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AIBU to not help my friend?

195 replies

OpalSky · 09/10/2021 09:17

This happened last July, but I haven’t had time to think properly about it until recently when I asked friends for advice. It would help me to understand from seeing other peoples opinions on here.

Some background: I have a friend and we have been friends for over 20 years and we live near each other. We both have kids. She works full time, I am a SAHM. I help people when I can, but I don’t like to ask for favours if I can do something myself and only ask as a last resort should I need help. She is the opposite and likes to ask for help when needs it and I don’t mind helping when I can.

It was the night of the Euro final. Her 10 year old son had a fever before the match. She let him stay up and they all watched the football and it didn’t finish until gone 11pm. She then discovered her Calpol had expired. I was in bed about to go sleep when she text and asked if I had Calpol. At this point it was near midnight. I said ‘you weren’t thinking of coming round were you, as I am about to go sleep.’ She said well he has got a temperature. I said ‘it’s probably best he goes sleep, but I can leave Calpol on the doorstep if you want to come and collect’. She said no thanks. And that’s what has annoyed her.

She wrote me an email saying she was hurt and disappointed in me. She was angry that I said her son will be fine if he just goes to sleep, and she was angry I said I was about to go sleep and you were not thinking of coming round were you. She said a friend is someone you can count on and is always there for you and that it’s a two way relationship. I apologised as I didn’t mean it in an insensitive way and in no way was I meaning to be unsympathetic.

So we met up, she said she knew I hadn’t intended to hurt her with the words I used, but that I crossed the line in not being there in her hour of need. Her son was fine the next day without any Calpol that night. She said ‘does it matter that it wasn’t an emergency, you weren’t there for me in my hour of need.’ She said she would do ‘anything for my kids’. Now she has not done anything in particular to help with my kids in the past as I never like to ask for help unless I really need it.

Then she bought up the time I didn’t agree to be emergency contact for the school for her kids. She asked me this years ago, but has obviously held resentment in me as she kept mentioning it. She said ‘what harm would it have done to have picked up my son in that rare chance’. She was quite upset about this. She said ‘friend A’ agreed to be emergency contact. She said ‘so far she has been a good friend.’

She then went on to say to me: ‘I don’t know anything about you. I still don’t know what you do all day while the kids are at school’. I was quite shocked she could say something like that as I have never judged her in that way for working full time. I felt like she was judging me for being a SAHM.

When I got home that day I started writing an email back to her explaining how I felt. But before I could finish the email she wrote to say I don’t think we can be close friends anymore as she said we have different ideas of what a friendship is.

In the end I did send a long email back saying yes we are different and she has certain needs and expectations from a friendship, and when she doesn’t get those needs met she gets disappointed. I told her that I felt I should have the right to say no to being emergency contact for her kids, but that she didn’t respect my right to say no.

I felt like she doesn’t consider me at all, it’s all about her needs and no consideration for my needs or feelings at all.

No response back from her.

I feel used and because she hasn’t even bothered to respond, I feel like she has never considered this a two way relationship. It’s never been about my feelings and having two way communication. It’s all about her or nothing.

YANBU-I should put closure to this friendship, she has been using me

YABU-I have been a bad friend and I need to learn to help friends in need

OP posts:
toocold54 · 09/10/2021 19:14

You haven’t got to get up for work in the morning? Bring me calpol at midnight.

She didn’t ask her to bring it to her. They live close by so the friend was going to pick it up and OP was still awake regardless of whether she had work or not.

Fallagain · 09/10/2021 19:20

Back in July with a child with a temp they wouldn’t have been able to go into a shop unless he has a negative PCR test.

I think your message to her was a bit off. I would have said I can leave it on the door stop for you and I hope he feels better soon.

To be honest it sounds like she hasn’t contacted you again because he email was saying your friendship is over.

Just move on.

isitweds9thseptyet · 09/10/2021 19:29

Ten years old and calpol? Give them a paracetamol or half like the rest of us do! She is a classic CF and can't cope with your boundaries!

BunnytheFriendlyDragon · 09/10/2021 19:36

Your friend is being unreasonable

Good on you for telling her how you feel

Graphista · 09/10/2021 20:43

@HannaHanna oh come on! There's asking to borrow something at a reasonable time and in a reasonable way and there's what the friend did!

I've loaned friends and neighbours and even virtual strangers items on many occasions hell I give stuff away! As well as I said earlier giving of my time, I'm a very generous person, and generally helpful person AS MOST ARE

But there are limits to how and when this is possible/acceptable and people like the ops friend generally wear people's generosity out!

Bothering someone at almost midnight for a non emergency caused by ones own poor planning and then taking umbrage when they react accordingly is not how decent people behave.

Back in July with a child with a temp they wouldn’t have been able to go into a shop unless he has a negative PCR test.

Again TWO adults in the friends household, ill child didn't need to go anywhere

AND the child's fever was known of BEFORE the match so they should have ensured they had appropriate meds in then not several hours later

HannaHanna · 09/10/2021 20:45

@toocold54

You haven’t got to get up for work in the morning? Bring me calpol at midnight.

She didn’t ask her to bring it to her. They live close by so the friend was going to pick it up and OP was still awake regardless of whether she had work or not.

Exactly
BoredZelda · 09/10/2021 20:49

Back in July with a child with a temp they wouldn’t have been able to go into a shop unless he has a negative PCR test.

3 months ago?? July 19th was “freedom day” Much had disappeared even before that.

HannaHanna · 09/10/2021 21:26

@Graphista you and I are not going to see this the same way.

HannaHanna · 09/10/2021 21:32

Also @Graphista 5.2 billion people watched the Euro. Everyone, include the OP was still awake when her friend asked. Let’s not act like it was 4am on a random school night.

JustRambling · 10/10/2021 02:19

If my phone rang at nearly midnight when I was ready for sleep I would have panicked that it was an emergency. On finding out that it was just a request for some Calpol I would probably have replied something stupid just like the OP did. She DID then suggest leaving it on the doorstep but the offer was refused.

HannaHanna · 10/10/2021 02:28

It was a text.

JustRambling · 10/10/2021 03:35

@HannaHanna

It was a text.
Would still have reacted the same.
Graphista · 10/10/2021 03:47

@HannaHanna clearly (not seeing it same way)

Inc "everyone was still awake" not everyone watches footie funnily enough not even that match. I don't, my parents aren't footie watchers I know plenty of people who wouldn't have been watching

HannaHanna · 10/10/2021 10:46

[quote Graphista]@HannaHanna clearly (not seeing it same way)

Inc "everyone was still awake" not everyone watches footie funnily enough not even that match. I don't, my parents aren't footie watchers I know plenty of people who wouldn't have been watching

[/quote]
@Graphista, I did not write “everyone was still awake”.

Are you inventing quotes now?

And the OP was still awake.

HannaHanna · 10/10/2021 10:48

@JustRambling

Ok, well.

Quire · 10/10/2021 10:52

I’m still intrigued by the number of people on his thread who would apparently greet a request for help from a friend of more than 20 years with a huffy list of all the reasons the friend should not be asking for said help, and how outrageous it was that she didn’t organise herself better or do all the other things that would have meant she didn’t have to ask for the help in the first place.

HannaHanna · 10/10/2021 11:07

@Quire

I’m still intrigued by the number of people on his thread who would apparently greet a request for help from a friend of more than 20 years with a huffy list of all the reasons the friend should not be asking for said help, and how outrageous it was that she didn’t organise herself better or do all the other things that would have meant she didn’t have to ask for the help in the first place.
I am with you. In a pandemic. With that particular product listed as difficult hard to on the shelves due to covid.

Also amazed by the people that insist the friend is a user and telling the OP to end the friendship over this. We have zero examples of the friend being a user.

HannaHanna · 10/10/2021 11:08

*I meant due to brexit/supply chain issues.

Merryoldgoat · 10/10/2021 11:43

@Quire

I know - if a friend texted me that they’d kid was unwell I’d drop the medicine over in my nightie.

pelosi · 10/10/2021 11:44

She definitely wanted you to drop the Calpol to hers.

She’s got used to you doing her favours and not expecting any back.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Block and delete the twat.

pelosi · 10/10/2021 11:45

[quote Merryoldgoat]@Quire

I know - if a friend texted me that they’d kid was unwell I’d drop the medicine over in my nightie.[/quote]
This is laughable. This woman has a husband, and yet it’s a woman’s job to help her 😂🙄

Cornettoninja · 10/10/2021 11:46

@Quire

I’m still intrigued by the number of people on his thread who would apparently greet a request for help from a friend of more than 20 years with a huffy list of all the reasons the friend should not be asking for said help, and how outrageous it was that she didn’t organise herself better or do all the other things that would have meant she didn’t have to ask for the help in the first place.
I maintain that a certain amount of (very mild) huffiness over the original scenario isn’t disproportionate but in fairness it’s the friend who blew it up into a massive friendship-ending drama by sending a snidey emails with lots of irrelevant (to the calpol situation) snipes at OP. She’s made it very clear that if the OP isn’t prepared to be a ‘drop everything’ kind of friend then she’s no friend at all. Everything else she can offer as a friend has no value to this woman apparently and her friendship is only there if someone is of use to her. That’s a user.
Butterfly44 · 10/10/2021 11:47

You offered to leave it on the doorstep.... I really don't see anything wrong with that? That's perfect...let's you get in with sleeping and her picking it up. Can't get more supportive than that to be fair

Cornettoninja · 10/10/2021 11:47

Sorry, I meant to quote @HannaHanna

I am with you. In a pandemic. With that particular product listed as difficult hard to on the shelves due to covid

Also amazed by the people that insist the friend is a user and telling the OP to end the friendship over this. We have zero examples of the friend being a user

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