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I know it's cheeky but should I just go for it?

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10stepsback · 10/09/2021 12:32

I've found myself in a really crappy situation but I'll try to make it short and sweet. I, along with my daughter have been in our current rental for the last 8 years. I started dating my partner nearly 4 years ago and he lives just up the road from me, mortgage free. We both have children from previous relationships, my daughter who is 18 and off to uni this week and his daughter who is 15, still in school. His wife passed away 6 years ago. His daughter has struggled, but we became incredibly close quite quickly. She is also close to my daughter and they see each other as sisters. I have never tried to replace her mum and I made it clear from the beginning that I would not get involved in their arguments or try to discipline her. Ex really struggles to set boundaries and she speaks to him like rubbish most of the time. She has a lot of anger issues I feel and they argue a lot which can make the atmosphere sometimes unbearable.
He has tried to arrange counselling multiple times but she isn't interested.

Recently my landlord made me aware that he was thinking of selling up in the next few months. For a while I have wondered where our relationship was heading so we both decided to have a talk about the next steps, with the most obvious one being to move in together, especially since I'm paying nearly £600 a month in rental fees even though I spend most of my time at his house. He agreed that he wanted me to move in and live with them. We sat his daughter down to have a chat and to make sure she was okay with it. She's had a rough start to life and we agreed that we wouldn't do it if she wasn't happy with the idea. Initially she was over the moon and said she couldn't wait for me to move in, that she couldn't wait to have another girl around the house to do girly things, have pamper and movie nights etc. She is also extremely unhappy with her weight (as am I) and we both said that we would exercise together and make healthy meals. It was going to be our little activity that didn't involve her dad. Just us girls. At no point did she us tell or make us feel that she wasn't comfortable or happy with the idea, until this week, a week before I am due to move out of my current place.

It has come to light that she now doesn't want me to move in and is really unhappy with the idea. She told her dad on Wednesday night that if I come she will move in with her auntie. This isn't the impression she gave us when we spoke to her a month ago. The last few weeks she has been excited and has even helped me move boxes in. He hasn't said anything or tried to explain to her that it is too late for her to change her mind. I suspect that she has realised at the last minute that this is all real and actually going to happen and it’s scared her. Perhaps it was foolish of us to believe that she was happy with the idea but we had talked about it in depth several times before making the decision and then over these last few weeks she seemed so excited for me to come. Even though we agreed that we wouldn’t do it if she was unhappy, it is a slightly different situation now as I’m suppose to be moving out next Friday.

Initially my landlord said he would give me 6 months to find somewhere else before putting the house up for sale, however I gave him notice straight away (after having agreed with partner to move in with them) so he put it on the market immediately. Estate agent believes it will sell quickly as there has already been quite a few viewings. Luckily landlord has said I can stay for another month, and then we will take it week by week until the house sells or if I find somewhere else. I haven’t spoken to my partner since yesterday morning after he decided to send me links to a property in the next town (a 1 bed flat above a youth hostel). This was the first I’d heard from after he told me that his daughter didn’t want me to move in. He has kindly told me he will loan me the money for a deposit on another rental if needs be. No apology or any concerns for my well-being, he’s just carried on as normal. Rentals don’t come up that often in this area and if they do, they are normally priced at around £700+pcm which I can’t afford. I work full time but can only stretch to around £600 which I was currently pay. I also have a dog that we’ve had since he was a puppy and I’m not prepared to give him up. My daughter absolutely adores him and would be so heartbroken. I was lucky that my landlord didn’t mind pets but not many others feel the same way as it is advertised on their websites.
Partner has offered to take the dog if needs be (so he’ll have my dog, but not me. Lovely) but hopefully it won’t come to that. I do have friends and family that could take him if I can’t find a rental that accepts pets. Buying a property is not possible unfortunately.

Our relationship is over, although I’m not sure he is aware of that and thinks we will be carrying on as normal. I am absolutely heartbroken as I still love him but I just feel so hurt and I still can’t believe he could do this to me. My daughter is off to Uni tomorrow so I’m trying my best to hold it all together so she can enjoy her last couple of days at home before leaving. I don’t want her to see me upset but she is equally hurt by what they’ve done. We’ve sold a lot of our furniture and packed our lives up ready to move next week. It is such a shit show and I will never rely on a man ever again after this. I have seen a couple of rentals within the area, which have been on Rightmove for a while now. They are out my price range by around a £100 a month. Would I be unreasonable to phone the estate agent up and explain my situation and see if the landlord will consider reducing the rent? If the property has been sitting there empty for months and they are desperate for the income, do you think they might consider it? I feel cheeky for even asking but if you don’t ask you don’t get I suppose! What do I have to lose at this point, right?

If you’ve managed to read the whole post, thank you. Please be nice, I'm feeling pretty fragile and stressed at the moment.

OP posts:
LanisHouseLot · 10/09/2021 13:21

Oh no! Definitely try to get a cheaper rent, they can only say no. I'd be expecting him to be helping you buy back more furniture too to be honest - what you sold it for to quickly get rid of it is not the same amount of money needed to refurbish your house.

GetTheCarPenfold · 10/09/2021 13:22

Does his 15yo DD realise that she won't be seeing you or your DD for girly company any more as a result of her diva-ish statement regarding flouncing off to her auntie's if she doesn't get to over-rule her dad ?

Is the auntie possibly behind this, is she the deceased wife's sister ?

Singlebutmarried · 10/09/2021 13:22

Oh OP how awful for you.

Are there any cheaper areas nearby? After all of the relationship is kaput then you don’t need to be close to your ex.

Billandben444 · 10/09/2021 13:27

I'm sorry but we'll done for deciding it's over. Yes, get the deposit money before you ditch him as he owes you that much for messing with you. Good luck 💐

TheChiefJo · 10/09/2021 13:27

@Singlebutmarried

Oh OP how awful for you.

Are there any cheaper areas nearby? After all of the relationship is kaput then you don’t need to be close to your ex.

This. If the relationship is over or not the same, could a move further away open up cheaper possibilities?
devildeepbluesea · 10/09/2021 13:28

What an awful situation and how dreadfully you've been treated.
I really hope you find somewhere lovely and make sure you get the cash out of your soon-to-be-ex.

Disfordarkchocolate · 10/09/2021 13:28

He's doing her no favours at all allowing her to act like this.

Definitely ask the landlords, it only takes a month or two with no tenant to make it worth their while. Good luck.

Aprilx · 10/09/2021 13:35

Wow, he really blew up your world without a care didn’t he. I am also glad to hear that the relationship is over. To your actual question, yes of course ask, it isn’t cheeky to negotiate on a commercial arrangement.

SirVixofVixHall · 10/09/2021 13:35

Can you talk to your partner and his dd and maybe decide to do a trial period, so she doesn’t feel as though she has no choice? Her Dad is the only parent she has and I expect that she is worried she won’t get any of his attention, or just the fear of a big change.
It seems odd to me that you and your dp have been together for years and yet you haven’t thrashed this out together, could it actually be him who has cold feet ? Is he blaming his dd when it is actually him ?

WizardOfAus · 10/09/2021 13:36

I haven’t spoken to my partner since yesterday morning after he decided to send me links to a property in the next town (a 1 bed flat above a youth hostel). This was the first I’d heard from after he told me that his daughter didn’t want me to move in. He has kindly told me he will loan me the money for a deposit on another rental if needs be. No apology or any concerns for my well-being, he’s just carried on as normal.

Are you 100% sure it's his daughter who doesn't want you to move in? Have you spoken to her directly about it?

Reading between the lines, I suspect it's actually HIM that doesn't want you to move in. He's the one having second thoughts.

The fact you've barely heard from him makes me wonder if he's just put all the blame onto his daughter.

LopsidedWombat · 10/09/2021 13:44

God I can't believe that he didn't explain that it was too late to change the plan and then at least see how it goes. Children can be fickle, leaving you in the lurch like this on her say so is such appalling treatment. I'm sorry.

Definitely try and negotiate prices and pets, surely the worst that can happen is they say no.

Baffy · 10/09/2021 13:48

Wow, at the very least he should be telling his dd that this is unfortunately not how things work in the real world, and at the very least let you move in for the next 6 months to see how it goes and how you all feel.

From the way he's behaving though it sounds like even that would be too little too late now. So sorry for you op.

Hopeisnotastrategy · 10/09/2021 13:49

@SukonthaM

What a shit situation op, and a horrible way to let you down. From the sounds of things his dd is a bit of a drama queen who has him wrapped around her little finger. At the very least I think he should have told her it’s too late to back out and let you down after you already given up your property/sold furniture etc, so you’ll have to move in and see if it works out. As for the rentals I’d definitely put a lower offer in. If houses have been sat empty for more than a couple of weeks then it makes sense for landlord to get in whoever they can.
This. DD has been consulted at some length and the repercussions for you, and to an extent your daughter are immemse. Your FP needs to man up and you both present a united, calm front. Have you had this conversation with him?

I'm sorry you're being so badly treated. 💐

LadyOfLittleLeisure · 10/09/2021 13:50

Does he know it's over? What an arsehole, I hope you tell him in no uncertain terms how selfish he is.

starfishmummy · 10/09/2021 13:51

Wha a horrible situation. It's certainly worth trying to negotiate on the iothef rentals on the basis that you notice they have been empty for a while and that your current landlord will provide a reference (but ask them first!).

As your dd is moving to uni anyway then maybe downsizing is possible with a smaller room for her or even just a sofa bed for when she is home for the holidays.

And yes, the relationship would be over for me as well. I would have expected at least a discussion about this.

thesussedguilders · 10/09/2021 13:53

You need to sell yourself as an excellent tenant, and avoid any tales of woe. LLs label tenants that come across as having personal or financial problems as high risk and avoid them.

In your favour you are a single woman with a dc at university. That says low wear and tear, and women rightly or wrongly re assumed to be cleaner, tidier, and more likely to be house proud. You have an excellent reference from your previous LL. Are you in stable employment? If yes, say so. Offer an increased deposit for the pet, and agree to contract terms such as professional carpet cleaning at the end of the let? How big is the dog? Is he very old? LLs will prefer a small short haired dog that isn't incontinent with age (obviously). If he is this say so!

I've let out property before. Happily gave discounts for single tenants, and was open to discussion about pets. LL are looking for the best option for them, which is a low risk tenant. The actually weekly rent is often secondary.

Good luck.

thesussedguilders · 10/09/2021 13:54

ignore the typos!!!

Eddielzzard · 10/09/2021 13:54

That's awful. On one level it's good that he puts his DD first, but when you balance that with his lack of boundaries and the seriousness of the situation, those brownie points are gone. Plus his disregard for how you'll get on now, although he has offered to cover the deposit.

I think it can't hurt to offer a lower rent. Think further though, are you rooted to the area? Maybe you can use the opportunity to move further afield?

user1471538283 · 10/09/2021 13:55

I am so sorry. How insulting to offer you a one bedroom somewhere that isn't suitable, how would he like it?

You obviously will have an excellent reference so I would approach landlords and ask for a reduction. We have cats and I pay a small amount of pet rent. If you could move a little further out could you afford that area?

I hope you find a super home for the three of you.

I would never speak to or see either of them ever again. He let it get this far and then just dropped you but it appears he thinks that you are still together?

Hotchocolate92 · 10/09/2021 13:55

Definitely ask! You've nothing to lose. I've asked before and had rent reductions due to life circumstances.

You've been horribly let down, what a difficult situation. Best of luck moving forwards op.

EatYourVegetables · 10/09/2021 13:57

How awful Flowers

Definitely ask. Some ideas in case it doesn’t work: can you look for a smaller property, now your DD will be at uni, or possibly a property further away, as you’re not bound to staying in the vicinity of your DD’s school or your (soon to be ex) partner’s home?

BobLemon · 10/09/2021 13:58

I’m SO GLAD you’ve said the relationship is over. Blumin heck, I thought your post was going to take a different direction.

As another poster has said - you didn’t put trust in a child, you put trust in an adult. In your DP. And now he’s let you down so, so badly, in a really horrible way, you’ve done the right thing (deciding it’s over), so you keep your head up.

Defo ask if there are any landlords who would consider a lower rate. Especially as it sounds like your existing LL will give you a glowing reference, you may be successful.

ValidUser · 10/09/2021 14:03

YANBU. What an awful situation!

TokyoSushi · 10/09/2021 14:03

Oh OP, this is awful, I really feel for you.

Definitely ask about reduced rent, you've nothing to lose there. Is your daughter going away to uni or staying at home? Either way, perhaps you could consider a slightly wider area now which might help with rental prices?

This is one of those threads where I really, really hope that you get sorted.

Plumtree391 · 10/09/2021 14:04

You can but ask, op.

I'm so sorry you are in this situation, it must be disappointing after you thought all was going well with your boyfriend and his daughter.

It is however better you do not move in with him.

Good luck.