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H and prostitutes

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Ihatevegetables · 01/10/2021 18:14

I want to start this by saying it is probably going to be a long thread, so thank you to those who bear with me and read the whole thing.

My H has always had a strange relationship with sex. We have been together 9 years (no kids) and our sex life has never been what I hoped it would be. The sex is great when we actually do it, however H very rarely initiates and when I initiate, he often says he is too tired. We have gone months at a time without having sex. Over the years I have tried initating myself, calmly explaining to H how important sex is in a marriage and how it makes me insecure and crying and saying that this issue could end our marriage. He always agrees and promises to make more of an effort but after a week or so it goes back to normal.
H is honestly the best husband you could ask for. He has supported me financially and emotionally for 8 years, often to his own detriment, and has continually supported me with my own mental health issues. I have not been an easy person to be with at times. He puts me first in every single way, never gets angry, and truly loves me. I have no doubt of this. He has always been the 'perfect' one, whether it's as a husband, friend or family member. He is a genuinely nice man. However, he had a very fractured childhood and is his own harshest critic, he cannot tolerate himself being anything less than perfect. A few years ago we had just stopped doing long distance and I saw a message on his phone to a friend of his (sent during our time apart) that said he had brought two women back to his flat after a night out. I hit the roof and his explanation was that he had been trying to fit in with a 'laddish' group of friends he had made and had sent the message drunkenly, with no truth to it. I believed him as I do see that he constantly strives to fit in.
Fast forward to last night. We had friends round for drinks and something one of them said (nothing to do with women) raised alarm bells. It strongly implied he had lied about something in order to impress them. This has happened once before and I let it go, however something just didn't sit right and (I'm ashamed to admit) I looked at his phone when he was sleeping. I found numerous whatsapp messages to prostitute hotlines (we live in a country where this is sadly accessable) basically asking for sexual services. In some of the messages he has bartered the price, stated that he would like a discount as he 'had this one before' and has asked for photos of the different women to be sent to him. There are also messages saying he is 'ten minutes away' and asking for their location etc. He lost his wedding ring on a night out about six weeks ago and I saw one message saying that he thinks he left his grandfathers ring at the location the night before and could they please check. I was absolutely heartbroken and confronted him. He completely broke down and eventually explained everything. He found this mortifying as it was a crack in his 'perfect' facade. He said that he sends these messages to different companies when he is very drunk as he is seeking a thrill. When I asked him about why he would need directions etc and why he had asked about his wedding ring, for the former he said that they only send pictures if you confirm you are on your way and for the latter he said that he had panicked the next morning and messaged everyone, including the friends he had been out with, without thinking. He said that he has always had an issue with sex and he is very much 'in his own head', I know this is true and knowing him for 9 years, I can genuinely believe that this is a fantasy he is acting out instead of something he would act on. He was absolutely adamant that he has never actually slept with or met any of these women and never would.

I feel oddly calm, and part of me was almost relieved that this man I had felt for years was too good for me, also had flaws. I am a naturally very suspicious person but I do genuinely believe that he hasnt acted on these fantasies. What I can't get my head around is that our lack of sex over the years has really dented my confidence and caused (the only) major issue in our marriage. I also have spent years thinking he is perfect and too good for me and been completely open with him about my own flaws, and I feel like this has been a lie.

Am I crazy for believing him? If I choose to believe that this is all a fantasy, would anyone else view this as being a flaw that they are willing to overlook (provided it never happens again,) and deem it not that big a deal? I don't know how to feel except that I overreacted, as he is saying that as he never did and never would act on it, it's just a stupid thing he does when very drunk. He also says that he is so ashamed of himself that no matter how angry I am at him, he will always hate himself more. I told him that I forgave him and that we can move on, however he said it didnt matter if I forgave him, he could never forgive himself and I do believe this (ties into him being his own harshest critic).

I'm sorry for this long post, but I feel very confused and I really need some perspective on this. I have certainly made mistakes over the years, like developing a crush on a work colleague (I never acted on it and I think it was due to the lack of sexual attention from H) however I have never cheated on H.

OP posts:
alligatorpeardrop · 02/10/2021 15:17

@Ihatevegetables please give us an indication that you're ok, I can't stop worrying about you.

Bellyups · 02/10/2021 15:19

Oh op Sad for the love of God it’s sooo glaringly obvious he’s been meeting escorts for sex. He literally asked if they seen his wedding ring.
You have all the evidence.
Why are you believing him? Because you don’t want it to be true?

myheartskippedabeat · 02/10/2021 15:25

@steff13

I wouldn't believe him as far as I could throw him. This would be it for me.
I agree get rid
PocketPeanuts · 02/10/2021 15:35

I normally feel quite baffled on threads where everyone says a partner must be lying because there's always a small chance they're being truthful and you just can't tell from a post online.

But, in this case, I really think there's not a snowball's chance in hell he's telling the truth. Seriously, he's so obviously 100% lying.

And even if he wasn't lying - which he clearly, clearly is - the behaviour he has 'admitted' to would be more than enough to end the relationship for me.

He is not a good person. At all.

MintLampShade · 02/10/2021 15:36

OP, what would you say if I told you that I have a friend in a same situation and their DP said EXACTLY the same thing about messages that were found on their phones to Escorts and Prostitutes? Because that's what happened. My friend believed their DP, for later on finding out that it wasn't just a fantasy thing, it actually happened, numerous times, unprotected. Get yourself tested first of all and REALLY think about this. I think deep down you know he is lying. I'm sorry you are going through this.

billy1966 · 02/10/2021 15:43

Wouldn't trust him as far as I would throw him.

Protect yourself.

SmellyOldOwls · 02/10/2021 16:48

@DrSbaitso

H is honestly the best husband you could ask for.

Why do women say this about men like this? Do they actually believe it or do they just think they should?

Men who are getting up to stuff like that are probably really really nice out of guilt.
Amiwronghere · 02/10/2021 17:44

I work in a related field. I assure you, he’s lying.

Hereiamagain1 · 27/02/2022 09:24

Hi Everyone

I wanted to give everyone an update, I've name changed as my husband saw my post on here.

Thank you top everyone who responded, it's really helped me. Since my last post, more has happened. I ended up checking his phone again and found a message to one of his friends a year ago saying that he had met this amazing girl on a night out (we were going through a rough patch and he had relocated to another country and I was still in the UK wrapping things up before also moving). He said in the message he didnt do anything at all with her, his friend asks if he has been messaging her and he replied saying 'trying not to because before I've just been wasted and meant nothing at all. This is different so I've got to be pretty careful.'

When I confronted him about what 'before I've just been wasted and it meant nothing' meant, he said he was meaning just talking to girls. This friend then messaged my husband encouraging him to message her and keep it a secret from me. The real kick in the teeth is that when I finally moved out to where my husband is, this friend had to move out of his apartment and lived with us for six weeks.

I then found an old phone memory card of his from 2-3 years ago, in the apps section both bumble and tinder were named as being files on his phone. I checked the last thing he had googled, and it was escorts in our hometown. Bear in mind this is from years ago. He just flat out denied these things when I brought them up and laughed at how ridiculous the accusation was, he sounded completely relaxed and genuinely baffled. He really is a very convincing individual.

He is currently out of the country on work and will be for another two weeks. I'm planning my next move with my parents help. For total transparency, there is a lovely man at work I've been friends with for a year and any time I thought I might have feelings for him in the past I completely shut it down out of loyalty for my husband. After all these revelations, something inside me just broke and I stopped holding myself back from being happy and beating myself up with guilt everytime I felt I was doing something small wrong because i felt he was too good for me. I know two wrongs don't make a right but I've been sleeping with him since my husband left for work and it's the first time in 9 years I've felt actually physically wanted. Who knows what will happen with this man and I'm still not completely sure about leaving my husband, but I'm putting my own happiness first and taking time to work out what my next step is. As always, advice and opinions from you all would be really helpful.

Hereiamagain1 · 27/02/2022 09:36

Sorry to answer a question a few people asked, he did show me a message to his friend the night he lost his wedding off saying he thinks he took it off when they were eating chicken wings and has he seen it. He said he was so drunk he didn't remember half the night and was anxious the next morning that he had done something with a prostitute. As that was very far from being the first night he was so drunk he remembered very little (in fact at one point a couple of years ago it was a weekly occurrence) I doubt that this message I saw was the first and only time something like this has happened.

GayANDguilty · 27/02/2022 09:38

I think you are going to confuse yourself more by entering into this sexual relationship with someone else at the minute.
Try and imagine your husband finding out and leaving you - would you care or has so much damage been done now from his actions that you’ve gone past caring?
That should be a good indicator of how you truly feel x

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