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At my wit's end with drunk neighbour and her friends

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Skedaddle465 · 18/08/2021 00:04

Surely keeping your neighbours awake until the early hours, or alternatively waking them up at 3am, EVERY WEEKEND is unreasonable?

Background:
I've lived in my terraced house on a small quiet street for 11 years. Never had a problem with neighbours or noise until the last 4 months and I'm at my wit's end. I feel so on edge every weekend.

For a few years the house that shares my living/dining room and bedroom walls was home to a family with 4 kids. Most recently it was a young couple with a dog. Previously I'd hear some normal day to day stuff from that side, sure they heard it from me, but it was nothing annoying or interfered with daily life or sleep. Nothing anyone ever needed to mention. We knew each other to say hello, exchange a Christmas card. That's about it.

The family in the house behind has a big do once a year but that shuts down around midnight. It's not a party area at all. It's mainly older people and a few families.

I say all this to show I know what the noise level between the properties is. I'm not new to it.

Problem:

The young couple next door sold the house earlier this year. A young woman (mid to late twenties) moved in, with her young daughter, during last lockdown. During the week it's fine. But at the weekend the daughter is with the dad and my neighbour has her mates around. From the first weekend she moved in, it's been almost every Saturday night. So over 4 months of either being kept awake until 2/3am, or woken anywhere between 3-5am by her coming home with friends and carrying on the party.

It started during lockdown (which was even more frustrating) and I hoped once places reopened she'd be someone who was out in a bar or club. But I suspect she's the only one of the group with her own place and so they all come here. Sometimes when they're too hammered to go back to their own places. Other times they just stay here for the long haul.

Once the summer arrived they moved to sitting in the garden until 3am or later, with music playing inside the house loud enough for them to hear outside. Which means I can hear it from all directions. The street is dark, every house and garden is dark, because it's night time, and she and her friends are out their with lights on, music playing, wittering away and breaking into song. I've heard other houses slam windows shut. She's oblivious. Because she's off her face.

The more they drink, the louder the get. And they drink A LOT. Mixed with energy drinks. The "babe" the "omg" and the cackling. I can hear whole conversations, the exact songs they're asking Alexa to play so they can sing bad karaoke.

The first time, back in April, I let it go, thinking she was lonely in her new place and also wanted to show it off to her friends. The following week, when they came home and at 4am and sang karaoke until 8am, I put a note through the door. Polite - welcome to the street, hope you're settling in, but you might not realise the walls aren't that thick and you woke me from 4am-8am. Last week you kept me awake until 2am. I could actually hear quite a lot of the conversation and some of it sounded very personal and you might not want neighbours not know that much detail. Thought you should know.

She posted sweet apology note back, said she was really sorry, didn't realise and would keep it down.

And then has carried on exactly as before. Every weekend.

They are so loud that even through the wall I know, for example, that her parents bought the house for her after her latest breakup, of which there have been several (her friend proclaimed her to be amazing and, I quote: "I'm going to use a big word, she's....resilient"). One of her friends hates everyone they work with and is annoyed they didn't get a promotion. Her older sister, ironically, wants to move house because her "neighbours are trash". Someone's boyfriend cheated, but they "don't need that baggage". Literally, I know everything about them it's that loud. All to a soundtrack provided by Alexa, who's called on regularly.

I have tried banging on the wall at 1am. I've tried loudly slamming my windows shut at 2am when they're in the garden. I even resorted to desperately shouting "please, please keep it down" when they woke me at 3.45am coming home shouting "Alexa, play 'happy and healthy" and proceeded to try and learn it by playing it on a loop and shrieking. That was despite me going to bed in earplugs. Nothing worked.

On advice from a friend who's had a similar problem in the past I've kept a log of all the incidents so that I could report it to the council. I also kept a copy of my original note and her reply. But I really don't want to have to go down formal channels. I also live alone and hate confrontation. Covid has meant working from home too, so I'm literally here all the time. I don't want any trouble or animosity.

But this past weekend when she had 3 people arrive at midnight and stayed out in the garden with music playing from inside the house and raised voices and cackling every other word was "babe" or "f", until after 2am, I just couldn't take it anymore. When I called out that people were trying to sleep, one of them told me to f off....

I put a handwritten letter through the door the next day saying that the noise from her house and garden was continuing to disturb me and I suspect several other houses. Specifically on these occasions (listed every date and time from last 4 months to show the clear pattern), that in 11 years no one in the street had made the amount of disturbance she had, and in the last 4 months I've bought industrial earplugs and new headphones just to try and get some peace at weekends. That I can't relax when it sounds like the party is in my house, that it's increasingly stressful not knowing when it will end and I can go to bed, or if it's quiet and I go to sleep will I be woken up in the early hours? This is despite the ear plugs. That I have sought advice and can take this to the council but wanted to approach her again first, and she had promised to keep it down back in April. I'd rather solve it informally. But that she and her friends could go to any number of places to party, but her neighbours have nowhere else they can sleep. Please can this issue be ended now.

I've not had a response and honestly I hate confrontation and don't particularly want one. I just want it to stop.

The neighbours the other side of her (the end of the row) are away every weekend with their caravan (lucky them) and so can't back me up by saying anything.

I feel like I'm alone in a weekly nightmare and I don't understand why she doesn't see that her behaviour is too much. But I'm pretty sure it's because she's so hammered she has no idea what day or time it is, let alone notice that every house in the street is trying to sleep.

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 04/07/2022 12:47

Skedaddle465 · 03/07/2022 11:32

She's definitely fallen off the wagon.

She's back to coming home anywhere between 3am and 8am on Saturday and Sunday, with a random guy, and having the loudest sex imaginable. I never hear the guy during, only her, it's almost funny she's so clearly faking, but I can hear it in my bedroom and my living/dining room. There's nowhere to get away from it.

If the guy doesn't leave, it starts up again mid afternoon when they wake up from their stupor, so I daren't invite anyone round. She also has her windows open so anyone walking by would also get an earful.

Yesterday I went to bed in earplugs and with white noise on in preparation. Woke up at 9am and took them out to hear there was a party in full swing next door with a group of girls trying to sing along to Carrie Underwood 'before he cheats' and a male voice screaming 'shut up, please shut the hell up'. So that was fun....guests left in Ubers around 10.30am and it went quiet. I was hopeful. But the loud sex started around 11am. Again at 2.30pm. Then later the yelling at her dog that had clearly had an accident because she'd ignored it all day....

Then she drove off, came back at 3.30am this morning.....loud sex again at 10am as I was enjoying a coffee at the dining table. What I have done this morning, because I'm very petty and fed up now, is to play Akon's 'I've just had sex' at full volume against the bedroom wall...That seemed to shut her up.

Argh! She's such a cow.

Do you think she knows these men or is she a prostitute?

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 04/07/2022 12:49

I've got no idea what you can do but you have my sympathies!

I had two women (friends) move into our quiet residential street last Christmas and had loud parties, the last one was approx a month ago with loud talking from a man the other end of the garden in a garden seat at 4am! I shut my window (which overlooks that part of the garden) really loudly! Next morning opened my curtains (they have outside sofa there) to see a man with a man-bag look up at my window (thank god I was dressed) at me!

I don't want to move bedrooms (have 2 more) as other side next to couple with crying child (but child is heaven compared to these 2!) and front bedroom faces street and I like where my bedroom is and it's a good size.

Thank god these are renters (couple who own are in Canada for 2 years) but I did whatsapp my neighbours to let them know, in case they'd like to let their letting agent know.

It was party after party with them, they've installed a sauna next door in the house and everything went on late or well into 2-3am time for a good few months. Had those annoying lantern lights strung right outside my bedroom window part of the garden. One time my DM came over for lunch and said she'd spotted the female neighbour not dressed at 4pm on Sunday and taking a Getir delivery of 'snacks'/groceries and DM joked it was to soak up the wine. Grin

I did complain once or twice but it gets really grating having to do this. Whenever I have parties I always let people know. Thank god I've seen the women going out and up the road to various bars/restaurants there recently.

I really, really feel your pain OP and I'd be going down the nasty route I think (shit through letterbox no wouldn't do that!.

I'd say keep a record of all of it, because if you do want to sell, you'll have to disclose this woman, who sounds a total, selfish, entitled PITA. And loads of people seem to be like it these days, totally selfish and want to have fun regardless of anyone else.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 04/07/2022 12:50

Nanny0gg · 04/07/2022 12:47

Do you think she knows these men or is she a prostitute?

She probably definitely knows these men but just likes sex a lot.

Dreamwhisper · 04/07/2022 12:50

I have to say while I agree that people need to be considerate and it's awful when they're not, and of course I also agree that you should have complained about the weekend parties because that's completely antisocial, you are now putting messages through her door about stuff she's doing in the middle of the day?

That's not really appropriate. It might be frustrating for you and you may be on heightened alert because of the previous noise issues, but she is still entitled to live her life. Putting notes through someone's door because they're having sex (or doing anything that is a bit noisy) at 4 in the afternoon is harrassing them.

jeaux90 · 04/07/2022 13:00

Missing the point of the thread I know but I feel so bad for her DD. Chaos is so bad for kids.

1HappyTraveller · 04/07/2022 13:04

@Skedaddle465

“What I have done this morning, because I'm very petty and fed up now, is to play Akon's 'I've just had sex' at full volume against the bedroom wall...That seemed to shut her up.”

Haaaaahahahaha 😂

Howling!

Feel your pain OP. She clearly has issues. That isn’t your problem but her behaviour is making it your problem. Not read through all of the comments but if you can hear that loudly through the walls it’s probably worth recording the various noise at different times of the day on your phone and then submitting recordings to the council as additional evidence. Don’t forget to inform the police each time - they might not do anything but at least you’ll have a log number. Good luck!

CaptainMyCaptain · 04/07/2022 13:05

Confusion101 · 04/07/2022 12:24

The woman is in her late 20s! You need to speak to her face to face directly. All this "tell her parents".... My parents would do some laughing if a person came to tattle on their almost 30 year old daughter. Seriously! She's an adult, you are an adult.

They are also her landlords so I think, in this case, they should know how their daughter is using their property.

Friendofdennis · 04/07/2022 13:09

I feel for you. You must be at your wits end. I came off worse with a neighbour who was having parties late into the night and I finally went over and knocked on her window at 5 am when I couldn’t take any more. I could feel the ground shaking beneath my feet with the drum and base. I was the one who came off worse as they brought racism into it as they were all black and I am white.

1HappyTraveller · 04/07/2022 13:10

@Dreamwhisper

errr no it’s not harassing them!

If the neighbour is having sex THAT loud that it’s causing a nuisance then she’s the one causing the harassment. Regardless of the time of day you don’t get to be a selfish ar$ehole and disturb people in their own homes because you can’t hold your sh!t together.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/01/woman-birmingham-jailed-noisy-sex

wellhelloitsme · 04/07/2022 13:11

Confusion101 · 04/07/2022 12:24

The woman is in her late 20s! You need to speak to her face to face directly. All this "tell her parents".... My parents would do some laughing if a person came to tattle on their almost 30 year old daughter. Seriously! She's an adult, you are an adult.

I think people only suggested that as it sounded like her parents might be the homeowners / landlords?

Dreamwhisper · 04/07/2022 13:31

1HappyTraveller · 04/07/2022 13:10

@Dreamwhisper

errr no it’s not harassing them!

If the neighbour is having sex THAT loud that it’s causing a nuisance then she’s the one causing the harassment. Regardless of the time of day you don’t get to be a selfish ar$ehole and disturb people in their own homes because you can’t hold your sh!t together.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/01/woman-birmingham-jailed-noisy-sex

This article says the event that triggered the woman's arrest happened at 5 in the morning.

AngelinaFibres · 04/07/2022 13:38

Taciturn · 18/08/2021 01:20

Have you thought about taking a recording and sending it to her parents? If they bought the place, do they own or and she is a tenant? Regardless, you can let them know how their investment is going.

I would also suggest regurgitating all the personal gossip you hear back to her and see if she squirms. This is probably no good if you don't care for confrontation, but the message might penetrate.

Her parents probably know exactly how she behaves and didn't want her living anywhere near them. Hence buying her a house 🏠

AlpacaBag · 04/07/2022 13:47

Balgoresboy · 18/08/2021 00:32

'You phone the police.
Every
Single
Time.'

police won't do anything, it's up to the council ime.

Police near me will do something! We have had 2 parties in 4 years and both times a neighbour called the police even though we were quiet from 11pm - they sent out PCSO's both times. I'd ring 101 every time OP - good luck x

Alisondewy · 04/07/2022 14:43

From experience, I had the same issue. A nightmare neighbour moved in 6 months before lockdown. He was noisy from day 1. I did everything you have already done. None of it worked and he became abusive, making my life a nightmare with our family of 5. The police came multiple times. It was making me so unhappy that we moved on advice of the policeman. Best thing I ever did. Sounds ridiculous but I really would have lost my mind otherwise. Good luck x

LakieLady · 04/07/2022 15:14

TerriblyNaice · 03/07/2022 16:00

That poor dog!

I'm concerned about the dog, too. I can't believe she went away for 2 weeks and just had people pop in to feed it. OP, if you can kidnap the dog, it can come and live with me.

If she does it again, I'd report the dog as abandoned.

For the noise, report to the council, with a list of every incident so far, including date, time, nature of noise and duration. Then report every subsequent incident as they happen.

I'd also be minded to get the address of her parents via the land registry and act like you think the neighbour is "just" their tenant. Complain to them as landlords about their noisy tenant and send them all the info you've sent to the council.

She sounds utterly vile.

EasilyDistracted77 · 04/07/2022 19:57

Record the whole evening, music, gossip and all and play it back at full volume early the next day when she's in bed nursing her hangover. Tell her to f off when she asks you to stop. Then sheepishly apologise but do it all again next week anyway.

1HappyTraveller · 04/07/2022 22:36

I was referring to the loud sex being the nuisance rather than the time of day. Should have split the paragraph and posted the link in the middle.

A person can still be a nuisance in the day. It’s not like it’s a one-off. The neighbour is clearly a f*-ing nightmare!

1HappyTraveller · 04/07/2022 22:38

Dreamwhisper · 04/07/2022 13:31

This article says the event that triggered the woman's arrest happened at 5 in the morning.

I was referring to the loud sex being the nuisance rather than the time of day. Should have split the paragraph and posted the link in the middle.

A person can still be a nuisance in the day. It’s not like it’s a one-off. The neighbour is clearly a f*-ing nightmare!

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 05/07/2022 10:52

EasilyDistracted77 · 04/07/2022 19:57

Record the whole evening, music, gossip and all and play it back at full volume early the next day when she's in bed nursing her hangover. Tell her to f off when she asks you to stop. Then sheepishly apologise but do it all again next week anyway.

I'd do something like this now.

I was perfectly pleasant to the neighbours when I saw them (hopefully they'll be gone after the first or second year) but they are not the same at all (not same friendliness etc) as previous neighbour was.

So although this is a bit passive aggressive and the situation re noise/sex etc is louder and more serious (and the woman is more aggressive and rude), I'd probably fight fire with fire and rinse and repeat.

Environmental health/councils can take ages to get involved and that's no use to OP when she's sitting awake at 3am listening to all sorts of rubbish from next door.

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