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At my wit's end with drunk neighbour and her friends

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Skedaddle465 · 18/08/2021 00:04

Surely keeping your neighbours awake until the early hours, or alternatively waking them up at 3am, EVERY WEEKEND is unreasonable?

Background:
I've lived in my terraced house on a small quiet street for 11 years. Never had a problem with neighbours or noise until the last 4 months and I'm at my wit's end. I feel so on edge every weekend.

For a few years the house that shares my living/dining room and bedroom walls was home to a family with 4 kids. Most recently it was a young couple with a dog. Previously I'd hear some normal day to day stuff from that side, sure they heard it from me, but it was nothing annoying or interfered with daily life or sleep. Nothing anyone ever needed to mention. We knew each other to say hello, exchange a Christmas card. That's about it.

The family in the house behind has a big do once a year but that shuts down around midnight. It's not a party area at all. It's mainly older people and a few families.

I say all this to show I know what the noise level between the properties is. I'm not new to it.

Problem:

The young couple next door sold the house earlier this year. A young woman (mid to late twenties) moved in, with her young daughter, during last lockdown. During the week it's fine. But at the weekend the daughter is with the dad and my neighbour has her mates around. From the first weekend she moved in, it's been almost every Saturday night. So over 4 months of either being kept awake until 2/3am, or woken anywhere between 3-5am by her coming home with friends and carrying on the party.

It started during lockdown (which was even more frustrating) and I hoped once places reopened she'd be someone who was out in a bar or club. But I suspect she's the only one of the group with her own place and so they all come here. Sometimes when they're too hammered to go back to their own places. Other times they just stay here for the long haul.

Once the summer arrived they moved to sitting in the garden until 3am or later, with music playing inside the house loud enough for them to hear outside. Which means I can hear it from all directions. The street is dark, every house and garden is dark, because it's night time, and she and her friends are out their with lights on, music playing, wittering away and breaking into song. I've heard other houses slam windows shut. She's oblivious. Because she's off her face.

The more they drink, the louder the get. And they drink A LOT. Mixed with energy drinks. The "babe" the "omg" and the cackling. I can hear whole conversations, the exact songs they're asking Alexa to play so they can sing bad karaoke.

The first time, back in April, I let it go, thinking she was lonely in her new place and also wanted to show it off to her friends. The following week, when they came home and at 4am and sang karaoke until 8am, I put a note through the door. Polite - welcome to the street, hope you're settling in, but you might not realise the walls aren't that thick and you woke me from 4am-8am. Last week you kept me awake until 2am. I could actually hear quite a lot of the conversation and some of it sounded very personal and you might not want neighbours not know that much detail. Thought you should know.

She posted sweet apology note back, said she was really sorry, didn't realise and would keep it down.

And then has carried on exactly as before. Every weekend.

They are so loud that even through the wall I know, for example, that her parents bought the house for her after her latest breakup, of which there have been several (her friend proclaimed her to be amazing and, I quote: "I'm going to use a big word, she's....resilient"). One of her friends hates everyone they work with and is annoyed they didn't get a promotion. Her older sister, ironically, wants to move house because her "neighbours are trash". Someone's boyfriend cheated, but they "don't need that baggage". Literally, I know everything about them it's that loud. All to a soundtrack provided by Alexa, who's called on regularly.

I have tried banging on the wall at 1am. I've tried loudly slamming my windows shut at 2am when they're in the garden. I even resorted to desperately shouting "please, please keep it down" when they woke me at 3.45am coming home shouting "Alexa, play 'happy and healthy" and proceeded to try and learn it by playing it on a loop and shrieking. That was despite me going to bed in earplugs. Nothing worked.

On advice from a friend who's had a similar problem in the past I've kept a log of all the incidents so that I could report it to the council. I also kept a copy of my original note and her reply. But I really don't want to have to go down formal channels. I also live alone and hate confrontation. Covid has meant working from home too, so I'm literally here all the time. I don't want any trouble or animosity.

But this past weekend when she had 3 people arrive at midnight and stayed out in the garden with music playing from inside the house and raised voices and cackling every other word was "babe" or "f", until after 2am, I just couldn't take it anymore. When I called out that people were trying to sleep, one of them told me to f off....

I put a handwritten letter through the door the next day saying that the noise from her house and garden was continuing to disturb me and I suspect several other houses. Specifically on these occasions (listed every date and time from last 4 months to show the clear pattern), that in 11 years no one in the street had made the amount of disturbance she had, and in the last 4 months I've bought industrial earplugs and new headphones just to try and get some peace at weekends. That I can't relax when it sounds like the party is in my house, that it's increasingly stressful not knowing when it will end and I can go to bed, or if it's quiet and I go to sleep will I be woken up in the early hours? This is despite the ear plugs. That I have sought advice and can take this to the council but wanted to approach her again first, and she had promised to keep it down back in April. I'd rather solve it informally. But that she and her friends could go to any number of places to party, but her neighbours have nowhere else they can sleep. Please can this issue be ended now.

I've not had a response and honestly I hate confrontation and don't particularly want one. I just want it to stop.

The neighbours the other side of her (the end of the row) are away every weekend with their caravan (lucky them) and so can't back me up by saying anything.

I feel like I'm alone in a weekly nightmare and I don't understand why she doesn't see that her behaviour is too much. But I'm pretty sure it's because she's so hammered she has no idea what day or time it is, let alone notice that every house in the street is trying to sleep.

OP posts:
Hawkins001 · 18/08/2021 00:13

All the best op

Duchess379 · 18/08/2021 00:14

I'm afraid you're going to have to put your 'big girl' pants on & go speak to her when the party starts. Tell her it's not on & your tired & have to work at the weekend (small white lie, I know) You can report her to the council but I know, from experience they are next to useless. And the police don't get involved with noise complaints.. Good luck 🤞

Clocktopus · 18/08/2021 00:15

Contact the noise abatement team at your local council, give them your log of times and days and tell them you want them to investigate/monitor it.

MrsMoastyToasty · 18/08/2021 00:28

You phone the police.
Every
Single
Time.

Balgoresboy · 18/08/2021 00:32

''But I really don't want to have to go down formal channels. I also live alone and hate confrontation. Covid has meant working from home too, so I'm literally here all the time. I don't want any trouble or animosity.''

there is your problem then, they have given you no choice but to go that route -do it. I would and I have. And yes there already is 'trouble' here, what exactly can she do if you report it? If she harasses you just call the cops.

Balgoresboy · 18/08/2021 00:32

'You phone the police.
Every
Single
Time.'

police won't do anything, it's up to the council ime.

Puddington · 18/08/2021 00:49

I'm so sorry OP, I have nothing but sympathy and truly hope the council or otherwise will be on your side and proactive. Being subjected to this is horrific and I can't believe what utter ignorant bastards some people are.

I had something similar in my old house (which was a terraced too, but on one side I barely ever heard anything, and nobody else in the street was like this either) except it was a bunch of men living together constantly having people over, shouting, banging about, playing music and TV at full blast, a dog that barked nonstop... The lack of sleep and always being on edge in my own house drove me to absolute distraction, I am hyper-sensitive to noises to this day. I spoke to them nicely at first and, eventually, more abruptly (I also hate confrontation and lived alone at the time and was worried they would do something but I was just going slowly demented with it), they always vaguely apologised but went right back to it the next day. The council weren't interested or helpful at all and when I eventually lost it enough to call the police for a 4AM party (when I had to get up at 6AM for work), they just told them to keep it down a bit and then left. The men couldn't have cared less. I only escaped it by moving away.

Danikm151 · 18/08/2021 00:50

Time to report to the council. There are ordinances in place for noise levels at night. There is only so much a person can take

Chloemol · 18/08/2021 00:51

Phone he police every time. Contact the noise abatement team at the council. Continue with the diary and I would also try and records some of the noise

Bananarama21 · 18/08/2021 00:56

I voted yabu on basis you've allowed this to go in so long and should report it to environmental health.

CatNameChange101 · 18/08/2021 01:01

Report to social services? Are you sure child is away each time??

Jellybean100 · 18/08/2021 01:07

Why would social services be interested Confused

Ring the police whenever she’s loud and disturbing you past 11pm especially loud music etc. It’s a very difficult situation you have my sympathies but she has left you with no other options

CatNameChange101 · 18/08/2021 01:09

As I said ‘is the child away each time?’

JemimaTab · 18/08/2021 01:12

Depends where you live, but consider the police - they’ve come out to multiple noise complaints on my road (London), and shut parties down. So they definitely can get involved. (I think it comes under anti-social behaviour).

Taciturn · 18/08/2021 01:20

Have you thought about taking a recording and sending it to her parents? If they bought the place, do they own or and she is a tenant? Regardless, you can let them know how their investment is going.

I would also suggest regurgitating all the personal gossip you hear back to her and see if she squirms. This is probably no good if you don't care for confrontation, but the message might penetrate.

BrozTito · 18/08/2021 01:21

Pisses me right off i have to live in a slum with other people due to housing costs but nobheads like this just have it fall in front of them and take it completely for granted.

CoopersHawke · 18/08/2021 01:27

I don't want any trouble or animosity.

You've already got it, so your choices are to deal with it, or to move.

If you choose the former option, contact Environmental Services at your Council. They will be on your side. They will probably ask you to keep an official log for two weeks (even though you've already done so ) and after that they will install recording equipment to gather evidence. It's a lengthy process so best get on with it.

BrozTito · 18/08/2021 01:33

Id actually set a hose on the pricks if they told me to fuck off. Gone beyond confrontation. The brat isnt 18 anymore and needs a firm painful lesson

AntiHop · 18/08/2021 01:40

You have my sympathies op. That would drive me mental.

Skedaddle465 · 18/08/2021 21:04

Thanks for everyone's responses. I've not heard a peep from her so far this week since I put the note letter through her door on Sunday, but the weekend will be the big test.

I did get some good news though. My parents live nearby and bumped into my neighbours on the other side (older couple and their adult son).
Were friendly enough but mostly in passing and I've not spoken to them about this. They got chatting and my Dad mentioned the problems I was having and the neighbours said they'd not heard it until this past weekend but it was definitely awful on that occasion, and I should definitely complain to the council. They and some others had done it in the past for a house that backed onto them and the people eventually moved out. So if I do take it further they would back me for at least last weekends disturbance.

They also said they hoped I wouldn't move because I was 'good as gold'! Which made me feel so much better.

OP posts:
StanVic49 · 18/08/2021 21:12

I’ve been there with previous neighbours - they lived 2 doors down and we could hear the music word for word every Friday and Saturday night. Tried to be nice with a knock on the door and then a polite letter after a pile of vomit was ‘left’ outside my house. Nothing. She didn’t give 2 f. Made me feel ill finishing work every Friday evening as I knew what I was in for over the weekend. After months of it happening, I popped into the police station and spoke with the local community support officer and this turned out to be the best thing. Never heard a peep again.

The ironic thing is that she fell pregnant a few months later and would moan about anything waking her child up 🙄 She came round and apologised as well as she realised the hell she’d put us through.

Lcachu · 18/08/2021 21:23

So I had this problem. Not neighbour's next to me but across the road in a council property. Paying bass music from their car for HOURS on end every weekend. Our house would literally shake. Went on for about 5 years. From my local community forum it transpired this person was pissing everyone off and when lots of people confronted him he still wouldn't do anything.

I kept videos and logs of all the incidents and was given a diary form from the Environmental Noise Agency. The council (well mine specifically) were useless. Contact the environmental agency.

On one occasion I had to call the police it was that bad and whilst people on here have said the police won't do anything as it's a domestic dispute - on the one occasion I called them they said they had received lots of complaints from different neighbours and were sending someone out - so sometimes they do respond to noise disturbances.

In the end the local council wrote to the tenant in question and threatened to chuck them out. As your neighbour is a private owner I'm not sure whether the council could actually do anything.

The environmental agency will usually suggest a mediator I think.

Good luck. I really feel for you!

Neron · 18/08/2021 21:37

I think you're being too kind - she's well aware of her behaviour, she just doesn't give a stuff about it to change it.

You have my sympathies, I've been there and it had a significant detrimental toll on my mental health. I tried the pleasant route, the police route (who did come out), and the lawful route. In the end I lost my shit (understatement) and it stopped. I definitely don't recommend it, I'm ashamed of it.

Log it every time with the council ASB team, as well as the online police report. I definitely feel people are let down and just expected to put up with others selfish and inconsiderate behaviour. More should be done, and quicker.

Bettysnow · 18/08/2021 22:02

Can you call to her house to speak with her through the week? Might be an idea? Explain that her reply to your note was kind but basically futile as nothing changed.
The sitting in the garden half the night blasting music and screeching while some ignoramus tells you to eff off is way out of order.
I know people are saying the police won't do anything but i know of a few occasions where similar occurred and the police were rang. Ultimately a few of the party goers got themselves arrested for being verbally abusive to them.
I would also speak with a few of the neighbours maybe with a view to all signing a letter telling her in no uncertain terms that if her antisocial behaviour continues then she will be reported to noise abatement. Good luck op hopefully you'll get some peace soon

Crimeismymiddlename · 18/08/2021 22:02

Go to council, start ring the police every time. She is not bothered that you are losing sleep. It’s a shame she owns the house as no landlord to complain to. Make it harder for her to be a dick, and stop caring about being a ‘good’ neighbour-do what you like even if it is a weeknight and her child is in bed, outdoor cinema night, a jumping about workout to dance music that needs to be really loud, use the washing machine when you want-just stop caring, also stop being such a pushover-next time just go over and shout at her-the neighbours will be awake anyway: