AIBU to think that the American, British and others should return to liberate the Afghani people?

[GreatEelRun]

I don’t usually do politics but my God, this situation is unacceptable. The US, the UK and whoever else was previously involved in the past 20- year restructure of Afghanistan need to return there right now, with additional support and get rid of the Taliban and Isis, no matter how long this takes.

I am utterly disgusted with our govt. The way I see it. we can return now and deal with it, or return in a few years after it’s been brought onto our own soil.

Where is the humanity in this crisis?

I think its too late. I wish I knew what the best course of action is. Given the current crop of politicians it'll be the line of least resistance that they can get away with.

I agree, but I don’t think it will happen

They can't.
Not even the UN can help without upsetting Taliban.

Biden says no, and with the US as lynchpin, and the presidential system as it is, that no is no.

Fuck Biden.

Also, we did this, so YANBU.

How? How would they get rid of them?

Are you volunteering to go?
No, thought not.

what like the sucess of the last 20 years

@TheQueef

They can't. Not even the UN can help without upsetting Taliban.

This. Nothing can be changed now. It’s a bloody awful mess.

YABU - it's a terrible situation, shouldn't have happened in the first place and it's not going to end well.

Blaming our current government won't do any good - with Biden insistent on pulling out the US there's limited actions the UK can take.

Also as someone who had parents in Afghanistan as a child I think it is very U to suggest sending people (parents included!) out to a situation where many of them will be killed in attacks.

We will never be able to ‘get rid of them’ so I think YABU.

That said the evacuation is one of the worst things I’ve ever witnessed. Those poor poor people.

Off you pop then!

I just wanted to say that Afghani is their currency, not a way to describe the people who live there. I’m also appalled at how quickly this has all just gone to shit. There should have been a very robust handing over period to make sure the withdrawal was done at a pace that kept the Taliban at bay. I just can’t imagine having family over there but it does make me think of how Hitler got his hooks in and got away with it, while the rest of the world sort of shrugged and looked the other way - you watch documentaries and you think how on earth were they able to murder so many, and then realise that it’s still happening…

I don't know what the solution is but I'm ashamed of the way our goverment has behaved .

People say we didn't have any choice - maybe - but we were woefully unprepared - caught sleeping on the job - and even now if you listen to Boris this evening - he is in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks people will carry on being able to leave after we go, and that we have got most people out - he's simply not being honest.

Are you also going to be on that flight back? Don’t volunteer the lives of young soldiers if you aren’t going yourself.

Happy to see more of your countrymen and it is overwhelmingly men, die in order for this to happen?

I'm not.

it does make me think of how Hitler got his hooks in and got away with it, while the rest of the world sort of shrugged and looked the other way

That wasn’t what happened. 20 million people died in process of defeating him.

I live in Wootton Bassett.
I've seen far too many coffins process up our high street to want to send any more of our young men and women back to Afghanistan to fight a futile war.

Not our government's fault, blame Biden. At least we tried to change his mind.

The Taliban cannot be beaten, they just melt back into society and bide their time. We would have to be there forever. Negotiating with the leaders and thinking they'd keep their word was crazy. The US government wasn't interested in listening to those on the ground saying the Afghan army wasn't ready, that the Afghan government weren't prepared, that corruption and illiteracy were rife even amongst those high up, that the Taliban paid more. It's just a totally shit situation that the US government didn't have a handle on or weren't interested in having a handle on any more.

Haven't we spent 20 years trying to do that? This is a defeat as much as a withdrawal.

They can't even secure the airport long enough to get our own people out so little hope they could liberate the entire country.

@MrsFin

I live in Wootton Bassett. I've seen far too many coffins process up our high street to want to send any more of our young men and women back to Afghanistan to fight a futile war.

You're right, but now everything they fought for was a waste of time. It's all so depressing :-(

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This is not a problem we can solve.