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At my wit's end with drunk neighbour and her friends

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Skedaddle465 · 18/08/2021 00:04

Surely keeping your neighbours awake until the early hours, or alternatively waking them up at 3am, EVERY WEEKEND is unreasonable?

Background:
I've lived in my terraced house on a small quiet street for 11 years. Never had a problem with neighbours or noise until the last 4 months and I'm at my wit's end. I feel so on edge every weekend.

For a few years the house that shares my living/dining room and bedroom walls was home to a family with 4 kids. Most recently it was a young couple with a dog. Previously I'd hear some normal day to day stuff from that side, sure they heard it from me, but it was nothing annoying or interfered with daily life or sleep. Nothing anyone ever needed to mention. We knew each other to say hello, exchange a Christmas card. That's about it.

The family in the house behind has a big do once a year but that shuts down around midnight. It's not a party area at all. It's mainly older people and a few families.

I say all this to show I know what the noise level between the properties is. I'm not new to it.

Problem:

The young couple next door sold the house earlier this year. A young woman (mid to late twenties) moved in, with her young daughter, during last lockdown. During the week it's fine. But at the weekend the daughter is with the dad and my neighbour has her mates around. From the first weekend she moved in, it's been almost every Saturday night. So over 4 months of either being kept awake until 2/3am, or woken anywhere between 3-5am by her coming home with friends and carrying on the party.

It started during lockdown (which was even more frustrating) and I hoped once places reopened she'd be someone who was out in a bar or club. But I suspect she's the only one of the group with her own place and so they all come here. Sometimes when they're too hammered to go back to their own places. Other times they just stay here for the long haul.

Once the summer arrived they moved to sitting in the garden until 3am or later, with music playing inside the house loud enough for them to hear outside. Which means I can hear it from all directions. The street is dark, every house and garden is dark, because it's night time, and she and her friends are out their with lights on, music playing, wittering away and breaking into song. I've heard other houses slam windows shut. She's oblivious. Because she's off her face.

The more they drink, the louder the get. And they drink A LOT. Mixed with energy drinks. The "babe" the "omg" and the cackling. I can hear whole conversations, the exact songs they're asking Alexa to play so they can sing bad karaoke.

The first time, back in April, I let it go, thinking she was lonely in her new place and also wanted to show it off to her friends. The following week, when they came home and at 4am and sang karaoke until 8am, I put a note through the door. Polite - welcome to the street, hope you're settling in, but you might not realise the walls aren't that thick and you woke me from 4am-8am. Last week you kept me awake until 2am. I could actually hear quite a lot of the conversation and some of it sounded very personal and you might not want neighbours not know that much detail. Thought you should know.

She posted sweet apology note back, said she was really sorry, didn't realise and would keep it down.

And then has carried on exactly as before. Every weekend.

They are so loud that even through the wall I know, for example, that her parents bought the house for her after her latest breakup, of which there have been several (her friend proclaimed her to be amazing and, I quote: "I'm going to use a big word, she's....resilient"). One of her friends hates everyone they work with and is annoyed they didn't get a promotion. Her older sister, ironically, wants to move house because her "neighbours are trash". Someone's boyfriend cheated, but they "don't need that baggage". Literally, I know everything about them it's that loud. All to a soundtrack provided by Alexa, who's called on regularly.

I have tried banging on the wall at 1am. I've tried loudly slamming my windows shut at 2am when they're in the garden. I even resorted to desperately shouting "please, please keep it down" when they woke me at 3.45am coming home shouting "Alexa, play 'happy and healthy" and proceeded to try and learn it by playing it on a loop and shrieking. That was despite me going to bed in earplugs. Nothing worked.

On advice from a friend who's had a similar problem in the past I've kept a log of all the incidents so that I could report it to the council. I also kept a copy of my original note and her reply. But I really don't want to have to go down formal channels. I also live alone and hate confrontation. Covid has meant working from home too, so I'm literally here all the time. I don't want any trouble or animosity.

But this past weekend when she had 3 people arrive at midnight and stayed out in the garden with music playing from inside the house and raised voices and cackling every other word was "babe" or "f", until after 2am, I just couldn't take it anymore. When I called out that people were trying to sleep, one of them told me to f off....

I put a handwritten letter through the door the next day saying that the noise from her house and garden was continuing to disturb me and I suspect several other houses. Specifically on these occasions (listed every date and time from last 4 months to show the clear pattern), that in 11 years no one in the street had made the amount of disturbance she had, and in the last 4 months I've bought industrial earplugs and new headphones just to try and get some peace at weekends. That I can't relax when it sounds like the party is in my house, that it's increasingly stressful not knowing when it will end and I can go to bed, or if it's quiet and I go to sleep will I be woken up in the early hours? This is despite the ear plugs. That I have sought advice and can take this to the council but wanted to approach her again first, and she had promised to keep it down back in April. I'd rather solve it informally. But that she and her friends could go to any number of places to party, but her neighbours have nowhere else they can sleep. Please can this issue be ended now.

I've not had a response and honestly I hate confrontation and don't particularly want one. I just want it to stop.

The neighbours the other side of her (the end of the row) are away every weekend with their caravan (lucky them) and so can't back me up by saying anything.

I feel like I'm alone in a weekly nightmare and I don't understand why she doesn't see that her behaviour is too much. But I'm pretty sure it's because she's so hammered she has no idea what day or time it is, let alone notice that every house in the street is trying to sleep.

OP posts:
vivainsomnia · 19/08/2021 08:20

Step 1: Keep a diary and record every time there is unacceptable noise after 11am. Try to go backwards if you can remember specific days.

Step 2: Record noise levels and write it down. You can do that from your mobile but you might want to get a more sophisticated and reliable instrument.

Step 3: Go to her during the week. Explain that you'd hope after her apology that she would have changed her ways. That the noise levels is completely unacceptable.

Step 4: If it continues, write to her in a letter that as she is taking no notice of your requests, you're going to have to escalate it to the health environment agency. Inform her that you've recorded the level of noise, and that it has breeched what is considered acceptable many times.

Step 5: If she still takes no notice, report her and inform them you have evidence of noise disruption.

Good luck OP. This is a complete nightmare. We had the same issues some years back, but thankfully they were renting, it was the landlord grandson, and he kicked him and his friends out. We were so relieved. I really feel for you.

Skyla2005 · 19/08/2021 08:38

@BrozTito

Pisses me right off i have to live in a slum with other people due to housing costs but nobheads like this just have it fall in front of them and take it completely for granted.
Eh ?
Theeyeballsinthesky · 19/08/2021 08:45

All the things other ppl have said but also talk to your local councillor, they can be very good at kicking the noise abatement ppl up the bum if they don’t do anything

SingingInTheShithouse · 19/08/2021 08:58

police won't do anything, it's up to the council ime

@Balgoresboy, the police CAN help, but it depends on what you are hearing outside, if it's in anyway antisocial, swearing, bigoted etc, their antisocial behaviour team can help. It just depends on how you word your complaint

We've had an ongoing noisy neighbour problem & EHL were worse than useless to begin with, we were advised to ring the police, but emphasise any antisocial behaviour stuff. They were great & have kicked EHL to act too & we currently have a dat machine in place & have recorded loads, which means he's in big trouble Grin

OP your neighbour is taking the pee & knows she is, hence the grovelling empty apology letters to pacify you. She a manipulative cow too by the sounds of it. You need to pull up your big girl pants & face her head on.

As a letter is her M.O. id suggest a recorded delivery letter to her, stating in no uncertain terms that her noise is disturbing you, it is anti social & she needs to stop now or you will go to the authorities

If they are drunk & sweary etc, ring the police & contact your councils environmental health department to raise a formal noise complaint

Good luck

MNmonster · 19/08/2021 09:03

@MrsMoastyToasty

You phone the police. Every Single Time.
Who will do nothing and refer you to your local council who are the correct professional agency to deal with this.
whenwillthemadnessend · 19/08/2021 09:03

I had this in a old flat.

I sold it Only
Loved there 18 months. Mental health was in tatters and now I'm very very choosy about the houses I buy.

NapoleonOzmolysis · 19/08/2021 09:05

Look on the Land Registry to see if the house is in her name or her parents. If it's her parents, track them down and wake them up every time she's partying.

whenwillthemadnessend · 19/08/2021 09:09

Why would the house belong to the parents???

Skedaddle465 · 19/08/2021 09:17

Did that, definitely in her parents name. They live in the next town.

OP posts:
TopBlogger · 19/08/2021 09:25

@whenwillthemadnessend

Why would the house belong to the parents???
Err... because they bought it Hmm
vixeyann · 19/08/2021 09:28

I would write to the parents. I am sure when they come to sell the property in the future they don't wish to have declare a problem with the neighbours.

Get in touch with the council and ask to speak to your local community support officer at the police station. You contact them every time there is an incident. You also copy your local MP in on any correspondence and if you don't get a satisfactory reply ask them to escalate it your behalf.

x

HopeHappy · 19/08/2021 09:33

I recently called the council with a noise complaint. The way our council works is that with your first call, they log it, send you a noise diary to complete and write to the noisy neighbour. In our case that letter (and possibly the 5 or 6 that they received as a result of other neighbours complaining also) did have the desired effect.

What did also help was me absolutely losing the plot with them one day! I cannot stand confrontation either and cringe at the thought of it, but one day (I'm going to blame my PMS), the noise was going on, yet again, on a work night and I stormed round in my pyjamas and banged on the door so loudly they actually looked scared to answer, and I actually bruised my hand! My DP said he's never seen me so angry!

Definitely have a word with other neighbours and convince all of them to call the council too. Once you're on the formal pathway for a noise complaint, hopefully it will resolve itself.

rosesarered321 · 19/08/2021 09:59

Think carefully before you contact the council or the police, if you do you will have to declare it when you sell.
I'd retaliate with very loud music early the next morning all over the house, then I'd go out.

MrsReeves · 19/08/2021 10:02

I would be in my garden, music playing loudly, singing badly till all hours, when she has her daughter there in the week. But then I'm petty Grin

5zeds · 19/08/2021 10:12

What about an old jam jar with a stink bomb (available from Amazon) in it. Put it next to the fence your side when they go out in the garden and stink the fuckers out. In the morning put the lid on and enjoy your garden.

DeflatedGinDrinker · 19/08/2021 10:14

Op report to council and to police every single time. They have a noise app you download. You need to report every time not just jot down a handwritten note.

DeflatedGinDrinker · 19/08/2021 10:18

I'd have a speaker blaring music right next to her wall every night during the week.

DeflatedGinDrinker · 19/08/2021 10:20

@MNmonster My council website states to call the police if the noise is after 11pm as they will only come out before then.

QueenHofScotland · 19/08/2021 10:29

Do you have a community police officer? It might be worthwhile speaking to them rather than calling 101 every time.

In all honesty though I would have called the Police months ago OP. You won’t necessary get an immediate response if they are busy at the time but if you call often enough they will address it with her.

ChainJane · 19/08/2021 10:35

The police are more likely to come if you bend the truth a little - say you've heard women shouting screaming at the property (sort of true by the sound of it) and something about a gun (chances are there's a reference to a gun in some of the music they've played).

Police won't take chances, especially after the Plymouth thing, so they're likely to be disturbed by an armed response team turning up. Do this a few times and hopefully they'll get the message.

Make sure you use a "burner" phone, buy a ten quid PAYG phone with cash so it can't be traced to you, and don't give your real name obviously.

KarmaStar · 19/08/2021 10:39

Hi
I really feel for you.
Ok,you need a plan of action and you have to carry it through.Don't give in if she sends another note of empty promises.
Contact your council environments health team and register a complaint.
Do this today so they can pass on to the night shift.
Also,if the noise starts,go out and demand it's turned off and they shut up.
Once you get the aggressive response,you phone the police and tell them there is likely a breach of the peace,you have been sworn at/threatened by a neighbour.
Be resolved,have a steely determination to see this through.unfortunately many people see nice people as weak people and will play on that.
Put a cloak of protection around yourself and ask the Angels to help.
Stop worrying about confrontation,she's nothing but a little bully who is fuelled with false courage from alcohol and her mates..
Be cool,calm and focused.
Good luck,let us know how it goes this weekend.🌻

RedHelenB · 19/08/2021 10:40

@ChainJane

The police are more likely to come if you bend the truth a little - say you've heard women shouting screaming at the property (sort of true by the sound of it) and something about a gun (chances are there's a reference to a gun in some of the music they've played).

Police won't take chances, especially after the Plymouth thing, so they're likely to be disturbed by an armed response team turning up. Do this a few times and hopefully they'll get the message.

Make sure you use a "burner" phone, buy a ten quid PAYG phone with cash so it can't be traced to you, and don't give your real name obviously.

I hope that isn't a serious suggestion. YABVU if it is.
AdobeWanKenobi · 19/08/2021 11:09

@MrsReeves

I would be in my garden, music playing loudly, singing badly till all hours, when she has her daughter there in the week. But then I'm petty Grin
Excellent suggestion that, especially if the child sleeps in the back and will be disturbed by it. Warn your nice neighbours that you're planning on having a loud mid week garden party. Cruel? Probably. But sometimes you have to treat people how they treat you for them to see the issue.
idontknowwhyibother · 19/08/2021 11:09

Get the hose pipe and point it over the fence. You know you're tempted OP. Grin

Gumboots29 · 19/08/2021 11:13

OMG OP have my old neighbours moved in next door to you? Mine did this every weekend and wouldn’t stop even when I came home from hospital with a brand new baby.

We moved as our neighbours were not the type to be reasoned with.

My sympathies as it’s really awful to live with.

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