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AIBU to not help my friend?

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OpalSky · 09/10/2021 09:17

This happened last July, but I haven’t had time to think properly about it until recently when I asked friends for advice. It would help me to understand from seeing other peoples opinions on here.

Some background: I have a friend and we have been friends for over 20 years and we live near each other. We both have kids. She works full time, I am a SAHM. I help people when I can, but I don’t like to ask for favours if I can do something myself and only ask as a last resort should I need help. She is the opposite and likes to ask for help when needs it and I don’t mind helping when I can.

It was the night of the Euro final. Her 10 year old son had a fever before the match. She let him stay up and they all watched the football and it didn’t finish until gone 11pm. She then discovered her Calpol had expired. I was in bed about to go sleep when she text and asked if I had Calpol. At this point it was near midnight. I said ‘you weren’t thinking of coming round were you, as I am about to go sleep.’ She said well he has got a temperature. I said ‘it’s probably best he goes sleep, but I can leave Calpol on the doorstep if you want to come and collect’. She said no thanks. And that’s what has annoyed her.

She wrote me an email saying she was hurt and disappointed in me. She was angry that I said her son will be fine if he just goes to sleep, and she was angry I said I was about to go sleep and you were not thinking of coming round were you. She said a friend is someone you can count on and is always there for you and that it’s a two way relationship. I apologised as I didn’t mean it in an insensitive way and in no way was I meaning to be unsympathetic.

So we met up, she said she knew I hadn’t intended to hurt her with the words I used, but that I crossed the line in not being there in her hour of need. Her son was fine the next day without any Calpol that night. She said ‘does it matter that it wasn’t an emergency, you weren’t there for me in my hour of need.’ She said she would do ‘anything for my kids’. Now she has not done anything in particular to help with my kids in the past as I never like to ask for help unless I really need it.

Then she bought up the time I didn’t agree to be emergency contact for the school for her kids. She asked me this years ago, but has obviously held resentment in me as she kept mentioning it. She said ‘what harm would it have done to have picked up my son in that rare chance’. She was quite upset about this. She said ‘friend A’ agreed to be emergency contact. She said ‘so far she has been a good friend.’

She then went on to say to me: ‘I don’t know anything about you. I still don’t know what you do all day while the kids are at school’. I was quite shocked she could say something like that as I have never judged her in that way for working full time. I felt like she was judging me for being a SAHM.

When I got home that day I started writing an email back to her explaining how I felt. But before I could finish the email she wrote to say I don’t think we can be close friends anymore as she said we have different ideas of what a friendship is.

In the end I did send a long email back saying yes we are different and she has certain needs and expectations from a friendship, and when she doesn’t get those needs met she gets disappointed. I told her that I felt I should have the right to say no to being emergency contact for her kids, but that she didn’t respect my right to say no.

I felt like she doesn’t consider me at all, it’s all about her needs and no consideration for my needs or feelings at all.

No response back from her.

I feel used and because she hasn’t even bothered to respond, I feel like she has never considered this a two way relationship. It’s never been about my feelings and having two way communication. It’s all about her or nothing.

YANBU-I should put closure to this friendship, she has been using me

YABU-I have been a bad friend and I need to learn to help friends in need

OP posts:
Lifeinthescratcher · 09/10/2021 14:28

Ex friend text me once asking for help when her dd was vomiting! There was no way I was going over to help. A why? B I didnt want to carch itHmm

MyPatronusIsACat · 09/10/2021 14:30

@SixTwirlingTutus

some people are very good at getting others to run around them like blue arsed flies. Looks like she is one of those people and you have simply decided not to play the game.

I think you have had a lucky escape.

This. ^ I have known a few people like this sadly. Cheeky fuckers and users.

A new neighbour moved opposite us a year ago, and I said hello, and gave her a 'welcome to your new home' card. Apparently, me being polite translated to her as me being a mug, a doormat, and a fucking patsy. She confused being polite and welcoming with being weak, and being a doormat.

She kept asking me to do things for her, and although I did help for the first 4 or 5 times, I could see that she was fast becoming a user, and a cheeky fucker. One of those people who always asks you to do stuff, but will NEVER do anything for you.

The final straw came some 3 months after she moved in. A courier knocked our door, and said 'can you take this package for No 15 - which was her... (I am number 14 opposite her.) I saw her car was there, and I said 'but she is in. Is she not answering?' It was 10am, but she was still in bed. She just couldn't be arsed to come to the door!

Turns out she had nominated ME, as a drop off point, if she wasn't in, or didn't answer. I thought 'fuck that for a game of soldiers! I am not taking peoples shit in and having it hanging around my house until they can be arsed to collect it, just because they can't be fucked to answer the door!'

I told the courier to take my name off the 'drop off at this neighbour' list, as I am often out/at work/busy etc, and will often not answer. AND I don't want to be responsible for this woman's stuff. I said, 'I hardly know her. And she didn't even ASK me!'

He said he will delete me, and tell her that I have told him it's a bit awkward for me to be the neighbour that accepts her parcels! She now uses her next door neighbour at number 13! She still speaks, so I don't think she was bothered, but I see the woman at No 13 CONSTANTLY going around to No 15 now with parcels, boxes, and all sorts. Yet I have never seen the woman at No 15 go around to no 13, to get her own parcels! So she has found her patsy! Someone who sadly wasn't strong enough to refuse.

As I said, there are LOADS of people like this!

@OpalSky I would give your 'friend' a wide berth, and cut her loose....

Quire · 09/10/2021 14:31

@OpalSky

One time I arranged a PlayDate with our kids. My child had just recently recovered from chickenpox. My child was past the infectious stage. At the last minute she declined the arrangement as she didn’t want to risk her children catching chicken pox.

But yet she was upset that I didn’t agree to be emergency contact for collecting her ill child.

I don’t see the relationship between the two circumstances. She was being cautious about her child catching an illness that can be really unpleasant — a child in DS’s class ended up in hospital with ulcerated pox on her eyeballs. But I don’t see why that’s relevant to whether or you would agree to being emergency contact for her child if you’re not at work in the daytime. For a year I was on sabbatical and WFH, I was emergency contact for two children in DS’s class because they both worked at a distance and I lived close to the school. I never had to pick up either of them. They returned the favour when on maternity leave, and one had to pick up DS twice.

You must have a fairly transactional attitude to friendship if you really think ‘You cancelled a play date so I won’t be your emergency contact.’

OpalSky · 09/10/2021 14:32

I just think it’s double standards how she would turn down a play date because of the chance of her kids catching chickenpox. But for her she wants me to be emergency contact. Say I had to pick up her child who had for example the vomiting bug, then there is a chance I would be passing on the bug to my kids from picking up the child and taking him to my home.

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Cuddlemuffin · 09/10/2021 14:33

You've out grown this friendship. It's sad when long friendships like this end but often for the best. I can only see this getting worse x

user1471538283 · 09/10/2021 14:35

She has a husband at home, he could have gone to the store. Surely her husband or parent would be an emergency contact. She needs to grow up.

You've got enough on with your own family. I wouldnt waste another second with her.

Quire · 09/10/2021 14:41

@user1471538283

She has a husband at home, he could have gone to the store. Surely her husband or parent would be an emergency contact. She needs to grow up.

You've got enough on with your own family. I wouldnt waste another second with her.

I assume by ‘emergency contact’ in this case is meant someone other than both parents, who are obviously first port of call. When DH and I were both working a long way from the school, the designated contact — after school had contacted us to say why he needed collecting — was our childminder who’d looked after DS since he was a baby, took him for wraparound care and lived two minutes from the school. I don’t think she ever had to pick him up. It was just a precaution in case we were unable to drop everything immediately.
dottiedodah · 09/10/2021 14:43

I think you are probably best off nor being friends TBH.I would have just said as above PP did ,that I would leave it in the step for her.As far as being an emergency contact, I have done this for friends and they for me as well.My youngest DS was still at School when my DM was ill and died later .FIL was 20 miles away and in his 80s! Maybe leave her to her friends and you to yours

WakeMeUpin22 · 09/10/2021 14:45

Your friendship was all based on take and no give. She sounds incredibly self absorbed "me me me" "why aren't you helping ME" "How dare YOU sleep when I NEED calpol"
Good Riddance.

OpalSky · 09/10/2021 14:45

@Quire-that’s not the point I was trying to get across.

Its not the ‘You cancelled a play date so I won’t be your emergency contact’. I accepted her decision to not have the play date. But why does she not respect my decision to not be emergency contact? Everyone is entitled to say no should they not wish to do something. But she held resentment in me having boundaries.

OP posts:
QueenBee52 · 09/10/2021 14:47

Ditch the psychotic bitch ☺️

Quire · 09/10/2021 14:56

[quote OpalSky]@Quire-that’s not the point I was trying to get across.

Its not the ‘You cancelled a play date so I won’t be your emergency contact’. I accepted her decision to not have the play date. But why does she not respect my decision to not be emergency contact? Everyone is entitled to say no should they not wish to do something. But she held resentment in me having boundaries.[/quote]
But your reply suggests my point is true — you have a transactional view of this friendship, and seem to be keeping some kind of mental tally of ‘She didn’t do X, so I won’t do Y.’

You say this person is a friend of more than 20 years. One of the people whose daughter I was emergency contact for I didn’t particularly like and didn’t know very well, but she was a medic who couldn’t walk off a shift if her daughter needed picking up mid-morning, and her DH (whom I did like) was a cop who also did odd shifts — and I was right nearby and knew it was quite unlikely I’d ever have to get the little girl.

Oldraver · 09/10/2021 14:59

I bet she had she been drinking so was expecting you to run round there with the Calpol. Anyway at that age he could of had half a tablet.

You are better off without her

DariaMorgendorffer · 09/10/2021 15:06

Can't add much more to what has been said already op, so let me just say YANBU.

Hawkins001 · 09/10/2021 15:09

@QueenBee52

Ditch the psychotic bitch ☺️
in my experience id ask if it is possible that sometimes not everyone is logical and that they dont always see the other sides perspectives and points so to speak. ?
Hawkins001 · 09/10/2021 15:09

wrong person to quote

Hawkins001 · 09/10/2021 15:10

[quote OpalSky]@Quire-that’s not the point I was trying to get across.

Its not the ‘You cancelled a play date so I won’t be your emergency contact’. I accepted her decision to not have the play date. But why does she not respect my decision to not be emergency contact? Everyone is entitled to say no should they not wish to do something. But she held resentment in me having boundaries.[/quote]
in my experience id ask if it is possible that sometimes not everyone is logical and that they dont always see the other sides perspectives and points so to speak. ?

chaosrabbitland · 09/10/2021 15:17

i think shes made her choice , shes not too fussed or she would have responded and whilst it may be hurtful for you , theres nothing you can do if shes just simply not interested in replying to your email . she does sound a tad expectant , she does seem to be of the opinion that she works full time and is very busy whilst obviously thinking you have loads of free time on your hands ,and therefore you should put yourself out for her more , it is what it is and it happened quite a while ago now so theres no point dwelling on it

Fifthtimelucky · 09/10/2021 15:20

I think the calpol thing was ridiculous. She had plenty of other options. However, if I'd been your friend I'd have been very disappointed that you hadn't agreed to be the emergency contact for school, given that you'd been friends for 20 years.

When I went back to work, my stay-at-home neighbour who had children the same age agreed to be an emergency contact even though we had only known each other for two years. I definitely needed one as it took me (and my husband) at least 90 minutes to get home from work and our nearest relatives were further away than that.

Cascascascas · 09/10/2021 15:21

@OpalSky

I would take pictures if the feed back here and mail it to her

Notaroadrunner · 09/10/2021 15:34

Bloody hell. Two resident parents in London with a car at 11pm can’t organise Calpol or other pain relief for a child who’s been ill all day. She’s thoroughly unreasonable and you’re better off without that ‘friendship’.

I agree. I wouldn't bother contacting her again.

HannaHanna · 09/10/2021 15:49

@Quire. That’s exactly my take. Emergency means neither parent can be reached. Very unlikely to ever get a call.

Is it really such an imposition to put the calpol on the porch? Would that even take 5 minutes? Instead OP is second guessing her friend on every level. Why she didn’t give it earlier, why he needs it now, why she can’t go get it at the store instead of her front porch.

Everyone here banging on about the friend being a user - there is zero evidence of that. There is evidence that OP doesn’t want to go even to her own front porch on behalf of a friend of 20 years.

Someone is fortunate to be out of this friendship. It’s not OP.

May you never need a thing from anyone OP.

HannaHanna · 09/10/2021 15:53

@Fifthtimelucky

I think the calpol thing was ridiculous. She had plenty of other options. However, if I'd been your friend I'd have been very disappointed that you hadn't agreed to be the emergency contact for school, given that you'd been friends for 20 years.

When I went back to work, my stay-at-home neighbour who had children the same age agreed to be an emergency contact even though we had only known each other for two years. I definitely needed one as it took me (and my husband) at least 90 minutes to get home from work and our nearest relatives were further away than that.

The friend didn’t say “could you drive over here with your calpol and administer it to my child and stay awake with him while I sleep.” She asked if she had some. None of us knows where they live in relationship to the nearest 24 hour pharmacy. None of us knows how sick he was when the game began, right? Plenty of us wait a few hours to see if medicine is required instead of starting it right away. Obviously he’s not frequently I’ll if the calpol was expired. Not all of us check my medications regularly to see if they are still good.
OpalSky · 09/10/2021 16:04

@HannaHanna-I did offer to leave her Calpol on the doorstep

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WildfirePonie · 09/10/2021 16:27

Oh ho.. I bet she expected you to get up and deliver your Calpol to her on a silver platter!

Good riddance!

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