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I know it's cheeky but should I just go for it?

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10stepsback · 10/09/2021 12:32

I've found myself in a really crappy situation but I'll try to make it short and sweet. I, along with my daughter have been in our current rental for the last 8 years. I started dating my partner nearly 4 years ago and he lives just up the road from me, mortgage free. We both have children from previous relationships, my daughter who is 18 and off to uni this week and his daughter who is 15, still in school. His wife passed away 6 years ago. His daughter has struggled, but we became incredibly close quite quickly. She is also close to my daughter and they see each other as sisters. I have never tried to replace her mum and I made it clear from the beginning that I would not get involved in their arguments or try to discipline her. Ex really struggles to set boundaries and she speaks to him like rubbish most of the time. She has a lot of anger issues I feel and they argue a lot which can make the atmosphere sometimes unbearable.
He has tried to arrange counselling multiple times but she isn't interested.

Recently my landlord made me aware that he was thinking of selling up in the next few months. For a while I have wondered where our relationship was heading so we both decided to have a talk about the next steps, with the most obvious one being to move in together, especially since I'm paying nearly £600 a month in rental fees even though I spend most of my time at his house. He agreed that he wanted me to move in and live with them. We sat his daughter down to have a chat and to make sure she was okay with it. She's had a rough start to life and we agreed that we wouldn't do it if she wasn't happy with the idea. Initially she was over the moon and said she couldn't wait for me to move in, that she couldn't wait to have another girl around the house to do girly things, have pamper and movie nights etc. She is also extremely unhappy with her weight (as am I) and we both said that we would exercise together and make healthy meals. It was going to be our little activity that didn't involve her dad. Just us girls. At no point did she us tell or make us feel that she wasn't comfortable or happy with the idea, until this week, a week before I am due to move out of my current place.

It has come to light that she now doesn't want me to move in and is really unhappy with the idea. She told her dad on Wednesday night that if I come she will move in with her auntie. This isn't the impression she gave us when we spoke to her a month ago. The last few weeks she has been excited and has even helped me move boxes in. He hasn't said anything or tried to explain to her that it is too late for her to change her mind. I suspect that she has realised at the last minute that this is all real and actually going to happen and it’s scared her. Perhaps it was foolish of us to believe that she was happy with the idea but we had talked about it in depth several times before making the decision and then over these last few weeks she seemed so excited for me to come. Even though we agreed that we wouldn’t do it if she was unhappy, it is a slightly different situation now as I’m suppose to be moving out next Friday.

Initially my landlord said he would give me 6 months to find somewhere else before putting the house up for sale, however I gave him notice straight away (after having agreed with partner to move in with them) so he put it on the market immediately. Estate agent believes it will sell quickly as there has already been quite a few viewings. Luckily landlord has said I can stay for another month, and then we will take it week by week until the house sells or if I find somewhere else. I haven’t spoken to my partner since yesterday morning after he decided to send me links to a property in the next town (a 1 bed flat above a youth hostel). This was the first I’d heard from after he told me that his daughter didn’t want me to move in. He has kindly told me he will loan me the money for a deposit on another rental if needs be. No apology or any concerns for my well-being, he’s just carried on as normal. Rentals don’t come up that often in this area and if they do, they are normally priced at around £700+pcm which I can’t afford. I work full time but can only stretch to around £600 which I was currently pay. I also have a dog that we’ve had since he was a puppy and I’m not prepared to give him up. My daughter absolutely adores him and would be so heartbroken. I was lucky that my landlord didn’t mind pets but not many others feel the same way as it is advertised on their websites.
Partner has offered to take the dog if needs be (so he’ll have my dog, but not me. Lovely) but hopefully it won’t come to that. I do have friends and family that could take him if I can’t find a rental that accepts pets. Buying a property is not possible unfortunately.

Our relationship is over, although I’m not sure he is aware of that and thinks we will be carrying on as normal. I am absolutely heartbroken as I still love him but I just feel so hurt and I still can’t believe he could do this to me. My daughter is off to Uni tomorrow so I’m trying my best to hold it all together so she can enjoy her last couple of days at home before leaving. I don’t want her to see me upset but she is equally hurt by what they’ve done. We’ve sold a lot of our furniture and packed our lives up ready to move next week. It is such a shit show and I will never rely on a man ever again after this. I have seen a couple of rentals within the area, which have been on Rightmove for a while now. They are out my price range by around a £100 a month. Would I be unreasonable to phone the estate agent up and explain my situation and see if the landlord will consider reducing the rent? If the property has been sitting there empty for months and they are desperate for the income, do you think they might consider it? I feel cheeky for even asking but if you don’t ask you don’t get I suppose! What do I have to lose at this point, right?

If you’ve managed to read the whole post, thank you. Please be nice, I'm feeling pretty fragile and stressed at the moment.

OP posts:
PeachMelba78 · 10/09/2021 12:37

That’s a really awful situation. I would ask - what have you got to lose?

Kenneldogsrock · 10/09/2021 12:38

Definitely ask. If you don’t ask you don’t get is very apt.

10stepsback · 10/09/2021 12:38

Not only am I cross at him, but I'm cross at myself for actually thinking this would work. We put our trust in a 15 year old child which seems ridiculous when I think about it now. I'm angry because my landlord would have given me 6 months to find another place before putting the house up for sale. I'm unbelievably stressed and worried about having to find somewhere else within the next month or so now. Sad

OP posts:
Crazycrazylady · 10/09/2021 12:38

All they can say is no! If you have a good reference from your lady landlord, They might be interested

Brollypackedforscottishholiday · 10/09/2021 12:41

Some landlords can be swayed by offering a pet bond op.
Nowt to lose by asking your current ll. Good tenants are hard to come by!
Thinking about it his dd has done you a favour.. Or maybe it wasn't his dd who had cold feet...

SukonthaM · 10/09/2021 12:41

What a shit situation op, and a horrible way to let you down. From the sounds of things his dd is a bit of a drama queen who has him wrapped around her little finger. At the very least I think he should have told her it’s too late to back out and let you down after you already given up your property/sold furniture etc, so you’ll have to move in and see if it works out.
As for the rentals I’d definitely put a lower offer in. If houses have been sat empty for more than a couple of weeks then it makes sense for landlord to get in whoever they can.

UndercoverIntrovert · 10/09/2021 12:44

I think you should definitely call the estate agent - I'm sure you can get a good reference from your current landlord to say what a good tenant you are as bargaining power.
I'm sorry that has all happened to you, it sounds really hard. I hope it all works out ok

Cocomarine · 10/09/2021 12:46

You didn’t put your trust in a 15yo, you put it in a grown man.

I’m so glad to see you say the relationship is over - I applaud your clear thinking!

However, for now:

  • absolutely ask about a reduction, you don’t need to explain your situation - and they won’t care - they’ll just know/find out whether the landlord will reduce or not
  • call ex’s bluff before he realises he’s an ex, and get money from him. Do not pay back.
Yummymummy2020 · 10/09/2021 12:48

Definitely try!!! Not cheeky at all worst can happen Is they say no!!!

LuaDipa · 10/09/2021 12:50

Go for it, shy bairns get nowt!

I agree the relationship is definitely over. While part of me applauds him for putting his daughter first, it is hugely unfair of him to not allow you any time to deal with this situation that he has caused. At the very least he could have said you can give it a try for 6 months to at least allow you time to find your feet again, but it seems this cowardly man is quite happy to see you on the streets or in an unsuitable 1 bedroom flat. He is not a keeper.

I hope it all works out for you.Flowers

Hoppinggreen · 10/09/2021 12:50

What an awful situation
While in some ways it’s good he’s listening to his child she shouldn’t be allowed to cause so much disruption at this late stage
You can ask LL about a rent reduction but it depends on the market, round here properties are in very short supply
Unfortunately you can’t offer a pet deposit as a PP suggested as the deposit amount is now fixed by law

romdowa · 10/09/2021 12:54

As delboy says (s)he who dares, wins and you've little to loose at this stage.

TheChiefJo · 10/09/2021 12:54

Definitely ask if pets and rent can be negotiated. They might be happy to waive rules for the right tenants.

I'd be reconsidering my relationship too, if I were you.

Danikm151 · 10/09/2021 12:55

Can you check if you are entitled to any Universal credit towards your housing.
My LHA is £650 per month for a 2 bed so it may help with a little top up?

WellLarDeDar · 10/09/2021 12:58

OP you poor thing :( I'm so sorry this happened to you. At this stage he should have just told his daughter tough shit it's too late now, rather than just leaving you in the lurch like that! Dont they feel at all guilty or give any crap about the situation they've left you in????

Definitely call the estate agents and ask. Is there any family you can stay with while you work things out? I definitely think the relationship is done after that. Stay strong!

AlexaShutUp · 10/09/2021 13:00

That's a shitty situation, OP. You must feel so let down. I hope you find somewhere suitable soon.

chesirecat99 · 10/09/2021 13:01

Unfortunately you can’t offer a pet deposit as a PP suggested as the deposit amount is now fixed by law

Some landlords seem to be getting round this by asking for the last month's (or more) rent being paid in advance and putting clauses in the contract such as the tenant can keep a dog but the carpets and upholstery must be shampooed at the end of the tenancy. This gives them the security that it reduces the chance of there being unpaid rent to be deducted from the deposit so it can be used to cover any damage by the pet.

MojitoPlease12 · 10/09/2021 13:03

Glad your leaving him! So out of order!

You poor thing .

Fingers crossed for you.

ElephantOfRisk · 10/09/2021 13:06

What a shitty situation and to be honest, although her feelings are important etc, this decision should never have been made out to be hers and hers alone. It's not fair to anyone including her.

As for asking about the rent on the properties, we have a saying that "shy bairns get nae sweeties" so definitely go for it. A polite question never does any harm and making friends with the agents is also good as they might be able to steer any properties that come up in your direction.

Sarahlou252 · 10/09/2021 13:12

I read your op with my heart in my mouth until I got to the bit where you said you know the relationship was over. Bravo to you - what an awful situation to be in.
I would always include the views of my children but the decision that was made cannot be undone a week before, its peoples lives that a 15 year old is being allowed to control.
Good luck op, I'd definitely ask, absolutely nothing to lose.

Still1nLove · 10/09/2021 13:12

What a terrible situation

Antinerak · 10/09/2021 13:13

What a crap situation. I do wonder if it wasn't the daughter getting cold feet, and perhaps it was him. Either way I'm glad you respect her feelings about it and were so thoughtful in the first place.

You should definitely ask! You have nothing to lose. I hope it works out for you

NoMoreJam21 · 10/09/2021 13:18

What a sad situation.

Couldn't it have been that he let you stay a month or so - or three months and talk his daughter round.

It sounds like she walks all over him and had the upper hand. In that situation you're never going to win then so yes best to walk away.

I'm so sorry. Flowers

Cryalot2 · 10/09/2021 13:18

Flowers how awful op.
I think you have to ask and if you current ll gives a good reference that will help. Can you do any maintenance which would go in your favour. Agree with what has been said , check your benefits.
I think you need to let your partner know that he must tell his daughter ( at that age she is old enough to be aware of her actions) that they both of them have caused you to be homeless which is mighty low of them.
Hoping you and your dog get sorted. Thinking of you with your daughter going to uni.

Didiusfalco · 10/09/2021 13:21

God what an awful situation. It’s totally right that his dd should be consulted and her feelings considered, but at this point he should have been telling her that it was too late to back out and you were essentially homeless. I’m sorry, but he’s a complete shit, which fortunately you realise. I would try every single possible property and ask for a rent reduction, you only need one to say yes!