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H and prostitutes

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Ihatevegetables · 01/10/2021 18:14

I want to start this by saying it is probably going to be a long thread, so thank you to those who bear with me and read the whole thing.

My H has always had a strange relationship with sex. We have been together 9 years (no kids) and our sex life has never been what I hoped it would be. The sex is great when we actually do it, however H very rarely initiates and when I initiate, he often says he is too tired. We have gone months at a time without having sex. Over the years I have tried initating myself, calmly explaining to H how important sex is in a marriage and how it makes me insecure and crying and saying that this issue could end our marriage. He always agrees and promises to make more of an effort but after a week or so it goes back to normal.
H is honestly the best husband you could ask for. He has supported me financially and emotionally for 8 years, often to his own detriment, and has continually supported me with my own mental health issues. I have not been an easy person to be with at times. He puts me first in every single way, never gets angry, and truly loves me. I have no doubt of this. He has always been the 'perfect' one, whether it's as a husband, friend or family member. He is a genuinely nice man. However, he had a very fractured childhood and is his own harshest critic, he cannot tolerate himself being anything less than perfect. A few years ago we had just stopped doing long distance and I saw a message on his phone to a friend of his (sent during our time apart) that said he had brought two women back to his flat after a night out. I hit the roof and his explanation was that he had been trying to fit in with a 'laddish' group of friends he had made and had sent the message drunkenly, with no truth to it. I believed him as I do see that he constantly strives to fit in.
Fast forward to last night. We had friends round for drinks and something one of them said (nothing to do with women) raised alarm bells. It strongly implied he had lied about something in order to impress them. This has happened once before and I let it go, however something just didn't sit right and (I'm ashamed to admit) I looked at his phone when he was sleeping. I found numerous whatsapp messages to prostitute hotlines (we live in a country where this is sadly accessable) basically asking for sexual services. In some of the messages he has bartered the price, stated that he would like a discount as he 'had this one before' and has asked for photos of the different women to be sent to him. There are also messages saying he is 'ten minutes away' and asking for their location etc. He lost his wedding ring on a night out about six weeks ago and I saw one message saying that he thinks he left his grandfathers ring at the location the night before and could they please check. I was absolutely heartbroken and confronted him. He completely broke down and eventually explained everything. He found this mortifying as it was a crack in his 'perfect' facade. He said that he sends these messages to different companies when he is very drunk as he is seeking a thrill. When I asked him about why he would need directions etc and why he had asked about his wedding ring, for the former he said that they only send pictures if you confirm you are on your way and for the latter he said that he had panicked the next morning and messaged everyone, including the friends he had been out with, without thinking. He said that he has always had an issue with sex and he is very much 'in his own head', I know this is true and knowing him for 9 years, I can genuinely believe that this is a fantasy he is acting out instead of something he would act on. He was absolutely adamant that he has never actually slept with or met any of these women and never would.

I feel oddly calm, and part of me was almost relieved that this man I had felt for years was too good for me, also had flaws. I am a naturally very suspicious person but I do genuinely believe that he hasnt acted on these fantasies. What I can't get my head around is that our lack of sex over the years has really dented my confidence and caused (the only) major issue in our marriage. I also have spent years thinking he is perfect and too good for me and been completely open with him about my own flaws, and I feel like this has been a lie.

Am I crazy for believing him? If I choose to believe that this is all a fantasy, would anyone else view this as being a flaw that they are willing to overlook (provided it never happens again,) and deem it not that big a deal? I don't know how to feel except that I overreacted, as he is saying that as he never did and never would act on it, it's just a stupid thing he does when very drunk. He also says that he is so ashamed of himself that no matter how angry I am at him, he will always hate himself more. I told him that I forgave him and that we can move on, however he said it didnt matter if I forgave him, he could never forgive himself and I do believe this (ties into him being his own harshest critic).

I'm sorry for this long post, but I feel very confused and I really need some perspective on this. I have certainly made mistakes over the years, like developing a crush on a work colleague (I never acted on it and I think it was due to the lack of sexual attention from H) however I have never cheated on H.

OP posts:
youvegottenminuteslynn · 01/10/2021 19:10

@NotSoNewAndShiny

Someone like this, you'd literally have to catch him in the act for him to 'fess up. Even then, he may try out some more lies if he can get away with it.
This. If you walked in and he wasn't literally inside her, he'd pull the 'I couldn't go through with it' / 'I realised as soon as I got here that it wasn't what I wanted' etc. They're all so predictable it's like the get handed a script.
TaraR2020 · 01/10/2021 19:11

I'm sorry op, I also believe he's lying Flowers

elliesmummy19 · 01/10/2021 19:13

He has definitely been having sex with prostitutes. Sorry. The wedding ring gives it away 100%.

Get STI tests.

UltimateBugKilla · 01/10/2021 19:13

You sound lovely, and deserve so much more than a sexless marriage with a 'husband' who would rather pay for sex with a stranger than make love to his wife.

He will now do it in secret.

You can let it go, but almost guarantee in a year or 2, he will slip up and you will realise you wasted more of your life on him.

Sorry OP 💐

blueskytoday06 · 01/10/2021 19:13

It's over Vegetables, I'm sorry. I don't really think there's any coming back from this.
He's most definitely lying & you will undoubtedly regret it should you choose to stay with him.
He has picked sex for sale over sex with you. How can there be anything to salvage.

Best of luck moving on x x

bigbeatmanifesto · 01/10/2021 19:13

He's is no doubt in my mind lying.
I'm sorry OP but the reason he's not sleeping with you is because he's sleeping with prostitutes.

QuentinBunbury · 01/10/2021 19:13

Hes lying
BUT even if he's telling the truth, where does that leave you? Anxious about who he's messaging, what he's doing? Is it escalating, why is he being secretive with his phone, howuch money is he spending?

I've been there with a husband "addicted" to online sex workers, I stupidly believed him that he gave up, he was lying. But for the 5 years I spent after I found out and chose to believe his bullshit I was constantly anxious because the trust was gone.
You don't need proof he's used prostitutes to leave. It's up to you if you can live with a situation where you don't fully trust your husband. I wouldn't recommend it personally, it will drive you mad

Imcatmum · 01/10/2021 19:14

There is literally no way he is telling you the truth. You are just not ready to hear it. I guess you could hunt down the real proof but you are so determined to believe him right now, I'd say he would manage to explain anything away.

Take your time. You will get there but I'm sorry, the end result is the same.

Pinklioness · 01/10/2021 19:14

Oh and years ago I was going out with someone who told me he was staying in on NYE to fix his car. I kind of believed him because I wanted to. Looking back it's about as believable as your husband's stories.

Rewis · 01/10/2021 19:15

Let's pretend he is telling the truth. What is he doing to fix this? Has he promised to go to therapy, suggested couples counselling, sexual therapy? Or is he just saying he is worthless and trying to get you to kick him out so he can be the victim?

BrendaBubbles · 01/10/2021 19:15

I think he’s lying but at the same time I get the sense you might not hugely care. If sex is literally the only problem you have and for whatever reason you don’t want to end things, have you considered entirely taking sex off the table and both do your own thing in that regard? It’s unorthodox but in these modern times a good spouse does not have to be a good sexual partner and vice versa.

duf21 · 01/10/2021 19:15

Yes he is lying. I think you already know this, even if you don't want to admit it, as you state "if I choose to believe...". Believing would absolutely be a choice as it in no way can be based on the truth.
Whether you can accept this 'flaw' of his in conjunction with everything else he provides for you is up to you and no one has the right to judge you for that. That is also your choice. As PPs have said though you definitely want to get tested and put in some safe sex rules for your own personal health & safety.

SweeneyToddler · 01/10/2021 19:16

Sounds like you’re both lying to you.

Hogwarts21 · 01/10/2021 19:16

He's not having sex with you because he's getting mega-thrills with all these women he's texting. Maybe it's not in person, maybe it's just on the phone, who knows - but the reason he's got no 'energy' for you, is because he can't get it up because he's been getting it up for numerous other ladies...

I'm so sorry. He's been a deceitful rotten bastard.

There is absolutely no way I could live with someone like that. He has a HUGE amount of baggage to work through to come out the other side and maybe, just maybe be OK to have sex with you and have proper, loving, faithful sex.

Do you want to go on that hard, brutal, exhausting, uncertain journey? I think not.

Dogscanteatonions · 01/10/2021 19:16

I know you want to believe it's a fantasy but it's real he has seen them.

I tell you now for a fact that prostitutes don't send out pictures for free. It's rare they send them out at all, you'll normally have to pay to access a private gallery. They sure as shit don't text pics to Randoms that are never going to meet.

Standrewsschool · 01/10/2021 19:17

Never acted on it? Considering he’s asking for reductions for people he’s seen before, and he’s posted he’s ten minutes away, that’s evidence that he’s acted on it.

He’s lying to you.

Does the texts coincide with when he is drunk?

Looking back, are there any ‘nights with the lads’, unexpected transactions on your bank statement, times when dp goes out suddenly etc

PizzaCrust · 01/10/2021 19:17

I agree with PPs.

It’s also disgusting that he was bartering with them. Sex work is so risky and these women are putting themselves on the line to make a living (that’s before we get into trafficking) and here’s this well off, cheating scumbag bartering them down like they’re cattle at a market.

It’s fucking vile.

Oh, and he supported you though MH issues? I’d put money on him being the root for most of your struggles. He supported you because he knew he did it to you and felt guilty about his side pieces.

I’m sorry but he’s just trash.

limerencelarry · 01/10/2021 19:18

Were you born yesterday, OP?!

SunnyLeaf · 01/10/2021 19:19

His excuses are complete bollocks, I’m sorry but he’s making up the same shit anyone would in that situation. He’s not unique or any different from other cheaters. So sorry OP.

Scbchl · 01/10/2021 19:19

Bless you for wanting to believe him but he's definitely seeing prostitutes not just messaging. He even said in his messages he'd seen this one before. Not a chance did he message everyone including a prostitute who he never actually visited. I'm sorry op I know it must he really hard to accept but all the signs are there that he has been going elsewhere for sex, im so sorry.

mirijones · 01/10/2021 19:19

Please don't be so naive. He's lying.

MerryMarigold · 01/10/2021 19:21

So sorry OP. He's definitely lying. So much doesn't add up. The way you talk about him and yourself, something is off. Your marriage already sounded dysfunctional even without the lack of sex, and then the prostitutes.

He's so far from perfect I don't know where to start. It will take a bit of time for your eyes to open when you've thought for a long time how wonderful he is, but I hope your eyes can open. And I hope you have some real life support because it's earth shattering to realise you've been lied to for so long and that someone you love is not what you thought he was.

Scbchl · 01/10/2021 19:22

And also just to say, if his story were actually true and he were just calling and saying he was 10 mins away to get pics of the prostitutes then NOT turning up, they'd quickly be blocking his number as a time waster. So that's actually bullshit without a shadow of a doubt.

TheDuchessOfMN · 01/10/2021 19:22

Of course he’s lying. He’s even messaging to haggle the price? Hmm
If it was just a fantasy (all men use that excuse) they would know he is a time waster and block his number. He isn’t a time waster, he’s a regular

Sorry Flowers

TheDuchessOfMN · 01/10/2021 19:23

Snap @Scbchl

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