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AIBU to not help my friend?

195 replies

OpalSky · 09/10/2021 09:17

This happened last July, but I haven’t had time to think properly about it until recently when I asked friends for advice. It would help me to understand from seeing other peoples opinions on here.

Some background: I have a friend and we have been friends for over 20 years and we live near each other. We both have kids. She works full time, I am a SAHM. I help people when I can, but I don’t like to ask for favours if I can do something myself and only ask as a last resort should I need help. She is the opposite and likes to ask for help when needs it and I don’t mind helping when I can.

It was the night of the Euro final. Her 10 year old son had a fever before the match. She let him stay up and they all watched the football and it didn’t finish until gone 11pm. She then discovered her Calpol had expired. I was in bed about to go sleep when she text and asked if I had Calpol. At this point it was near midnight. I said ‘you weren’t thinking of coming round were you, as I am about to go sleep.’ She said well he has got a temperature. I said ‘it’s probably best he goes sleep, but I can leave Calpol on the doorstep if you want to come and collect’. She said no thanks. And that’s what has annoyed her.

She wrote me an email saying she was hurt and disappointed in me. She was angry that I said her son will be fine if he just goes to sleep, and she was angry I said I was about to go sleep and you were not thinking of coming round were you. She said a friend is someone you can count on and is always there for you and that it’s a two way relationship. I apologised as I didn’t mean it in an insensitive way and in no way was I meaning to be unsympathetic.

So we met up, she said she knew I hadn’t intended to hurt her with the words I used, but that I crossed the line in not being there in her hour of need. Her son was fine the next day without any Calpol that night. She said ‘does it matter that it wasn’t an emergency, you weren’t there for me in my hour of need.’ She said she would do ‘anything for my kids’. Now she has not done anything in particular to help with my kids in the past as I never like to ask for help unless I really need it.

Then she bought up the time I didn’t agree to be emergency contact for the school for her kids. She asked me this years ago, but has obviously held resentment in me as she kept mentioning it. She said ‘what harm would it have done to have picked up my son in that rare chance’. She was quite upset about this. She said ‘friend A’ agreed to be emergency contact. She said ‘so far she has been a good friend.’

She then went on to say to me: ‘I don’t know anything about you. I still don’t know what you do all day while the kids are at school’. I was quite shocked she could say something like that as I have never judged her in that way for working full time. I felt like she was judging me for being a SAHM.

When I got home that day I started writing an email back to her explaining how I felt. But before I could finish the email she wrote to say I don’t think we can be close friends anymore as she said we have different ideas of what a friendship is.

In the end I did send a long email back saying yes we are different and she has certain needs and expectations from a friendship, and when she doesn’t get those needs met she gets disappointed. I told her that I felt I should have the right to say no to being emergency contact for her kids, but that she didn’t respect my right to say no.

I felt like she doesn’t consider me at all, it’s all about her needs and no consideration for my needs or feelings at all.

No response back from her.

I feel used and because she hasn’t even bothered to respond, I feel like she has never considered this a two way relationship. It’s never been about my feelings and having two way communication. It’s all about her or nothing.

YANBU-I should put closure to this friendship, she has been using me

YABU-I have been a bad friend and I need to learn to help friends in need

OP posts:
Stroppypants · 09/10/2021 09:24

I don’t think friendships should be this hard and maybe you have outgrown each other.

I don’t think you did anything wrong over the calpol or your comments and its also ok to say you don’t want to be an emergency contact. She should respect that.

Just move on and chalk it up to experience. But I bet she gets in contact again at some point!

SixTwirlingTutus · 09/10/2021 09:27

some people are very good at getting others to run around them like blue arsed flies. Looks like she is one of those people and you have simply decided not to play the game.

I think you have had a lucky escape.

hardboiledeggs · 09/10/2021 09:30

You did nothing wrong, supermarkets are open 24hours, she could easily have got some from their. She’s being unreasonable and nasty for no reason tbh

Beefmeupscotty · 09/10/2021 09:33

If I'd run out of calpol at 11pm I wouldn't expect a friend to wait up for me to collect. I'd either find a 24hr chemist or as the child was 10, just give the appropriate dosage of adult paracetamol.

Yanbu

FrenchBoule · 09/10/2021 09:36

If my child needed Calpol I’d schlep my arse to my friends door to pick it up and not berate her for not wanting to come.
Your friend is a user.
Grand gestures and big words to put you in your place and make you feel guilty.
Words are cheap,it’s actions that speak.
Good for you to send that email to your self absorbed ex friend and getting it off your chest.
You being a SAHM doesn’t mean you’re there to facilitate the others (except your closest family).
Sod her.

RainforestLizard · 09/10/2021 09:36

Massive overreaction on her part. You offered assistance by leaving the calpol for her to pick up. That's all she required and you were happy to provide it. End of story.

Her reaction to what you said and reassessing the friendship is ridiculous.

ColettesEarrings · 09/10/2021 09:40

I don't think she's particularly been using you, but you both want/expect different things in a friendship. You've outgrown each other. And if this all happened in July, just let things go quiet and move on.

holidaynearlyover · 09/10/2021 09:44

I would take calpol over to a friend in need- it's what friends do isn't it (presuming she's a single parent or no other half who could stay at home with the ill child). That's how we all work as friends in my group but it seems like that doesn't work for the pair of you so probably best to let the friendship drift

Aprilx · 09/10/2021 09:46

I must admit, I don’t really use my mobile phone much anyway, but I would not have answered or even read a text at 11pm at all!

I don’t actually see how she has been using you based on your thread, you appear to have, quite rightly, been clear with your boundaries and not allowed yourself to be used. Nevertheless this is not a friendship I would be bothered about maintaining.

Keepitrealnomists · 09/10/2021 09:46

She's not your friend, she's someone who uses you to get what she wants and when you object she acts like a spoilt brat. Your better off without her and her drama.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 09/10/2021 09:51

I do think she was using you. Her email is all about her, what she wants. Her idea of friendship is her asking you to do something and you doing that exact thing. Not compromising or a two way street. You responded to a late text and offered to leave calpol out for her. You weren't deserting her in her 'hour of need', you just didnt comply with her 'hour of do exactly as I say'. And bringing you being a SAHP into it shows what she really thinks of you.

I think this was always going to happen, if someone doesn't stop to consider someone elses viewpoint in any way at all, and is prepared to drop a friendship over who does a 10 min journey (I'm assuming) over calpol then it was never going to work long term

DoItAfraid · 09/10/2021 09:53

@SixTwirlingTutus

some people are very good at getting others to run around them like blue arsed flies. Looks like she is one of those people and you have simply decided not to play the game.

I think you have had a lucky escape.

I agree with this comment. It’s like a skill some people just have!

We have all been there with finding not enough calpol / nurofen in the bottle but honestly i wouldnt dream of asking a friend for this sort of thing. Supermarkets, off licences all sell calpol till late at night. Failing that - garages, Deliveroo etc.

I have come to learn that people who trample over your boundaries really dont like it when you try put a stop to it / try to even out the balance in her relationship.

I also found her email to you quite manipulative and very self absorbed.

Throw in the cheap shot about “i dont know what you do all day” and think that you dodged a bullet there!

ThePlantsitter · 09/10/2021 09:55

The only thing you've done wrong is listen to that shit. If you'd told her she was a drama queen/ cut her off when she started that nonsense you might not feel so crap now. Not easy to do though, so just try to forget about her & her nutsoid behaviour and thank your lucky stars she's gone away.

DoItAfraid · 09/10/2021 09:55

*in the relationship, that should be

godmum56 · 09/10/2021 09:58

over giving an 11 YO expired calpol? FFS. She needs to get a grip.

PatsyJStone · 09/10/2021 09:59

I would have had the same approach with the calpol situation as you did. Unfortunately seems like your friendship is being tested and she is being demanding in her requirements of her friends in a way that you may not wish to agree.

The results give you the same overall view, you know your own thoughts too. It’s sad to lose friends but they’ve also got to be friendships worth having, and enjoyable, not hard work

OpalSky · 09/10/2021 10:00

@holidaynearlyover-she is not a single mum. She has a husband. They have a car. We live in london. There are plenty of places to get Calpol late at night. Well that’s what I would have done in her situation, gone to the shop to get some, not bother my friend late at night.

OP posts:
Quire · 09/10/2021 10:02

I think your response was fairly rude. Why not just say ‘I’m about to go to sleep but will leave the Calpol on the doorstep for you if you want it?’ rather than ‘You weren’t thinking of coming round, were you?’

pasturesgreen · 09/10/2021 10:07

I think the friendship has run its course.

Your 'friend' would have been sorely disappointed in me, as I wouldn't even have replied to her original message as I'm usually asleep by that time. As a rule of thumb, all messages received when I'm already in bed, get a reply in the morning, unless literally a matter of life and death: it's served me well so far, few things are so urgent they can't wait till morning.

ajauagsk · 09/10/2021 10:08

@Quire

I think your response was fairly rude. Why not just say ‘I’m about to go to sleep but will leave the Calpol on the doorstep for you if you want it?’ rather than ‘You weren’t thinking of coming round, were you?’
Yes I think this too, personally I'd have no problem with a friend coming to collect calpol at night if they needed it.

I think you're better off not being friends, you don't seem like you like each other very much.

holidaynearlyover · 09/10/2021 10:09

@OpalSky that's totally shit then! In that situation there was no issue in her getting it at all!
In my friendship group we have lots of partners on shifts who work away so we often step in to help out

Hellodarknessmyoldpal · 09/10/2021 10:09

It seems like an big overreaction on her part. That being said, i think saying 'you're not thinking of coming over' is a bit rude and I can't really imagaine a friend of mine saying this in that situation (although I nay have just popped to a shop). I would also have done this for a friend, it really doesn't seem that big an ask.

I don't really think from your post taht she is using you, just that you both have different ideas of what a friendship means. It happened a while ago, maybe just let the friendship fade out naturally.

NoSquirrels · 09/10/2021 10:10

[quote OpalSky]@holidaynearlyover-she is not a single mum. She has a husband. They have a car. We live in london. There are plenty of places to get Calpol late at night. Well that’s what I would have done in her situation, gone to the shop to get some, not bother my friend late at night.[/quote]
Bloody hell. Two resident parents in London with a car at 11pm can’t organise Calpol or other pain relief for a child who’s been ill all day. She’s thoroughly unreasonable and you’re better off without that ‘friendship’.

sonjadog · 09/10/2021 10:11

Weird overreaction from her. Leaving it on your doorstep should be plenty of help. Being a good friend does not mean running around doing someone else's bidding. I read about cases like this on MN from time to time and I think some people seem to have misunderstood what friendship is.

Merryoldgoat · 09/10/2021 10:11

I just wouldn’t treat any friend like that. I have school mum friends who would stay up to give me calpol and vice versa.

We frequently call and ask for an emergency pick up etc and it’s just how we are. No one feels like they’ve been taken advantage of etc.

You don’t want a friendship like that, she does. You aren’t compatible.

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