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I know it's cheeky but should I just go for it?

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10stepsback · 10/09/2021 12:32

I've found myself in a really crappy situation but I'll try to make it short and sweet. I, along with my daughter have been in our current rental for the last 8 years. I started dating my partner nearly 4 years ago and he lives just up the road from me, mortgage free. We both have children from previous relationships, my daughter who is 18 and off to uni this week and his daughter who is 15, still in school. His wife passed away 6 years ago. His daughter has struggled, but we became incredibly close quite quickly. She is also close to my daughter and they see each other as sisters. I have never tried to replace her mum and I made it clear from the beginning that I would not get involved in their arguments or try to discipline her. Ex really struggles to set boundaries and she speaks to him like rubbish most of the time. She has a lot of anger issues I feel and they argue a lot which can make the atmosphere sometimes unbearable.
He has tried to arrange counselling multiple times but she isn't interested.

Recently my landlord made me aware that he was thinking of selling up in the next few months. For a while I have wondered where our relationship was heading so we both decided to have a talk about the next steps, with the most obvious one being to move in together, especially since I'm paying nearly £600 a month in rental fees even though I spend most of my time at his house. He agreed that he wanted me to move in and live with them. We sat his daughter down to have a chat and to make sure she was okay with it. She's had a rough start to life and we agreed that we wouldn't do it if she wasn't happy with the idea. Initially she was over the moon and said she couldn't wait for me to move in, that she couldn't wait to have another girl around the house to do girly things, have pamper and movie nights etc. She is also extremely unhappy with her weight (as am I) and we both said that we would exercise together and make healthy meals. It was going to be our little activity that didn't involve her dad. Just us girls. At no point did she us tell or make us feel that she wasn't comfortable or happy with the idea, until this week, a week before I am due to move out of my current place.

It has come to light that she now doesn't want me to move in and is really unhappy with the idea. She told her dad on Wednesday night that if I come she will move in with her auntie. This isn't the impression she gave us when we spoke to her a month ago. The last few weeks she has been excited and has even helped me move boxes in. He hasn't said anything or tried to explain to her that it is too late for her to change her mind. I suspect that she has realised at the last minute that this is all real and actually going to happen and it’s scared her. Perhaps it was foolish of us to believe that she was happy with the idea but we had talked about it in depth several times before making the decision and then over these last few weeks she seemed so excited for me to come. Even though we agreed that we wouldn’t do it if she was unhappy, it is a slightly different situation now as I’m suppose to be moving out next Friday.

Initially my landlord said he would give me 6 months to find somewhere else before putting the house up for sale, however I gave him notice straight away (after having agreed with partner to move in with them) so he put it on the market immediately. Estate agent believes it will sell quickly as there has already been quite a few viewings. Luckily landlord has said I can stay for another month, and then we will take it week by week until the house sells or if I find somewhere else. I haven’t spoken to my partner since yesterday morning after he decided to send me links to a property in the next town (a 1 bed flat above a youth hostel). This was the first I’d heard from after he told me that his daughter didn’t want me to move in. He has kindly told me he will loan me the money for a deposit on another rental if needs be. No apology or any concerns for my well-being, he’s just carried on as normal. Rentals don’t come up that often in this area and if they do, they are normally priced at around £700+pcm which I can’t afford. I work full time but can only stretch to around £600 which I was currently pay. I also have a dog that we’ve had since he was a puppy and I’m not prepared to give him up. My daughter absolutely adores him and would be so heartbroken. I was lucky that my landlord didn’t mind pets but not many others feel the same way as it is advertised on their websites.
Partner has offered to take the dog if needs be (so he’ll have my dog, but not me. Lovely) but hopefully it won’t come to that. I do have friends and family that could take him if I can’t find a rental that accepts pets. Buying a property is not possible unfortunately.

Our relationship is over, although I’m not sure he is aware of that and thinks we will be carrying on as normal. I am absolutely heartbroken as I still love him but I just feel so hurt and I still can’t believe he could do this to me. My daughter is off to Uni tomorrow so I’m trying my best to hold it all together so she can enjoy her last couple of days at home before leaving. I don’t want her to see me upset but she is equally hurt by what they’ve done. We’ve sold a lot of our furniture and packed our lives up ready to move next week. It is such a shit show and I will never rely on a man ever again after this. I have seen a couple of rentals within the area, which have been on Rightmove for a while now. They are out my price range by around a £100 a month. Would I be unreasonable to phone the estate agent up and explain my situation and see if the landlord will consider reducing the rent? If the property has been sitting there empty for months and they are desperate for the income, do you think they might consider it? I feel cheeky for even asking but if you don’t ask you don’t get I suppose! What do I have to lose at this point, right?

If you’ve managed to read the whole post, thank you. Please be nice, I'm feeling pretty fragile and stressed at the moment.

OP posts:
MumDad1958 · 11/09/2021 11:55

Having just read your full thread, I believe you have a partner problem. It seems to me that he wants the best of both worlds - to see you part of week & have his own time rest of week with his daughter. This is absolutely fine (if it's true) but he should be upfront with you & not using his daughter as the excuse for you not to move in. This is just my opinion. I really wish you well & hope you get a house soon. Take care.

AngelDelightUk · 11/09/2021 12:06

Hope you find somewhere soon, I have dogs and I know it would break my heart to give them up.

Concentrate on getting your daughter off to Uni, then get contacting agents. Especially properties which have been empty a while

amicissimma · 11/09/2021 12:30

Sorry to learn of your relationship problem, but at least you've found out how things are before you're completely installed at your (?)exP's place.

When renting or buying I have always tried to negotiate a deal. I assumed that was what was expected. People can always say no, and will if they think they can do better than my offer. If you're looking for concessions on the dog you will have less negotiation room for a price, but it's always worth asking.

PumpkinsGalore · 11/09/2021 12:47

Have only read as far as last night but I have to stop reading and say how gobsmacked I am that he's let a 15 yr old call the shots less than a WEEK before moving in day! I'm even more shocked that he hasn't even tried to find a compromise, such as suggesting to you that it just be temporary until you find somewhere (whether or not you'd be likely to accept that).

He has been handed a wonderful teaching opportunity in this situation and has completely ignored it. To teach his child

  1. Respect & empathy (if empathy can be taught?)

& 2) That once you agree to something, that the decent & moral thing to do, is to stick to it. Especially at the last minute. That it's tough luck if you suddenly change your mind right before it happens.

PumpkinsGalore · 11/09/2021 13:09

And also that sometimes in life, we have to do things we don't wish to do. That's life! Whether that's because we've previously agreed to something then changed our minds, or not!

chunkymonkey101 · 11/09/2021 13:14

We have never paid full asking price for a rental and always look to negotiate. We have also been in the position of being landlords and accepted lower offers for good tenants. Good luck!

Honeymare · 11/09/2021 14:25

From firsthand experience with a man who lets his teenage DD call the shots I'd say bullet dodged! I'm sorry you're in this situation now however, how awful of him.

Socksey · 11/09/2021 14:38

It's a mess and you need to do the right thing for you....
He's obviously not used to thinking or dealing with any kind of conflict...

Is there any way of talking to to daughter... not ideal, I know... but telling her that you were really nervous and scared about moving in with them but ultimately really looking forward to it... I suspect she's scared of the changes ahead as they became reality... obviously only if you think there is any possibility of retrieving the relationship...

user7012893145776 · 11/09/2021 15:09

How did you get on with the estate agents op?

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 11/09/2021 15:40

@QueenBee52

Credit to You OP... you have handled this with dignity and strength.. all whilst receiving this shock news the day before your DD leaves for Uni..

You do what you need to do to get through this and I hope find another Rental soon...

I would stop engaging with comments that have clearly not read the Thread before posting the same incorrect assumptions over and over .. grey rock

Good luck for your DD tomorrow 🌸💕

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grlwhowrites · 11/09/2021 15:52

Definitely ask, you're right that if you don't ask, you don't get and the worst they can do is say no.

Landlords aren't allowed to issue a blanket ban on pets anymore, new legislation came in this year:

www.gov.uk/government/news/new-standard-tenancy-agreement-to-help-renters-with-well-behaved-pets

I'm so sorry you're going through this, it sounds horrible! If I were you, I'd make it clear to him that the relationship is over. It's likely too late and the damage is done but it might be good for him to know going forward that his daughter could potentially disrupt future relationships, too. His daughter is also old enough to know about the consequences of her behaviour. They're both bang out of order!

I wish I could offer more help, you have my sympathy - moving is stressful at the best of times, let alone with all this on top of it. Wishing you lots of luck.

Jux · 11/09/2021 16:07

@TryingtobePrepared

So sorry about your situation. But just wanted to say I'm a landlord and I've take a similar drop on the rent, I've put it on the rental market at the top end of what I'd like and taken less. I've even offered to drop a little to someone who kept looking but was struggling to get the deposit together, he had fab references and a really good financial record which had clearly been affected by covid. I have never been offended by someone asking for a reduction. I'd be really happy to get a solid reliable long term tenant, voids are expensive. Give it a go
Same. Do ask. A solid long term tenant is the Ideal and worth giving a drop in monthly rent versus long term security.
Iflyaway · 11/09/2021 20:12

OP, I really feel for you. I am also a solo parent who made sacrifices for my child who eventually went to uni.

a man who lets his teenage DD call the shots I'd say bullet dodged!

I agree. He sounds like a wimp and letting her rule the roost is a disaster in the making.

&Is there any way of talking to to daughter... not ideal, I know... but telling her that you were really nervous and scared about moving in

WTF is this kind of advice?! An adult woman having to grovel to a teenager?!

NO!

You sound amazing OP. And it never rains but it pours. This is an excellent time to redial your life, DC gone to uni, relationship gone up shit's creek - he didn't have your back - and you've had great info about getting a new place. I wish you all the best.

FeckTheMagicDragon · 11/09/2021 21:18

Think of it as missing a bullet. The same thing could have happened after you moved in, not your house, not a tenant with rights, the daughter could have got upset about something and demanded you out the next day, and her father would have agreed.

QueenBee52 · 11/09/2021 22:07

@FeckTheMagicDragon

Think of it as missing a bullet. The same thing could have happened after you moved in, not your house, not a tenant with rights, the daughter could have got upset about something and demanded you out the next day, and her father would have agreed.
Totally..

OP has had a very lucky escape.. Flowers

ShinyMe · 12/09/2021 08:01

I agree that ultimately, you've dodged a bullet here op. What a crappy situation though. I hope you manage to get something sorted soon.

BlueBellsArePretty · 12/09/2021 17:07

Did your daughter get settled OK at uni op? x

VictoriaBun · 21/09/2021 07:35

How are things going ?

Turtletotem · 01/10/2021 10:57

I hope things are more settled for you now?

TotallyFloored · 01/10/2021 11:51

Wishing you luck OP - I'd def say your (ex)DP is at fault here.

I'd try speaking to landlords - if you don't ask, you don't get after all.

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