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H and prostitutes

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Ihatevegetables · 01/10/2021 18:14

I want to start this by saying it is probably going to be a long thread, so thank you to those who bear with me and read the whole thing.

My H has always had a strange relationship with sex. We have been together 9 years (no kids) and our sex life has never been what I hoped it would be. The sex is great when we actually do it, however H very rarely initiates and when I initiate, he often says he is too tired. We have gone months at a time without having sex. Over the years I have tried initating myself, calmly explaining to H how important sex is in a marriage and how it makes me insecure and crying and saying that this issue could end our marriage. He always agrees and promises to make more of an effort but after a week or so it goes back to normal.
H is honestly the best husband you could ask for. He has supported me financially and emotionally for 8 years, often to his own detriment, and has continually supported me with my own mental health issues. I have not been an easy person to be with at times. He puts me first in every single way, never gets angry, and truly loves me. I have no doubt of this. He has always been the 'perfect' one, whether it's as a husband, friend or family member. He is a genuinely nice man. However, he had a very fractured childhood and is his own harshest critic, he cannot tolerate himself being anything less than perfect. A few years ago we had just stopped doing long distance and I saw a message on his phone to a friend of his (sent during our time apart) that said he had brought two women back to his flat after a night out. I hit the roof and his explanation was that he had been trying to fit in with a 'laddish' group of friends he had made and had sent the message drunkenly, with no truth to it. I believed him as I do see that he constantly strives to fit in.
Fast forward to last night. We had friends round for drinks and something one of them said (nothing to do with women) raised alarm bells. It strongly implied he had lied about something in order to impress them. This has happened once before and I let it go, however something just didn't sit right and (I'm ashamed to admit) I looked at his phone when he was sleeping. I found numerous whatsapp messages to prostitute hotlines (we live in a country where this is sadly accessable) basically asking for sexual services. In some of the messages he has bartered the price, stated that he would like a discount as he 'had this one before' and has asked for photos of the different women to be sent to him. There are also messages saying he is 'ten minutes away' and asking for their location etc. He lost his wedding ring on a night out about six weeks ago and I saw one message saying that he thinks he left his grandfathers ring at the location the night before and could they please check. I was absolutely heartbroken and confronted him. He completely broke down and eventually explained everything. He found this mortifying as it was a crack in his 'perfect' facade. He said that he sends these messages to different companies when he is very drunk as he is seeking a thrill. When I asked him about why he would need directions etc and why he had asked about his wedding ring, for the former he said that they only send pictures if you confirm you are on your way and for the latter he said that he had panicked the next morning and messaged everyone, including the friends he had been out with, without thinking. He said that he has always had an issue with sex and he is very much 'in his own head', I know this is true and knowing him for 9 years, I can genuinely believe that this is a fantasy he is acting out instead of something he would act on. He was absolutely adamant that he has never actually slept with or met any of these women and never would.

I feel oddly calm, and part of me was almost relieved that this man I had felt for years was too good for me, also had flaws. I am a naturally very suspicious person but I do genuinely believe that he hasnt acted on these fantasies. What I can't get my head around is that our lack of sex over the years has really dented my confidence and caused (the only) major issue in our marriage. I also have spent years thinking he is perfect and too good for me and been completely open with him about my own flaws, and I feel like this has been a lie.

Am I crazy for believing him? If I choose to believe that this is all a fantasy, would anyone else view this as being a flaw that they are willing to overlook (provided it never happens again,) and deem it not that big a deal? I don't know how to feel except that I overreacted, as he is saying that as he never did and never would act on it, it's just a stupid thing he does when very drunk. He also says that he is so ashamed of himself that no matter how angry I am at him, he will always hate himself more. I told him that I forgave him and that we can move on, however he said it didnt matter if I forgave him, he could never forgive himself and I do believe this (ties into him being his own harshest critic).

I'm sorry for this long post, but I feel very confused and I really need some perspective on this. I have certainly made mistakes over the years, like developing a crush on a work colleague (I never acted on it and I think it was due to the lack of sexual attention from H) however I have never cheated on H.

OP posts:
Noogar · 01/10/2021 18:17

Yeah he's lying

CuriousBogInTheNight · 01/10/2021 18:18

Sorry but I think he's been seeing them. The ring message kind of gives it away...
You could get proof of this by checking if he did indeed send messages to everyone he knows at the same time. But I think you know he didn't.

Lex345 · 01/10/2021 18:19

I feel so sorry for you OP. But I am afraid the evidence really speaks for itself doesn't it.

Are you able to get yourself a check up for STDs as I think this needs to be priority number one.

steff13 · 01/10/2021 18:19

I wouldn't believe him as far as I could throw him. This would be it for me.

RandomMess · 01/10/2021 18:20

He doesn't have much sec with you because he prefers what he does with the prostitutes he uses.

dreamingbohemian · 01/10/2021 18:23

OP you sound like a very nice person but you would be absolutely insane to believe him, I'm sorry

No one accidentally whatsapps a prostitute they never saw and asks them to look for his wedding ring, come on

jeannie46 · 01/10/2021 18:25

He's been lying to you - for years and years.

Lampzade · 01/10/2021 18:27

He’s definitely lying.
He has obviously been using prostitutes which is why he has no need to initiate sex with you

mushforbrain · 01/10/2021 18:27

Whatever his issues are with sex with you, with his need to impress, with his need to look ‘perfect’, he has definitely cheated on you with prostitutes. Forget about everything else, that is what he has done. And even if you truly believe that it’s a fantasy that he doesn’t actually act on, you will never ever trust him again.

LaurieFairyCake · 01/10/2021 18:27

Yes he has been with prostituted women

Or he wouldn't be asking if he left things there

He has deceived you hugely and is continuing to deceive you

Leave him Thanks - he will just get better at covering his tracks

AnyFucker · 01/10/2021 18:30

can genuinely believe that this is a fantasy he is acting out instead of something he would act on

Yeah you are crazy to believe him. He is shagging you only under sufferance because he prefers prostitutes. I am sorry but you need to wake up sharpish.

ThinWomansBrain · 01/10/2021 18:31

Am I crazy for believing him?

yes

ItsAllBlahBlahBlah · 01/10/2021 18:33

Wow. Sorry OP but I agree. The chances of this being true must be rather slim. Only you can really know him but the fact you're asking probably means there's an element of doubt. I think if I saw those messages I wouldn't even question if he had done it. Really sorry OP

RugCarpet22 · 01/10/2021 18:33

Sorry, he is definitely lying. And as long as he keeps lying, there's no way forward.

Holskey · 01/10/2021 18:33

Based on what you've written , your marriage is a shame, you don't know your husband, and he does not love you as you deserve.

I'm really sorry. You seem nice. Leave.

Holskey · 01/10/2021 18:34

Sham* not shame. Sorry

Babdoc · 01/10/2021 18:34

I agree with all the PPs, of course he has actually been using prostitutes.
He may be avoiding sex with you in case he passes on a STD, but I think it more likely that he has a madonna/whore complex.
If he strives to be “perfect”, he possibly sees sex as something dirty, only to be engaged in with prostitutes, and has difficulty performing with his clean idealised partner.
Personally, I would be leaving this relationship pronto, via the STD clinic for an urgent health screen.

Anon778833 · 01/10/2021 18:35

He's lying.

He is not the best husband you could ask for because he's unavailable for the intimacy that you need.

In your situation with no kids involved I'd be right out if there.

Find someone who doesn't cheat on you with hookers.

samwitwicky · 01/10/2021 18:36

He's lying.

Please get yourself tested.

I suggest he do the same.

Thetruthfairy · 01/10/2021 18:36

Oh gosh op, I'm sorry.. of course he is lying x

Anon778833 · 01/10/2021 18:36

Also, do you want to be with a man who thinks that it's fine to buy access to women's bodies.

notanothertakeaway · 01/10/2021 18:38

Sorry, but his story just doesn't ring true at all

What you do with this info is up to you, but please be honest with yourself

SpinningWheelOfFortune · 01/10/2021 18:39

I'm really sorry, he's lying, you deserve much better, he is in no way too good for you, he just wants you to feel that way.

Divebar2021 · 01/10/2021 18:39

So I’m confused. If he never met up with any of them why would he be asking about his wedding ring? Has he explained that?

BarryTheKestrel · 01/10/2021 18:39

I agree with the above OP. You seem lovely but you are sorely mistaken if you believe he isn't sleeping with the prostitutes.