To say there are some decent men

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I know there are many threads about how shit men are. It may be a shit partner not helping, abused by a stranger, sexism etc etc etc.

But to say some men are decent. My DH said this morning re the policemen just sentenced “we men are mostly basically shit aren’t we”
I told him he was one of the good ones and the good ones need to carry on trying to challenging these men who basically hate women
My DH had challenged many men over their behaviour towards women including dropping friendships.

I have epilepsy and DH had always had my back and supported me. Done more then his fare share with kids including most night feeds as well as working full time which I can do. Letting me sleep and recover after a seizure and taking charge without complaining.

He always make me feel good about myself, never pesters for sex and is a good dad.

Yep sure he had his faults he is a bit disorganised and he seems to think dirty clothes belong on the bedroom floor (but does pick them up when asked)
He snores like a machine gun and I have to wear earplug but on the whole he is a decent bloke and I am sure there are many more out there. I would just like to here about them

You know what, the sudden entrance of @ColorMagicBarbie and @CBUK2K2 makes me suspicious we've gained the attention of MRAs and frankly I'm too exhausted to engage with people who don't acknowledge the systemic issue of violence against women and girls.

Enjoy your denial of reality, you're lost causes.

CBUK2K2
Shut up about Black people. Lots of us aren't involved in knife crime, racist media has racists like you believing and spouting that crap.

Using Black people as an example when we're talking about heinous crimes not committed by Black people anyway. Racist whataboutery aiming to deflect.

Women are rightly un-nerved at this time - women of all races, at that - You're the only one whos gone basic and mentioned colour.

Race to the bottom nonsense trying to labour a useless point.

Today has really been a day for bad taste posts and off-key comments .

@Pallisers bad people commit crimes not genders. The number of men who commit violent and sexual crimes is tiny, yet it’s somehow OK to point the finger at all men.

What the fuck is gender?

Have you looked at the statistics as to which sex commits most violent crimes?

Why am I bothering to reply to such stupidity/trollery/male apologisty

[quote CBUK2K2]@Pallisers Almost every single person that has laid down their lives to give you a free, safe, democratic and fair society to live in was male. You should maybe factor that in to your misandry.[/quote]
Almost every single person that has tried to take away my freedom, safety, democratic rights and live in a fair society was male.

@youvegottenminuteslynn

You know what, the sudden entrance of *@ColorMagicBarbie and @CBUK2K2* makes me suspicious we've gained the attention of MRAs and frankly I'm too exhausted to engage with people who don't acknowledge the systemic issue of violence against women and girls.

Enjoy your denial of reality, you're lost causes.

Ok, toodlepip. 👋

(Knew it wouldn't be long before the MRA/man in disguise card was played).

Almost all infanticide is commuted by women.

All infanticide is committed by women@CBUK2K2. Because only the mother of the child can commit infanticide. It is a very specific legal thing that recognises the problems suffered by post partum women and not applicable to men.

I have no idea what kind of bullshit point you are trying to make, but I find it distasteful that you are using severely mentally ill women to make it.

Shut up about Black people. Lots of us aren't involved in knife crime, racist media has racists like you believing and spouting that crap.

So what you're saying is NABALT?

You can save your toodlepip @ColorMagicBarbie I'm not leaving the thread, I just won't be engaging with male violence apologists and people who use straw man arguments / whataboutery. So 'toodlepip' to you too, not the thread as a whole.

@DeeCeeCherry you see the irony in you pointing fingers at all men but getting upset about drawing parallels with similar discrimination against black people?

@TooBigForMyBoots

Almost all infanticide is commuted by women.

All infanticide is committed by women@CBUK2K2. Because only the mother of the child can commit infanticide. It is a very specific legal thing that recognises the problems suffered by post partum women and not applicable to men.

I have no idea what kind of bullshit point you are trying to make, but I find it distasteful that you are using severely mentally ill women to make it.

Because mentally stable men stab their partner 40 times, right?

As you speak on behalf of 'women' just don't forget that the overwhelming majority of us don't agree with feminists.

@TooBigForMyBoots where have you got that from? That’s nonsense, infanticide is the intentional killing of children or offspring.

The infanticide act sets out some preferential treatment for women who do it to be treated as manslaughter not murder, is that what ours getting confused with?

As you speak on behalf of 'women' just don't forget that the overwhelming majority of us don't agree with feminists.

I can't help but address this.

You 'don't agree with feminists'?

This is the definition of feminism. You don't agree with it you don't believe women should be treated as equals to men.

Which explains your previous comments so cheers for being open about it.

@minou123 - no, a small number of leaders were male, the population as a whole went along with it quite willingly, there were plenty of female Nazis and communists. However pretty much all of the people who laid down their lives for your freedoms were men.

bad people commit crimes not genders.

No "genders" don't commit anything, but one sex overwhelming commits violent crime in society and that's the male sex. It's a sexed issue. A male issue. Or are the people in charge of publishing crime statistics rip roaring misandrists making it all up too?!

To the racists -

I said what I said. Your deflection aim doesnt interest me. As for upset - I just imagine you all as mouselike in real life. Complete with squeak.

You have to be a special kind of cunt to spew racism at a time when women are expressing their worries about danger from men. I guess you cant help yourselves though. Racism trumps all.

@youvegottenminuteslynn

As you speak on behalf of 'women' just don't forget that the overwhelming majority of us don't agree with feminists.

I can't help but address this.

You 'don't agree with feminists'?

This is the definition of feminism. You don't agree with it you don't believe women should be treated as equals to men.

Which explains your previous comments so cheers for being open about it.

In practice feminism is different. I'm sure even the BNP don't actively proclaim that they're racist!

There's a reason why three quarters of women believe in gender equality but only 7% would identify as a feminist. The truth hurts!

@youvegottenminuteslynn I think every sane person agrees with he goals of feminists of old. The desire for equality, fairness and freedom for all.

I don’t honestly know many women who share the views of the modern man hating extreme version of feminism that is increasingly common today.

just don't forget that the overwhelming majority of us don't agree with feminists.

Well no a sexist male wouldn't would he?

@DeeCeeCherry you have to be a special kind of person to in a single thread bemoan one form of discrimination and then champion another.

[quote CBUK2K2]@youvegottenminuteslynn I think every sane person agrees with he goals of feminists of old. The desire for equality, fairness and freedom for all.

I don’t honestly know many women who share the views of the modern man hating extreme version of feminism that is increasingly common today.[/quote]
I guess people tend to mix with those who have similar beliefs.

Happily, my mates care about the issue of male violence.

Knock yourself out ranting about men being hard done by. You're just showing yourself up 👍🏻

[quote CBUK2K2]@TooBigForMyBoots can you elaborate on what you mean there please?[/quote]
No. My post is perfectly clear.

@Ledition Because what some consider feminism today is a thinly veiled hate crime?

Replace man in much of the bile espoused in this forum with some other religion or race and see how it reads.

Most women I know don’t hate their sons/brothers/fathers/husbands.

@youvegottenminuteslynn And here in lies the problem of the echo chamber.

@DeeCeeCherry

To the racists -

I said what I said. Your deflection aim doesnt interest me. As for upset - I just imagine you all as mouselike in real life. Complete with squeak.

You have to be a special kind of cunt to spew racism at a time when women are expressing their worries about danger from men. I guess you cant help yourselves though. Racism trumps all.

To the sexist bigot -

Please could you explain which post was racist so I can report it. I only saw it stated that lots of black people are involved in knife crime, which is a true statistic like the male violence figures.

In fact, the ONS crime survey states that black people are 'overrepresented at every stage of criminal justice system'. I'm sure the posters on here would say that we should avoid them as 'we don't know who the good ones are', but I'm prepared to give people a chance as I recognise that violent men and violent black people are in the minority.