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To say there are some decent men

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Poppyscone · 30/09/2021 15:31

I know there are many threads about how shit men are. It may be a shit partner not helping, abused by a stranger, sexism etc etc etc.

But to say some men are decent. My DH said this morning re the policemen just sentenced “we men are mostly basically shit aren’t we”
I told him he was one of the good ones and the good ones need to carry on trying to challenging these men who basically hate women
My DH had challenged many men over their behaviour towards women including dropping friendships.

I have epilepsy and DH had always had my back and supported me. Done more then his fare share with kids including most night feeds as well as working full time which I can do. Letting me sleep and recover after a seizure and taking charge without complaining.

He always make me feel good about myself, never pesters for sex and is a good dad.

Yep sure he had his faults he is a bit disorganised and he seems to think dirty clothes belong on the bedroom floor (but does pick them up when asked)
He snores like a machine gun and I have to wear earplug but on the whole he is a decent bloke and I am sure there are many more out there. I would just like to here about them

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CBUK2K2 · 02/10/2021 01:08

@TooBigForMyBoots no it wasn’t, or I would have had a clue what you were rambling about.

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/10/2021 01:10

[quote CBUK2K2]@TooBigForMyBoots where have you got that from? That’s nonsense, infanticide is the intentional killing of children or offspring.

The infanticide act sets out some preferential treatment for women who do it to be treated as manslaughter not murder, is that what ours getting confused with?[/quote]
No it doesn't. Infanticide is a specific law apart from both murder and manslaughter.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide_Act

youvegottenminuteslynn · 02/10/2021 01:10

Definite MRAs. Fuck it, I'm not adding fuel to the fire. It's pointless and they're showing themselves up and shining a light on their own ignorance. Embarrassed for them really.

minou123 · 02/10/2021 01:10

[quote CBUK2K2]@minou123 - no, a small number of leaders were male, the population as a whole went along with it quite willingly, there were plenty of female Nazis and communists. However pretty much all of the people who laid down their lives for your freedoms were men.[/quote]
What are you talking about?

So now only a small number of men are bad , but really it was the population of women who were the nazis and communists who went, willing, along with it.

You really don't like women, do you?

CBUK2K2 · 02/10/2021 01:13

@TooBigForMyBoots Your still confusing infanticide (the act of killing a child) with a piece of legislation which says:

“In England and Wales the Infanticide Act (1938) allows that if a woman kills her child under a year old she may be punished as ifshe were guilty of manslaughter and not murder, if 'at the time of the act or omission the balance of her mind was disturbed by reason of her not having fully recovered from the effect of….”

CBUK2K2 · 02/10/2021 01:16

@minou123 No….. A small number of men have been leaders of evil regimes, however men and women have both been very happy to go along with them.

However it’s it men who have protected you form them.

I don’t hate women, I love women, am happily married and have lots as close friends, you just don’t like me pointing out inconvenient truths.

EspressoDoubleShot · 02/10/2021 01:16

You know what I don’t want to hear platitudes about great partners & NAMALT
I’m tired if women having to accommodate NAMALT protestations
For one time let’s not close down legitimate female concerns, we need an uninterrupted voice

CBUK2K2 · 02/10/2021 01:18

@EspressoDoubleShot So you’re happy if we blame all women for Myra Hindley?

EspressoDoubleShot · 02/10/2021 01:22

I refuse to be drawn into tangential chuff to substantiate whatever point
As I said I’m tired in this week I’d like some time to quietly reflect on the institutional failings of the met and the trauma of yet another women murdered & raped

minou123 · 02/10/2021 01:22

I don’t hate women, I love women, am happily married and have lots as close friends, you just don’t like me pointing out inconvenient truths

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

There you are, I was wondering how long it would take.

DeeCeeCherry · 02/10/2021 01:24

ColorMagicBarbie
Racists are lower than sea-level to me, youre not important and likely have no voice in real life.

Youre just aiming to race-bait, and you arent even that good at it.

Or conversely youre compelled to randomly chatter about Black people as youre fascinated🙂. I mean this post and thread is nothing whatsoever to do with Black people yet you just can't help yourself. Stop watching Black people.

Envy is a bitch.

This thread is all over the place now anyway due to your foolishness so I'll happily leave you to whatever youre going on about.

CBUK2K2 · 02/10/2021 01:25

@minou123 Not really sure what that means? Other than you don’t actually have an argument.

CBUK2K2 · 02/10/2021 01:26

@DeeCeeCherry can you please explain what was racist?

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/10/2021 01:26

@CBUK2K2, you said Almost all infanticide is commuted by women. Using it as a evidence/statistic? for fuck knows what. Your "statistic" is wrong. All infanticide is committed by women. All of it. It is a 100% female crime that applies only to new mothers. Not fathers. Not men. Not mothers who kill their teenagers, unless they also kill an infant.

EspressoDoubleShot · 02/10/2021 01:29

You're obviously provocative & inarticulate. It’s all a bit basic @CBUK2K2
Women are adept at recognising this goading and poking shite for what it is
We have been dealing with it for years. Unfortunately

minou123 · 02/10/2021 01:31

EspressoDoubleShot

I knew the women would understand my post.

He's not even clever enough to work out what gave him away.

EspressoDoubleShot · 02/10/2021 01:32

Quite

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/10/2021 01:33

The number of men who commit violent and sexual crimes is tiny,

What is that tiny number @CBUK2K2?

CBUK2K2 · 02/10/2021 01:35

@TooBigForMyBoots Still no,

Infanticide (or infant homicide) is the intentional killing of infants or offspring. Now mostly illegal (apart from some countries[where?]), infanticide was a widespread practice throughout human history that was mainly used to dispose of unwanted children.[1]: 61  Its main purposes saving resources from being spent on weak or disabled offspring. Unwanted infants were normally abandoned to die of exposure, but in some societies they were manually killed.

EspressoDoubleShot · 02/10/2021 01:36

As a group
men are more likely to rape,than be raped
Men are more likely to be the perpetrator in DV
Men are more likely to undertake homicide-suicide in the familial group

CBUK2K2 · 02/10/2021 01:38

@TooBigForMyBoots - Well 207 women were murdered in 2020, so I’m going to go with less than 300 (and assume all murders are make) as it’s generally not a group sport. There are 35 million men in the U.K.

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/10/2021 01:40

TheInfanticide Actis the name of two 20th-century acts inEnglish lawthat started treating the killing of aninfantchild by its mother during the early months of life as a lesser crime thanmurder.

CBUK2K2 · 02/10/2021 01:43

@EspressoDoubleShot There are a lot of variables hiding in those facts you quote.

For a start, male victims of rape are much less likely to report the crime.

Female on make domestic violence is also reported less and treated entirely differently by society than make on debate violence.

There was an American study a couple of years ago that showed in the US when you take in to account prisons men were roughly equally likely to be victims of sexual violence.

There was another US study that showed that some of the hugest levels of intimate partner violence were in gay female relationships.

CBUK2K2 · 02/10/2021 01:44

@TooBigForMyBoots Yes, but that doesn’t mean it’s only women that can commit the crime of infanticide.

EspressoDoubleShot · 02/10/2021 01:47

Infanticide is rarely prosecuted last I recall was 2018 aldershot
Common reason is post partum psychisus, disassociated state, trauma