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H and prostitutes

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Ihatevegetables · 01/10/2021 18:14

I want to start this by saying it is probably going to be a long thread, so thank you to those who bear with me and read the whole thing.

My H has always had a strange relationship with sex. We have been together 9 years (no kids) and our sex life has never been what I hoped it would be. The sex is great when we actually do it, however H very rarely initiates and when I initiate, he often says he is too tired. We have gone months at a time without having sex. Over the years I have tried initating myself, calmly explaining to H how important sex is in a marriage and how it makes me insecure and crying and saying that this issue could end our marriage. He always agrees and promises to make more of an effort but after a week or so it goes back to normal.
H is honestly the best husband you could ask for. He has supported me financially and emotionally for 8 years, often to his own detriment, and has continually supported me with my own mental health issues. I have not been an easy person to be with at times. He puts me first in every single way, never gets angry, and truly loves me. I have no doubt of this. He has always been the 'perfect' one, whether it's as a husband, friend or family member. He is a genuinely nice man. However, he had a very fractured childhood and is his own harshest critic, he cannot tolerate himself being anything less than perfect. A few years ago we had just stopped doing long distance and I saw a message on his phone to a friend of his (sent during our time apart) that said he had brought two women back to his flat after a night out. I hit the roof and his explanation was that he had been trying to fit in with a 'laddish' group of friends he had made and had sent the message drunkenly, with no truth to it. I believed him as I do see that he constantly strives to fit in.
Fast forward to last night. We had friends round for drinks and something one of them said (nothing to do with women) raised alarm bells. It strongly implied he had lied about something in order to impress them. This has happened once before and I let it go, however something just didn't sit right and (I'm ashamed to admit) I looked at his phone when he was sleeping. I found numerous whatsapp messages to prostitute hotlines (we live in a country where this is sadly accessable) basically asking for sexual services. In some of the messages he has bartered the price, stated that he would like a discount as he 'had this one before' and has asked for photos of the different women to be sent to him. There are also messages saying he is 'ten minutes away' and asking for their location etc. He lost his wedding ring on a night out about six weeks ago and I saw one message saying that he thinks he left his grandfathers ring at the location the night before and could they please check. I was absolutely heartbroken and confronted him. He completely broke down and eventually explained everything. He found this mortifying as it was a crack in his 'perfect' facade. He said that he sends these messages to different companies when he is very drunk as he is seeking a thrill. When I asked him about why he would need directions etc and why he had asked about his wedding ring, for the former he said that they only send pictures if you confirm you are on your way and for the latter he said that he had panicked the next morning and messaged everyone, including the friends he had been out with, without thinking. He said that he has always had an issue with sex and he is very much 'in his own head', I know this is true and knowing him for 9 years, I can genuinely believe that this is a fantasy he is acting out instead of something he would act on. He was absolutely adamant that he has never actually slept with or met any of these women and never would.

I feel oddly calm, and part of me was almost relieved that this man I had felt for years was too good for me, also had flaws. I am a naturally very suspicious person but I do genuinely believe that he hasnt acted on these fantasies. What I can't get my head around is that our lack of sex over the years has really dented my confidence and caused (the only) major issue in our marriage. I also have spent years thinking he is perfect and too good for me and been completely open with him about my own flaws, and I feel like this has been a lie.

Am I crazy for believing him? If I choose to believe that this is all a fantasy, would anyone else view this as being a flaw that they are willing to overlook (provided it never happens again,) and deem it not that big a deal? I don't know how to feel except that I overreacted, as he is saying that as he never did and never would act on it, it's just a stupid thing he does when very drunk. He also says that he is so ashamed of himself that no matter how angry I am at him, he will always hate himself more. I told him that I forgave him and that we can move on, however he said it didnt matter if I forgave him, he could never forgive himself and I do believe this (ties into him being his own harshest critic).

I'm sorry for this long post, but I feel very confused and I really need some perspective on this. I have certainly made mistakes over the years, like developing a crush on a work colleague (I never acted on it and I think it was due to the lack of sexual attention from H) however I have never cheated on H.

OP posts:
Looubylou · 02/10/2021 08:05

Hi OP, I read your post yesterday, but didn't comment due to there already being endless posts pointing out the obvious to you. Your silence is disturbing, and makes me think either a) you are distressed and need support b) you are being sucked in by more of his lies or c) the post was made up. Regardless, could you let posters know you are OK.

Tsubasa1 · 02/10/2021 08:36

@Looubylou I'm also concerned, please report back OP. You sound very vulnerable. I'm in a similar position to you at the moment, husband lying over prostitutes. I think that saving the number is enough proof that they have been to one.

MegaClutterSlut · 02/10/2021 08:58

I know you love him and wouldn't think he would do that to you but he is 100% lying, it's so blatant. I don't even know how you could think he wasn't?. Without any doubts my marriage would end. You deserve so much more

DinoWoman · 02/10/2021 09:04

Run for the hills.

OneTC · 02/10/2021 09:12

Am I crazy for believing him?

Absolutely

StCharlotte · 02/10/2021 09:21

Well if he's not seeing prostitutes, then he needs to sort out his drink problem.

Either way, I'd be out of there and I can put up with a lot.

pelosi · 02/10/2021 09:23

Looks like OP has decided to keep the blinkers on.

HikingforScenery · 02/10/2021 09:44

I can’t believe he’s manipulated you into feeling sorry for him after you found out something this awful.
He’s never going to forgive himself even if you forgive him? Seriously?

whattodo2019 · 02/10/2021 09:50

OP I'm so sorry to read this. You sound so lovely. If you need to find out the truth, can you check his bank statements? Or ask him to prove to you he has t spent money on prostitutes by showing you. There is also a worry about STD if he has been having sex with other women. Stay strong, you can get through this x

CityMumma78 · 02/10/2021 10:03

He has lied and deceived you for years and he’s still lying to you now! Of course he has been regularly using prostitutes. Also this is so deep rooted he will never change! You are worth more than this Flowers

SleepingBunnies21 · 02/10/2021 10:21

The texting yes on his way to get photos- is lies.

Prostitutes have a gallery of photos on their eg adult work profiles. If potential punters wabt more photos, they are usually required to pay for them.

They'd would be no photos sent because booked a session and says he's on his way; they'd winder why he would want more photos when he'd already booked a session, plus they'd very likely not gave the time & opportunity to send him photos so close to his session (they're often working sessions back to back, punters often complain about being kept waiting etc if they over run).

If he booked a session and didn't turn up, he would be blacklisted - because he'd be wasting their time, and that session could have been booked with a punter who actually turned up and paid. Hed have to keep changing his mobile number, username etc every time if he did that because the Prostitutes and their pimps and bookers would black mark/list him.

He sent them messages saying he was in his way - because he was on his way.

Every mab caught messaging and arranging meetings with prostitutes in threads on here saud ot was just messaging, he did didn't through with it, it was just fantasy; until theyre caught out with proof it wasn't.

Hid ring story and doesbt make much sense. Did he really blanket message everyone in his WhatsApp contacts that message? Have you asked everyone in his list? Why would he call it his grandfathers ring and not his wedding ring? Why would he have taken it off? It sounds like he could gave lost it at a prostitutes place, because he frequents prostitutes places.

As a poster said, it's not necessary to take it off for prostitutes so it seems like hes cheating(or trying to) with civvies as well; and you've sen messages saying he brought women back on a night out. I thj k he's lying by claiming that was a bragging lie.

This man is not who you think he is.

Hes done a he'd mind trick on you.

You need to wake up, and fast.

SleepingBunnies21 · 02/10/2021 10:24

*jedi mind trick.

SleepingBunnies21 · 02/10/2021 10:58

Also if the messages saying he was on his way were sent to get more photos (they weren't but..) wouldn't you have expected time the request for more photos in that message or shortly after?

But it doesnt sound like you did.

Also, a punter requesting/more photos while saying he's on his way would raise immediately raised suspicions that hes going to be a no show/time waster; because who "needs" more photos after they decided to book that prostitute a d booked her? And who neds them on their way to a session?! They'd think he was bull shitting about being on his way in order to get more photos/more masturbtion material if he asked for more photos then. He not only wouldn't get more photos, hex probably have his session cancelled and be blacklisted.

I've never seen a prostitute user on uk punting once say he got more photos when he confirmed he was on his way to a session, either automatically or on request. They've already booked, it's pointless. Rhryd also usually have charged for them..They're generally dealing with traffic, parking and finding the "punt" location. The prostitutes are often in another session.

SleepingBunnies21 · 02/10/2021 11:19

None of this is your fault.

It's his character, end of story.

You've married a type of con man really.
You're not the first, abd youngest be the last.

He's clearly a habitual user of prostitutes, and evidence would point to him being a cheater too.

Don't believe these obvious lies, don't delude yourself, don't go along with this cruel farce; you'll end of mentally ill from this.

SleepingBunnies21 · 02/10/2021 11:20

(I mean a cheater with non prostitutes too; obviously using prostitutes is cheating).

MarshmallowSwede · 02/10/2021 11:24

I know bullshit when I see it. He’s lying. If my husband told me this bullshit story I would laugh. Then proceed to pack his shit and change the locks.

I would then let his parents know she’s been seeing prostitutes and had the audacity (as men often do) to tell some nonsense story about it, that I will be divorcing him, they can see their grandchild and I won’t be at the family celebrations for a while.

No way in hell would I accept this nonsense story. But I know for some, accepting a story is better than facing reality and leaving a marriage.

You have to do what you feel is best for you. For me.. I would leave.

Bywayofanupdate · 02/10/2021 11:31

Whether he's acted on them or not (he has), I would be outta there. Sorry OP 💐

Unhomme · 02/10/2021 11:34

You can't leave your ring somewhere you've never been.

So, yes, I'm afraid he's fucking prostitutes behind your back.

But you could compare his 'fantasy days' with when he was at home or away, if you really needed proof.

longwayoff · 02/10/2021 11:39

He is NOT "honestly, the best husband you could hope for". He is a deceptive liar who uses women as commodities and lies to his wife. He's appalling. Go to an STD clinic as soon as possible and get some advice on how to proceed with your life. Men who live these double lives are potentially very dangerous. Take all warnings from this thread seriously.

WhereYouLeftIt · 02/10/2021 11:46

You know he's lying to you. It's hard to accept because it means that your life with him has been one long lie, and that is a frightening and destabilising thing to accept. But accept it you mustSad.

"However, he had a very fractured childhood and is his own harshest critic, he cannot tolerate himself being anything less than perfect."
Interesting about his need to be perfect. Or rather, his need TO SEEM TO BE perfect in the eyes of others. It's all for show. You know that too, at some level - you mentioned his pefect "facade".

Maybe it stems from his "very fractured childhood", maybe it doesn't. In the long run it really doesn't matter, what matters is what he has done, and what he has done is use you to enhance himself in the eyes of others. Does he let them know ho supportive of you he is? I bet he does. He uses you to stop people asking questions and uncovering the sort of man he really is.

Maybe he is kind and supportive of you, but I find your gratitude a little disquieting. You seem to have very little sense of self-worth and I am wondering where this comes from, and if your 'perfect' husband has subtly encouraged that in you. I wonder if he actively withholds sex as part of that - you said "our lack of sex over the years has really dented my confidence" and told him that it's making you feel insecure, but - nothing changes. Lacking confidence, insecure, grateful - you're not going to leave him under those emotions, and so he can continue to look good in the eyes of others.

It's possible he has a madonna/whore attitude, it's possible he uses porn as much as he uses prostituted women and is so desensitised by it as to be functionally impotent. Both bad, but side-issues as to the effect it is having on you. The more I think about it, the more I think it suits him to have you insecure, grateful, lacking in confidence. It makes you the perfect cover. He can do whatever he wants, he's got you trained to accept even this tripe he's peddling now.

You know he's lying to you. He's a really, really, shit person.

user1471538283 · 02/10/2021 11:58

He prefers whatever he does with prostitutes. I do not believe him and I would leave.

Balonziaga · 02/10/2021 12:07

He is not who you think he is.

Sorry OP but you really don't know him at all - not properly.

FuckingFabulous · 02/10/2021 13:36

He is lying. He is using these women for sex

Sidehustle99 · 02/10/2021 15:04

@Ihatevegetables please can you let us know you are ok? I know this must be a very hard time for you. Be good to know how you are Daffodil

Hockeyboysmum · 02/10/2021 15:08

Hes lying