It might be worth having a chat with ACAS because there is a possibility that this could be constructive dismissal. Even if he doesn't want to go to a tribunal he may be able to force them to give him a fair reference.

BFCfairy · 22/10/2021 09:27

Not unreasonable and i am glad for you he was able to quit due to bullying and antisocial uncaring and irresponsible behaviour and when feels better can get another job easily.

We should all be able to stand up to that bullying.

NelsonMandelaHouse · 22/10/2021 09:28

@DoctorSnortles

I don’t think he’s BU at all. And it’s no wonder no-one wants to be an HGV driver if that is how staff are treated.

I hope he feels better soon.

It is absolutely shocking how they're treated, yet they're so necessary. The number of sites DH has been to that won't let him use a toilet or get a cup of coffee from their FREE machine is shocking.
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Etinoxaurus · 22/10/2021 09:29

Poor bloke. Is he a member of a Union?

arootintootingoodtime · 22/10/2021 09:29

I agree, talk to ACAS because that does sound like it might be constructive dismissal.

Sorry he was treated this way and is feeling poorly. Hope he feels better soon.

wizzywig · 22/10/2021 09:30

I don't think he was BU. And I'm glad he chose to protect himself and road users by not driving

NelsonMandelaHouse · 22/10/2021 09:30

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude

How long has he been working for them? Is he employed by them?

It might be worth having a chat with ACAS because there is a possibility that this could be constructive dismissal. Even if he doesn't want to go to a tribunal he may be able to force them to give him a fair reference.

He's been there less than two years, but only just. HR have called and asked him to explain why he gave in his notice and he did so and followed it up with an email, so they've got it on record. It's a U.K. wide company, he just works for the local branch
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endofagain · 22/10/2021 09:32

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I am so sorry he was treated badly. I hope he feels better soon.

Bananarama21 · 22/10/2021 09:32

What company was it op pm, my husband is a hgv driver

MrsBertBibby · 22/10/2021 09:33

No, not at all unreasonable, and a decent claim for constructive dismissal. Has he worked there long?

CovidinPrimary · 22/10/2021 09:33

Don’t worry, my DF walked out of a HGV job recently as they where treating him horribly he had a new job within a week due to the shortage, it was just agency and paid slightly less, but he managed to find a high pard perm job a few weeks after that (on better hours and better conditions)

Brefugee · 22/10/2021 09:35

Is he on a union ? If not join one for yhe next shit employer.

He hasn't done anything wrong. In his email to HR fid he include all the details in your OP?

He needs to get well then he can apply for new jobs. He needn't worry about no reference, cuttebtly HGV drivers hold all the cards. Make sure on his next job he has a watertight contract - the union can help with that.

Brefugee · 22/10/2021 09:35

*currently

Flambola · 22/10/2021 09:36

He should tell them he’s going to take it to the media.

Anyway, no your DH is not being unreasonable and after having worked in the logistics industry for 10 years (not anymore!) it does not surprise me one iota that this is how he was treated. I hope he recovers soon.

MrsBertBibby · 22/10/2021 09:36

What is his notice period in his contract? For establishing length of employment, the notice period in included, so if his period is 1 month, you add on a month to the total time he has worked there. Does that get him to 2 years?

Thehop · 22/10/2021 09:39

Jesus I don’t know how he didn’t tell them to stick their job when they presented him with 4 tests!

They are vile and he absolutely should walk out. They need him more than he needs them!

Tell him to rest and recover then get another job.

I’d also talk to ACAS about constructive dismissal.

ChateauMargaux · 22/10/2021 09:40

He should speak to ACAS and a union if he is in one. This is unreasonable behaviour on the part of his employer. He should write down all of the interactions so far including a transcript of the voice message, he should save that if he can.

If the company is a large one and had HR functions, he should contact them. It would also seem that it is something that should be reported to teh Health and Safety commission.

billy1966 · 22/10/2021 09:43

Absolutely shocking behaviour and highly abusive of them.

Your poor husband.

Keep those messages.

I think the company should be reported to the media too.

Poor man.
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