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H and prostitutes

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Ihatevegetables · 01/10/2021 18:14

I want to start this by saying it is probably going to be a long thread, so thank you to those who bear with me and read the whole thing.

My H has always had a strange relationship with sex. We have been together 9 years (no kids) and our sex life has never been what I hoped it would be. The sex is great when we actually do it, however H very rarely initiates and when I initiate, he often says he is too tired. We have gone months at a time without having sex. Over the years I have tried initating myself, calmly explaining to H how important sex is in a marriage and how it makes me insecure and crying and saying that this issue could end our marriage. He always agrees and promises to make more of an effort but after a week or so it goes back to normal.
H is honestly the best husband you could ask for. He has supported me financially and emotionally for 8 years, often to his own detriment, and has continually supported me with my own mental health issues. I have not been an easy person to be with at times. He puts me first in every single way, never gets angry, and truly loves me. I have no doubt of this. He has always been the 'perfect' one, whether it's as a husband, friend or family member. He is a genuinely nice man. However, he had a very fractured childhood and is his own harshest critic, he cannot tolerate himself being anything less than perfect. A few years ago we had just stopped doing long distance and I saw a message on his phone to a friend of his (sent during our time apart) that said he had brought two women back to his flat after a night out. I hit the roof and his explanation was that he had been trying to fit in with a 'laddish' group of friends he had made and had sent the message drunkenly, with no truth to it. I believed him as I do see that he constantly strives to fit in.
Fast forward to last night. We had friends round for drinks and something one of them said (nothing to do with women) raised alarm bells. It strongly implied he had lied about something in order to impress them. This has happened once before and I let it go, however something just didn't sit right and (I'm ashamed to admit) I looked at his phone when he was sleeping. I found numerous whatsapp messages to prostitute hotlines (we live in a country where this is sadly accessable) basically asking for sexual services. In some of the messages he has bartered the price, stated that he would like a discount as he 'had this one before' and has asked for photos of the different women to be sent to him. There are also messages saying he is 'ten minutes away' and asking for their location etc. He lost his wedding ring on a night out about six weeks ago and I saw one message saying that he thinks he left his grandfathers ring at the location the night before and could they please check. I was absolutely heartbroken and confronted him. He completely broke down and eventually explained everything. He found this mortifying as it was a crack in his 'perfect' facade. He said that he sends these messages to different companies when he is very drunk as he is seeking a thrill. When I asked him about why he would need directions etc and why he had asked about his wedding ring, for the former he said that they only send pictures if you confirm you are on your way and for the latter he said that he had panicked the next morning and messaged everyone, including the friends he had been out with, without thinking. He said that he has always had an issue with sex and he is very much 'in his own head', I know this is true and knowing him for 9 years, I can genuinely believe that this is a fantasy he is acting out instead of something he would act on. He was absolutely adamant that he has never actually slept with or met any of these women and never would.

I feel oddly calm, and part of me was almost relieved that this man I had felt for years was too good for me, also had flaws. I am a naturally very suspicious person but I do genuinely believe that he hasnt acted on these fantasies. What I can't get my head around is that our lack of sex over the years has really dented my confidence and caused (the only) major issue in our marriage. I also have spent years thinking he is perfect and too good for me and been completely open with him about my own flaws, and I feel like this has been a lie.

Am I crazy for believing him? If I choose to believe that this is all a fantasy, would anyone else view this as being a flaw that they are willing to overlook (provided it never happens again,) and deem it not that big a deal? I don't know how to feel except that I overreacted, as he is saying that as he never did and never would act on it, it's just a stupid thing he does when very drunk. He also says that he is so ashamed of himself that no matter how angry I am at him, he will always hate himself more. I told him that I forgave him and that we can move on, however he said it didnt matter if I forgave him, he could never forgive himself and I do believe this (ties into him being his own harshest critic).

I'm sorry for this long post, but I feel very confused and I really need some perspective on this. I have certainly made mistakes over the years, like developing a crush on a work colleague (I never acted on it and I think it was due to the lack of sexual attention from H) however I have never cheated on H.

OP posts:
SmellyOldOwls · 01/10/2021 18:54

@Prettybubblesintheair

He is 100% lying. You have to prove you’re on your way before they’ll send photos? Absolute bollocks. I hope you don’t believe him.
Yeah if it were me I'd get WhatsApp them myself to prove this is bollocks.
JasonMomoasgirlfriend · 01/10/2021 18:56

You'd be an absolute fool to believe him op.

I'm sorry but he really is lying through his teeth.
Even the txt about bringing the women back...he did.

Come on, open your eyes.

IrishMel · 01/10/2021 18:57

He has cheated and paid for it which I could never forgive as this is truly disgusting. Why would he be messaging them to see if they had his ring. There is all the evidence you need. He has a weird view of women and sex and seems like he needs prostitutes to fulfil his needs. You really deserve better than this and what else is he hiding. Why does he drink so much also? is this not a big problem in your marriage as well. I could not stay with someone who has no respect for women and you need to think more highly of yourself and end this relationship as he will say all the right things to you but he will not change.

Helenahandkart · 01/10/2021 18:57

Is there any way you can check his finances? Prostitutes cost money.
It seems very clear to me that he’s lying, but when you’re in the middle of a situation like this things are not so clear cut, so you need evidence to help you make sense of it.
He may have a secret bank account, in which case it wouldn’t be easy to check, but I would definitely be asking for full access to all his accounts including PayPal etc to see whether any regular payments coincide with the wedding ring message.
I’m sorry OP. Undoubtedly he has been using prostitutes. I hope that you can find some proof to help you accept it so that you can decide whether this is something that you can tolerate within your relationship.

Twitchynose · 01/10/2021 18:58

Sorry, OP. I’m in agreement with everyone else. He’s trying to justify his behaviour without admitting that he has been sleeping with prostitutes. It must be incredibly hard for you to hear that though. If you truly believed him, you wouldn’t be posting on here. I hope you have friends and family nearby that can support you to rid this lying git from your life. You are worth so so much more than this.

NotSoNewAndShiny · 01/10/2021 18:58

From experience, the root problem I have with this is that he sounds like a consistent liar and will always dodge the bullet with more lies. Very hard to catch or believe such a person without hard proof.

jeannie46 · 01/10/2021 18:58

He's an amoral, accomplished confidence trickster with criminal tendencies ( using prostitutes).

His friends are like him no doubt - birds of a feather flocking together. Can you stomach this half-life, half-underworld, half a marriage world?

If you have higher standards (and you have surely) you have to leave before you have a family with this creep and are trapped into having him as a role model for your sons.

Notimeforaname · 01/10/2021 18:58

He's cheating on you with prostitutes . Please don't believe that tripe he told you. Come on.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 01/10/2021 18:59

Every man who gets caught having messaged prostitutes said they did it for the thrill.

Every man who gets caught having actually visited a prostitute says it was the first time.

All those men are absolute bullshitters.

At BEST he has sexually rejected you consistently while habitually messaging other women, bragging about bringing women home and generally having no respect for women.

He was absolutely adamant that he has never actually slept with or met any of these women and never would.

He's a liar.

Monr0e · 01/10/2021 18:59

Bollocks.
He also brought 2 women back to his flat.

CherryRipe1 · 01/10/2021 19:00

He could well be fixated with prostitutes but more in a wanky stalker timewasterish way & not actually do anything. There are alot of these about. Then again many men in relationships visit "working" girls (& boys) or have specific kinks or needs that the ladies will meet. Sorry you are upset, hope you can resolve it.

SummerHouse · 01/10/2021 19:00

OP, if you lost your wedding ring, who would you text and what would you call it?

You would call it your wedding ring and text people you had been with.

No one on god's green earth would accidentally text a prostitute they had only previously messaged.

I am so sorry. Men like this are very good at track covering.

Notimeforaname · 01/10/2021 19:03

For the photos 'only if you are on your way' ...this is a really shit lie.. its literally the first thing he could think of. He must actually think you are a gullible moron.

He didn't see them..never went to see them but he thought he lost his ring there..Hmm. Jeeeesus.

Come on op.

He was texting around all of his friends looking for the ring and checked with the prostitutes even though he's never been ?

If this wasn't someone's real life, I would laugh.
Please open you eyes.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 01/10/2021 19:03

Normally I like to give the benefit of the doubt in these situations.

But anyone in a jury would believe he was guilty OP.

He doesn't want sex with you because he wants it with prostitutes. Classic madonna whore complex. If he wanted a 'thrill' when he was drunk he could have initiated something with his wife.

It's the flimsiest excuse I've ever heard. Bartering a price down because you've done that before isnt idle curiosity or a thrill. Its the nitty gritty of practical arrangements. Messaging everyone he knows, did you get the same message? Did everyone else? Of course not.

STI check, see a solicitor, make plans to leave. Don't talk to him about any of it as you cant trust yourself to be objective when it comes to him and you will end up screwed over

Notimeforaname · 01/10/2021 19:03

Your*

Helpimfalling · 01/10/2021 19:04

I'm so sorry but imagine I was telling you the same story about me

It's a crock of shit

toocold54 · 01/10/2021 19:05

Wow. He doesn't even have the decency to be honest with you, so he's going to gaslight you instead.

This!!

He lied to you about bringing women back to his flat and now he’s lying to you about prostitutes even though there is proof! He is taking you for a mug! I can only imagine what else he has done and obviously his friends must all know too.

Honestly OP I know this is hard to digest but please stop letting him walk all over you! Tell him he needs to tell you the truth or you are leaving today.

EishetChayil · 01/10/2021 19:05

His excuses are pathetic.

Notimeforaname · 01/10/2021 19:06

STI check, see a solicitor, make plans to leave. Don't talk to him about any of it as you cant trust yourself to be objective when it comes to him and you will end up screwed over
If you take anything from the responses here today, take this. And run

Bunnyfuller · 01/10/2021 19:07

He’s lying.

seven201 · 01/10/2021 19:07

Reread your post whilst trying to imagine it's not about you and your dh. He is so clearly lying. The messages on their own are enough but he also messaged looking for his lost ring. He is grasping at straws hoping you'll continue to choose to blind yourself to his infidelity. Please open your eyes and accept that he is not who you thought he was at all. I'm sorry, I can't imagine how you must be feeling right now. You will get through this, cling on to that.

NotSoNewAndShiny · 01/10/2021 19:08

Someone like this, you'd literally have to catch him in the act for him to 'fess up. Even then, he may try out some more lies if he can get away with it.

godmum56 · 01/10/2021 19:08

I think he may well be lying but I don't think it matters. You haven't got the intimate partnership that you want or you deserve and lets be honest its not gonna happen. Don't waste your time.

Pinklioness · 01/10/2021 19:09

@Babdoc

I agree with all the PPs, of course he has actually been using prostitutes. He may be avoiding sex with you in case he passes on a STD, but I think it more likely that he has a madonna/whore complex. If he strives to be “perfect”, he possibly sees sex as something dirty, only to be engaged in with prostitutes, and has difficulty performing with his clean idealised partner. Personally, I would be leaving this relationship pronto, via the STD clinic for an urgent health screen.
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Keke94LND · 01/10/2021 19:10

He's definitely lying, why would he call your wedding ring his grandfathers ring if he was just 'messaging everybody include his friends he had been out with' ?