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At my wit's end with drunk neighbour and her friends

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Skedaddle465 · 18/08/2021 00:04

Surely keeping your neighbours awake until the early hours, or alternatively waking them up at 3am, EVERY WEEKEND is unreasonable?

Background:
I've lived in my terraced house on a small quiet street for 11 years. Never had a problem with neighbours or noise until the last 4 months and I'm at my wit's end. I feel so on edge every weekend.

For a few years the house that shares my living/dining room and bedroom walls was home to a family with 4 kids. Most recently it was a young couple with a dog. Previously I'd hear some normal day to day stuff from that side, sure they heard it from me, but it was nothing annoying or interfered with daily life or sleep. Nothing anyone ever needed to mention. We knew each other to say hello, exchange a Christmas card. That's about it.

The family in the house behind has a big do once a year but that shuts down around midnight. It's not a party area at all. It's mainly older people and a few families.

I say all this to show I know what the noise level between the properties is. I'm not new to it.

Problem:

The young couple next door sold the house earlier this year. A young woman (mid to late twenties) moved in, with her young daughter, during last lockdown. During the week it's fine. But at the weekend the daughter is with the dad and my neighbour has her mates around. From the first weekend she moved in, it's been almost every Saturday night. So over 4 months of either being kept awake until 2/3am, or woken anywhere between 3-5am by her coming home with friends and carrying on the party.

It started during lockdown (which was even more frustrating) and I hoped once places reopened she'd be someone who was out in a bar or club. But I suspect she's the only one of the group with her own place and so they all come here. Sometimes when they're too hammered to go back to their own places. Other times they just stay here for the long haul.

Once the summer arrived they moved to sitting in the garden until 3am or later, with music playing inside the house loud enough for them to hear outside. Which means I can hear it from all directions. The street is dark, every house and garden is dark, because it's night time, and she and her friends are out their with lights on, music playing, wittering away and breaking into song. I've heard other houses slam windows shut. She's oblivious. Because she's off her face.

The more they drink, the louder the get. And they drink A LOT. Mixed with energy drinks. The "babe" the "omg" and the cackling. I can hear whole conversations, the exact songs they're asking Alexa to play so they can sing bad karaoke.

The first time, back in April, I let it go, thinking she was lonely in her new place and also wanted to show it off to her friends. The following week, when they came home and at 4am and sang karaoke until 8am, I put a note through the door. Polite - welcome to the street, hope you're settling in, but you might not realise the walls aren't that thick and you woke me from 4am-8am. Last week you kept me awake until 2am. I could actually hear quite a lot of the conversation and some of it sounded very personal and you might not want neighbours not know that much detail. Thought you should know.

She posted sweet apology note back, said she was really sorry, didn't realise and would keep it down.

And then has carried on exactly as before. Every weekend.

They are so loud that even through the wall I know, for example, that her parents bought the house for her after her latest breakup, of which there have been several (her friend proclaimed her to be amazing and, I quote: "I'm going to use a big word, she's....resilient"). One of her friends hates everyone they work with and is annoyed they didn't get a promotion. Her older sister, ironically, wants to move house because her "neighbours are trash". Someone's boyfriend cheated, but they "don't need that baggage". Literally, I know everything about them it's that loud. All to a soundtrack provided by Alexa, who's called on regularly.

I have tried banging on the wall at 1am. I've tried loudly slamming my windows shut at 2am when they're in the garden. I even resorted to desperately shouting "please, please keep it down" when they woke me at 3.45am coming home shouting "Alexa, play 'happy and healthy" and proceeded to try and learn it by playing it on a loop and shrieking. That was despite me going to bed in earplugs. Nothing worked.

On advice from a friend who's had a similar problem in the past I've kept a log of all the incidents so that I could report it to the council. I also kept a copy of my original note and her reply. But I really don't want to have to go down formal channels. I also live alone and hate confrontation. Covid has meant working from home too, so I'm literally here all the time. I don't want any trouble or animosity.

But this past weekend when she had 3 people arrive at midnight and stayed out in the garden with music playing from inside the house and raised voices and cackling every other word was "babe" or "f", until after 2am, I just couldn't take it anymore. When I called out that people were trying to sleep, one of them told me to f off....

I put a handwritten letter through the door the next day saying that the noise from her house and garden was continuing to disturb me and I suspect several other houses. Specifically on these occasions (listed every date and time from last 4 months to show the clear pattern), that in 11 years no one in the street had made the amount of disturbance she had, and in the last 4 months I've bought industrial earplugs and new headphones just to try and get some peace at weekends. That I can't relax when it sounds like the party is in my house, that it's increasingly stressful not knowing when it will end and I can go to bed, or if it's quiet and I go to sleep will I be woken up in the early hours? This is despite the ear plugs. That I have sought advice and can take this to the council but wanted to approach her again first, and she had promised to keep it down back in April. I'd rather solve it informally. But that she and her friends could go to any number of places to party, but her neighbours have nowhere else they can sleep. Please can this issue be ended now.

I've not had a response and honestly I hate confrontation and don't particularly want one. I just want it to stop.

The neighbours the other side of her (the end of the row) are away every weekend with their caravan (lucky them) and so can't back me up by saying anything.

I feel like I'm alone in a weekly nightmare and I don't understand why she doesn't see that her behaviour is too much. But I'm pretty sure it's because she's so hammered she has no idea what day or time it is, let alone notice that every house in the street is trying to sleep.

OP posts:
fruckkkit · 25/10/2021 18:56

Oh OP. I'd be ditching the polite notes and PA door slamming, and hammer on her door and go full banshee on her, and contacting her parents if I could, and the council / environmental health. You need to go in all gun blazing here, she's not going to take any notice otherwise.

mamaoffourdc · 25/10/2021 19:10

I would write to the parents saying that their "tenant" is a noise nuisance and if it carry's only you will have to call the police - it is their best interests it doesn't get to that if they ever want to sell the house

vixeyann · 25/10/2021 19:14

You do everything you can to make her life as inconvenient as she makes yours. You log every noise complaint, call they police when they argue - generally bombard her. To be honest I would go round there and give her shit. A lot of people back down when they have to face an angry person face on. Polite notes don't cut it in this situation and obviously have no effect.

LowlandLucky · 25/10/2021 19:22

OP I feel for you i really do but you only have 3 options, move, put up with it or report it. If you are going to move don't report it or you will have to reveal it to any potential buyers.

HestersSamplerofCarrots · 25/10/2021 19:26

For gods sake! Stop sticking notes through her bloody door and actually speak to her! I have no doubt that if you actually told the noisy madam face to face that 20 of your colleagues on a work presentation over teams heard her going at it hammer and tongs with her new boyfriend she’d be far more likely to keep it down than a note shoved through her door!

You’ve made it clear that you have no intention of moving so talk to the council about anti+social behaviour and nuisance noise. Get them to give you a noise monitor, give them your logs, and stop pussy footing about.

SoniaFouler · 25/10/2021 19:59

I thought this thread sounded familiar when I first started reading it and wondered what the update was. I feel for you OP. I echo was cherry said, it may be that you have to move. There has been two months between these incidents and whilst there may have been initial improvement, it’s been proven to you that this will not get better in the long run. It’s two months now, but ask yourself honestly: Could you put up with this for another two years?

LoveGoldberg · 25/10/2021 20:04

I would loudly watch something inappropriate at her kids bedtime! That might make her realise how far the noise travels.

CSIblonde · 25/10/2021 20:37

I'd be up at 7am hoovering the room next to her bedroom. For an hour. And complain every time to her & then environmental dept. Its easy for her to brush off 1 complaint rather than a persistent one.

Cas112 · 25/10/2021 20:45

You need to catch her on a day she’s sober and on her own and tell her face to face how you feel and that you hear her having sex. Or record the noice and play it to her when you see her. Embarrass her, I bet she will soon stop.

Wiredforsound · 25/10/2021 20:52

OP, every time she starts shagging play some Barry White or Celine Dion really loudly.

TaraR2020 · 25/10/2021 20:53

Can you have a chat with your neighbours? Presumably they will have heard the loud sex as well now (or have they been away each time?)

I think you could do with neighbourly back up Flowers

The main note seems to have worked, but I'm not sure that the notes about her loud sex won't have had the opposite effect I'm afraid Flowers

StoneofDestiny · 25/10/2021 21:34

Assume you have recorded the noise?

hellsbells323 · 25/10/2021 21:47

Ring the council. Log everything and eventually they will give you noise recording equipment so that you can record any disturbances. They'll also write formally to her. And if it continues they can remove her stereo/sources of noise (not sure how that would work with sex noises however 🤢).

The polite notes are not cutting it. She is inconsiderate and doesn't care. I would actually say it's more confrontational to carry on with the notes than it is to get the council involved and have them write to her instead. She won't even know for sure that it's you who reported her.

Lightswitch123 · 25/10/2021 21:56

Garden sprinklers on a timer for the lawn that "accidently" overshoot her fence every Friday and Saturday night? 😆😁

TheBlackArt · 25/10/2021 21:59

@hellsbells323

Ring the council. Log everything and eventually they will give you noise recording equipment so that you can record any disturbances. They'll also write formally to her. And if it continues they can remove her stereo/sources of noise (not sure how that would work with sex noises however 🤢).

The polite notes are not cutting it. She is inconsiderate and doesn't care. I would actually say it's more confrontational to carry on with the notes than it is to get the council involved and have them write to her instead. She won't even know for sure that it's you who reported her.

Absolutely this.

You've done the notes - it's not working. Either knock her door and speak to her face to face, or report her.

DixonD · 25/10/2021 22:02

@Balgoresboy

''If there's excess noise past 11pm then the Police will attend if they have a car available & ask them to keep it down due to noise disturbance.''

I don't why people keep saying this. Having had countless experiences of this in London I have rang the cops countless times and they always say it's a council matter.

Because they WILL come out; your personal experience does not make it a general rule.

Someone I know always has the police at the door every time she has a gathering. Her neighbours don’t like her and report her for noise every time she has her friends over.

kweeble · 25/10/2021 22:09

The Council won't take much notice of your notes - they need to be told now and then they will give you a number to call whenever there's a nuisance. My council has someone on call at night and they measure the noise and take action.

WhoIsBernieBrown · 25/10/2021 22:12

Oh OP. I almost wonder if she's hamming up the sex noises to piss you off. After all the notes, she probably has a bit of a vendetta, especially if she's as immature as she sounds.

Definitely stop the notes and play loud music whenever they are at it, or hoover the wall very enthusiastically. Fingers crossed the love affair fizzles out ASAP!

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 25/10/2021 22:17

Set up an automatic hose. Every time they start outside fire up the hose. Hose the fuckers down!

Anonanon1234 · 25/10/2021 22:26

I feel your pain. My walls are annoyingly thin and I have a new neighbour that is a party animal/very loud shagger. It is doing my head in. I have lived here, peacefully, for a decade without any issues.
This lady has lived there and made more noise in 6 months, than previous neighbours in a decade (not the same family for that time either)

It is incredibly stressful and I fantasise about moving house now

PeachesPumpkin · 25/10/2021 22:34

@LowlandLucky

OP I feel for you i really do but you only have 3 options, move, put up with it or report it. If you are going to move don't report it or you will have to reveal it to any potential buyers.
But she should tell potential buyers anyway - it would be very unfair not to. They are going to suffer exactly as the OP does.
AngelDelightUk · 25/10/2021 22:53

Definitely report it. Enough is enough

Furtherdownthespiral · 25/10/2021 23:02

You have my sympathies OP, I have a nightmare neighbour too but luckily we are both HA tenants and my housing officer came down hard on him and he is behaving now (after several months of me complaining).

I would record them when they kick off and play it back over a speaker (loud) the day after. Hopefully she will be mortified to hear her rowdiness/arguing/sex noises in the cold light of sobriety and will pack it in. Best of luck

Pumasonsatsumas · 25/10/2021 23:08

Just report it for goodness' sake

Kiduknot · 25/10/2021 23:10

It’s a pity you didn’t go round and thank her when it all stopped previously. Once you’d built up a decent relationship it would have been easier to tackle these new noises.

Be careful about how you handle this or she might restart the loud partying as well as the loud sex.