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At my wit's end with drunk neighbour and her friends

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Skedaddle465 · 18/08/2021 00:04

Surely keeping your neighbours awake until the early hours, or alternatively waking them up at 3am, EVERY WEEKEND is unreasonable?

Background:
I've lived in my terraced house on a small quiet street for 11 years. Never had a problem with neighbours or noise until the last 4 months and I'm at my wit's end. I feel so on edge every weekend.

For a few years the house that shares my living/dining room and bedroom walls was home to a family with 4 kids. Most recently it was a young couple with a dog. Previously I'd hear some normal day to day stuff from that side, sure they heard it from me, but it was nothing annoying or interfered with daily life or sleep. Nothing anyone ever needed to mention. We knew each other to say hello, exchange a Christmas card. That's about it.

The family in the house behind has a big do once a year but that shuts down around midnight. It's not a party area at all. It's mainly older people and a few families.

I say all this to show I know what the noise level between the properties is. I'm not new to it.

Problem:

The young couple next door sold the house earlier this year. A young woman (mid to late twenties) moved in, with her young daughter, during last lockdown. During the week it's fine. But at the weekend the daughter is with the dad and my neighbour has her mates around. From the first weekend she moved in, it's been almost every Saturday night. So over 4 months of either being kept awake until 2/3am, or woken anywhere between 3-5am by her coming home with friends and carrying on the party.

It started during lockdown (which was even more frustrating) and I hoped once places reopened she'd be someone who was out in a bar or club. But I suspect she's the only one of the group with her own place and so they all come here. Sometimes when they're too hammered to go back to their own places. Other times they just stay here for the long haul.

Once the summer arrived they moved to sitting in the garden until 3am or later, with music playing inside the house loud enough for them to hear outside. Which means I can hear it from all directions. The street is dark, every house and garden is dark, because it's night time, and she and her friends are out their with lights on, music playing, wittering away and breaking into song. I've heard other houses slam windows shut. She's oblivious. Because she's off her face.

The more they drink, the louder the get. And they drink A LOT. Mixed with energy drinks. The "babe" the "omg" and the cackling. I can hear whole conversations, the exact songs they're asking Alexa to play so they can sing bad karaoke.

The first time, back in April, I let it go, thinking she was lonely in her new place and also wanted to show it off to her friends. The following week, when they came home and at 4am and sang karaoke until 8am, I put a note through the door. Polite - welcome to the street, hope you're settling in, but you might not realise the walls aren't that thick and you woke me from 4am-8am. Last week you kept me awake until 2am. I could actually hear quite a lot of the conversation and some of it sounded very personal and you might not want neighbours not know that much detail. Thought you should know.

She posted sweet apology note back, said she was really sorry, didn't realise and would keep it down.

And then has carried on exactly as before. Every weekend.

They are so loud that even through the wall I know, for example, that her parents bought the house for her after her latest breakup, of which there have been several (her friend proclaimed her to be amazing and, I quote: "I'm going to use a big word, she's....resilient"). One of her friends hates everyone they work with and is annoyed they didn't get a promotion. Her older sister, ironically, wants to move house because her "neighbours are trash". Someone's boyfriend cheated, but they "don't need that baggage". Literally, I know everything about them it's that loud. All to a soundtrack provided by Alexa, who's called on regularly.

I have tried banging on the wall at 1am. I've tried loudly slamming my windows shut at 2am when they're in the garden. I even resorted to desperately shouting "please, please keep it down" when they woke me at 3.45am coming home shouting "Alexa, play 'happy and healthy" and proceeded to try and learn it by playing it on a loop and shrieking. That was despite me going to bed in earplugs. Nothing worked.

On advice from a friend who's had a similar problem in the past I've kept a log of all the incidents so that I could report it to the council. I also kept a copy of my original note and her reply. But I really don't want to have to go down formal channels. I also live alone and hate confrontation. Covid has meant working from home too, so I'm literally here all the time. I don't want any trouble or animosity.

But this past weekend when she had 3 people arrive at midnight and stayed out in the garden with music playing from inside the house and raised voices and cackling every other word was "babe" or "f", until after 2am, I just couldn't take it anymore. When I called out that people were trying to sleep, one of them told me to f off....

I put a handwritten letter through the door the next day saying that the noise from her house and garden was continuing to disturb me and I suspect several other houses. Specifically on these occasions (listed every date and time from last 4 months to show the clear pattern), that in 11 years no one in the street had made the amount of disturbance she had, and in the last 4 months I've bought industrial earplugs and new headphones just to try and get some peace at weekends. That I can't relax when it sounds like the party is in my house, that it's increasingly stressful not knowing when it will end and I can go to bed, or if it's quiet and I go to sleep will I be woken up in the early hours? This is despite the ear plugs. That I have sought advice and can take this to the council but wanted to approach her again first, and she had promised to keep it down back in April. I'd rather solve it informally. But that she and her friends could go to any number of places to party, but her neighbours have nowhere else they can sleep. Please can this issue be ended now.

I've not had a response and honestly I hate confrontation and don't particularly want one. I just want it to stop.

The neighbours the other side of her (the end of the row) are away every weekend with their caravan (lucky them) and so can't back me up by saying anything.

I feel like I'm alone in a weekly nightmare and I don't understand why she doesn't see that her behaviour is too much. But I'm pretty sure it's because she's so hammered she has no idea what day or time it is, let alone notice that every house in the street is trying to sleep.

OP posts:
Muckymaisonette · 04/07/2022 06:29

Isn’t it the district councils who deal with noise complaints now, not the Police?

DaisyStPatience · 04/07/2022 07:23

So did you do the council noise complaint?

SofiaAmes · 04/07/2022 09:58

Is the daughter home when this is happening? If so, you should be reporting to social services.

sashh · 04/07/2022 10:09

I think this has already been said but if you can contact the parents.

I've had problems with noise, where I am now it can be complicated, new houses backing on to old but when I lived in a terrace...

Well I had to take the dog for a walk before I went to work and I forgot to turn my music off while I was out and it was such a shame the speakers were pointed at the wall.

Oh and did I mention I worked over an hour's drive away so had to walk the dog at 5.30am.

Where I am now the council have been quite good, but they do not work at the weekends. They gave me an app to record the noise and say what room I was in etc.

They called round to see the woman who likes to party in the garden (set up a sound system) and she made a complaint about my 'male guest and his language', it was with great pleasure I told him that I didn't have a visitor at all, but that I had heard the language.

Phobiaphobic · 04/07/2022 10:13

Yeah, I think I'd be at the stage where I'd be tempted to give as good as I get. There are thousands of ways you could make her life hell.

catzrulz · 04/07/2022 10:14

Wellthatsjustswell · 03/07/2022 18:16

So sorry op, I know how awful it is to have noisy neighbours and mine weren’t even as bad as yours. The stress of it all still made me ill though.
play Akon's 'I've just had sex' at full volume against the bedroom wall...That seemed to shut her up
I do like your style Grin
I hope it works into shaming her to be quieter.

Sounds awful OP, maybe play "my sex is on fire" by The Kings of Leon, full volume obviously 😉

Quicknamechangefortoday · 04/07/2022 10:25

Council, police, social services. Ring them on a loop repeatedly. She’s scum, she sounds a nightmare, there are drugs and a child involved. Can you get the other neighbours together on this one?

Sunshine10012 · 04/07/2022 10:30

Is get a ring cam and point it at their garden. I’d also record everything else I could for evidence then I’d contact the police and council. Also get one of those decibel meters off Amazon.
no point confronting them because they’ve already told you to F off.
All you can do is get them prosecuted, which She will eventually.

Quicknamechangefortoday · 04/07/2022 10:33

If you know where the child goes to school, phone and ask to report to the person in charge of safeguarding. I would have serious concerns about what that little girl is being exposed to.

BlokeHereInPeace · 04/07/2022 10:57

Ex local councillor here. This is horrible.

  1. Stop with the making your own noise. It won't help.
  2. Feel free to call the police when there is shouting, music etc. Say that you believe that drug use is underway and as a lone neighbour you feel threatened. Some will turn up, some won't, but call every time - you have seen that this can have results.
  3. Have you been in touch with the local authority? If you don't know who to contact put your postcode into writetothem.com and contact your Borough of District councillor. Also search Environmental Health on the council's website. You may have done this, I've RTFT but didn't notice this.
  4. Write to her parents - the property owners - every single time something happens. Detail the blokes turning up, all of it.
  5. Wil your neighbours help by all going round together?
Good luck.
Blowthemandown · 04/07/2022 11:00

Have you recorded the noise as well as keeping a log? Would be very useful. While you absolutely were right to do something about this, retaliating (playing music against the wall) doesn't help your case ... sorry if that sounds unkind. I am very sympathetic - this must be absolutely indescribably awful. I'm so sorry 😱

Pumasonsatsumas · 04/07/2022 11:13

There are no consequences for her so she will never change, unless you resort to officia channels

ThreeLittleDots · 04/07/2022 11:21

Unfortunately you will have to declare this nuisance to any future house buyers, and this will devalue your property significantly.

As you're already on that path, I would escalate council complaints, write to her parents and also contact Sanctum - private consultants.

If that didn't work I'd rent the house out and live elsewhere.

ThreeLittleDots · 04/07/2022 11:22

And don't retaliate. This nullifies your case against her.

Pifflewiffle · 04/07/2022 11:42

And don't retaliate. This nullifies your case against her.

I agree with this totally. Not only does it weaken your case it might end up making the situation worse so it turns into a war of attrition. I worked in neighbourhood mediation and we were told to do our absolute best to discourage people from retaliation.

Ohnohedident · 04/07/2022 11:46

Well seeing as she has effectively invited the whole street round to hers every Saturday I would just join in. Open your windows and join the conversations, your going to be awake anyway. Play your own tracks, ask them if they like (pick most annoying music) your choices, they dont, oh what a shame.
Comment very loudly on the conversations, espicially the private ones, let them know you will ask other neighbours what they think.
Just generally invite yourself to her parties, help your self to their drinks and food, its only fair.

Confusion101 · 04/07/2022 11:47

I love that this is going on almost a year, and you have still don't sweet fuck all about it, except send a few childish notes!

Emotionalsupportviper · 04/07/2022 11:51

Clocktopus · 18/08/2021 00:15

Contact the noise abatement team at your local council, give them your log of times and days and tell them you want them to investigate/monitor it.

This - over 10pm is a noise nuisance, I think, especially when it is frequent.

SheWhoWontBeNamed · 04/07/2022 11:53

The police DO get involved with noise complaints. We had this problem with a (also single, female neighbour) and took a video (outside 'party' lights strobing from 7pm to 5am) and so noisy that neighbour's roof was vibrating even when her doors & windows were shut. We tried the polite route and got nowhere. Showed the video to the police when they turned up unexpectedly because neighbour accused us of harassing her! To say that they weren't interested totally wrong. they were horrified at what we'd bee putting up with and said we should have gone to them at once. They went back to neighbour and told her they'd received multiple complaints about the noise from others who didn't know where it was coming from. Now they did, and they had the video evidence to prove it. She was told she'd be prosecuted for wasting police time if she persisted in lying about us, and that the council would be monitoring the situation . We have a hotline number we can call if it happens again. All quiet for weeks now Grin

Ohnohedident · 04/07/2022 11:53

Quicknamechangefortoday · 04/07/2022 10:25

Council, police, social services. Ring them on a loop repeatedly. She’s scum, she sounds a nightmare, there are drugs and a child involved. Can you get the other neighbours together on this one?

I really would not get your hopes up in this direction. Iv had the neighbour from hell for coming on four years not and believe me; noone will help you, none of these agencies will do anything for you.
Im sorry, but you might as well know now than go through the heartach of have hopes dashed as each and evey one of the agencies and organisation supposedly set up to help people bailes on you and leaves you in the shit.

Emotionalsupportviper · 04/07/2022 11:53

Skedaddle465 · 18/08/2021 21:04

Thanks for everyone's responses. I've not heard a peep from her so far this week since I put the note letter through her door on Sunday, but the weekend will be the big test.

I did get some good news though. My parents live nearby and bumped into my neighbours on the other side (older couple and their adult son).
Were friendly enough but mostly in passing and I've not spoken to them about this. They got chatting and my Dad mentioned the problems I was having and the neighbours said they'd not heard it until this past weekend but it was definitely awful on that occasion, and I should definitely complain to the council. They and some others had done it in the past for a house that backed onto them and the people eventually moved out. So if I do take it further they would back me for at least last weekends disturbance.

They also said they hoped I wouldn't move because I was 'good as gold'! Which made me feel so much better.

It would help if they also complained, if they find it a nuisance

SailingNotSurfing · 04/07/2022 11:59

Definitely don't retaliate. It'll turn into a 'he said, she said' scenario and no-one will win.

Keep a log of the noise. Report, report, report. Hopefully her juvenile friends will couple up and settle down and she'll be less of a nuisance.

entropynow · 04/07/2022 12:01

BrozTito · 18/08/2021 01:33

Id actually set a hose on the pricks if they told me to fuck off. Gone beyond confrontation. The brat isnt 18 anymore and needs a firm painful lesson

Brilliant idea. Then you get prosecuted for assault. 🙄

Confusion101 · 04/07/2022 12:24

The woman is in her late 20s! You need to speak to her face to face directly. All this "tell her parents".... My parents would do some laughing if a person came to tattle on their almost 30 year old daughter. Seriously! She's an adult, you are an adult.

WhoAre · 04/07/2022 12:33

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