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At my wit's end with drunk neighbour and her friends

244 replies

Skedaddle465 · 18/08/2021 00:04

Surely keeping your neighbours awake until the early hours, or alternatively waking them up at 3am, EVERY WEEKEND is unreasonable?

Background:
I've lived in my terraced house on a small quiet street for 11 years. Never had a problem with neighbours or noise until the last 4 months and I'm at my wit's end. I feel so on edge every weekend.

For a few years the house that shares my living/dining room and bedroom walls was home to a family with 4 kids. Most recently it was a young couple with a dog. Previously I'd hear some normal day to day stuff from that side, sure they heard it from me, but it was nothing annoying or interfered with daily life or sleep. Nothing anyone ever needed to mention. We knew each other to say hello, exchange a Christmas card. That's about it.

The family in the house behind has a big do once a year but that shuts down around midnight. It's not a party area at all. It's mainly older people and a few families.

I say all this to show I know what the noise level between the properties is. I'm not new to it.

Problem:

The young couple next door sold the house earlier this year. A young woman (mid to late twenties) moved in, with her young daughter, during last lockdown. During the week it's fine. But at the weekend the daughter is with the dad and my neighbour has her mates around. From the first weekend she moved in, it's been almost every Saturday night. So over 4 months of either being kept awake until 2/3am, or woken anywhere between 3-5am by her coming home with friends and carrying on the party.

It started during lockdown (which was even more frustrating) and I hoped once places reopened she'd be someone who was out in a bar or club. But I suspect she's the only one of the group with her own place and so they all come here. Sometimes when they're too hammered to go back to their own places. Other times they just stay here for the long haul.

Once the summer arrived they moved to sitting in the garden until 3am or later, with music playing inside the house loud enough for them to hear outside. Which means I can hear it from all directions. The street is dark, every house and garden is dark, because it's night time, and she and her friends are out their with lights on, music playing, wittering away and breaking into song. I've heard other houses slam windows shut. She's oblivious. Because she's off her face.

The more they drink, the louder the get. And they drink A LOT. Mixed with energy drinks. The "babe" the "omg" and the cackling. I can hear whole conversations, the exact songs they're asking Alexa to play so they can sing bad karaoke.

The first time, back in April, I let it go, thinking she was lonely in her new place and also wanted to show it off to her friends. The following week, when they came home and at 4am and sang karaoke until 8am, I put a note through the door. Polite - welcome to the street, hope you're settling in, but you might not realise the walls aren't that thick and you woke me from 4am-8am. Last week you kept me awake until 2am. I could actually hear quite a lot of the conversation and some of it sounded very personal and you might not want neighbours not know that much detail. Thought you should know.

She posted sweet apology note back, said she was really sorry, didn't realise and would keep it down.

And then has carried on exactly as before. Every weekend.

They are so loud that even through the wall I know, for example, that her parents bought the house for her after her latest breakup, of which there have been several (her friend proclaimed her to be amazing and, I quote: "I'm going to use a big word, she's....resilient"). One of her friends hates everyone they work with and is annoyed they didn't get a promotion. Her older sister, ironically, wants to move house because her "neighbours are trash". Someone's boyfriend cheated, but they "don't need that baggage". Literally, I know everything about them it's that loud. All to a soundtrack provided by Alexa, who's called on regularly.

I have tried banging on the wall at 1am. I've tried loudly slamming my windows shut at 2am when they're in the garden. I even resorted to desperately shouting "please, please keep it down" when they woke me at 3.45am coming home shouting "Alexa, play 'happy and healthy" and proceeded to try and learn it by playing it on a loop and shrieking. That was despite me going to bed in earplugs. Nothing worked.

On advice from a friend who's had a similar problem in the past I've kept a log of all the incidents so that I could report it to the council. I also kept a copy of my original note and her reply. But I really don't want to have to go down formal channels. I also live alone and hate confrontation. Covid has meant working from home too, so I'm literally here all the time. I don't want any trouble or animosity.

But this past weekend when she had 3 people arrive at midnight and stayed out in the garden with music playing from inside the house and raised voices and cackling every other word was "babe" or "f", until after 2am, I just couldn't take it anymore. When I called out that people were trying to sleep, one of them told me to f off....

I put a handwritten letter through the door the next day saying that the noise from her house and garden was continuing to disturb me and I suspect several other houses. Specifically on these occasions (listed every date and time from last 4 months to show the clear pattern), that in 11 years no one in the street had made the amount of disturbance she had, and in the last 4 months I've bought industrial earplugs and new headphones just to try and get some peace at weekends. That I can't relax when it sounds like the party is in my house, that it's increasingly stressful not knowing when it will end and I can go to bed, or if it's quiet and I go to sleep will I be woken up in the early hours? This is despite the ear plugs. That I have sought advice and can take this to the council but wanted to approach her again first, and she had promised to keep it down back in April. I'd rather solve it informally. But that she and her friends could go to any number of places to party, but her neighbours have nowhere else they can sleep. Please can this issue be ended now.

I've not had a response and honestly I hate confrontation and don't particularly want one. I just want it to stop.

The neighbours the other side of her (the end of the row) are away every weekend with their caravan (lucky them) and so can't back me up by saying anything.

I feel like I'm alone in a weekly nightmare and I don't understand why she doesn't see that her behaviour is too much. But I'm pretty sure it's because she's so hammered she has no idea what day or time it is, let alone notice that every house in the street is trying to sleep.

OP posts:
hartof · 18/08/2021 22:18

If you're not sure of the child is home when these episodes happen you can report on the NSPCC website and they send police out.

Otherwise send your information to the council don't hold back anymore.

purdypuma · 18/08/2021 22:19

Firstly ask your neighbour politely to keep the noise down when it happens but don't get involved in any kind of confrontation.

If there's excess noise past 11pm then the Police will attend if they have a car available & ask them to keep it down due to noise disturbance.

Do this every time, keep a written log of all incidents & get in touch with environmental health at your local council with Police incident number every time you contact them. Be persistent & they'll soon get sick of hearing from you which will jolt them into action.

Your situation is a bit more complicated if she owns the house but she's not above the law.

If her parents have bought the house & are charging her rent then they have a duty of care to ensure that their tenant (daughter) behaves in a manner which does not cause nuisance or distress to surrounding neighbours.

ChippyTea16 · 18/08/2021 22:23

She sounds like a fucking dick so don’t worry about escalating it now, she obviously doesn’t give a shit about how she comes across to you. Report to the noise pollution area of your local council. Keep recording times and dates and they will take action. Good luck OP hope she keeps the noise down this weekend

NotYourCupOfTea · 18/08/2021 22:23

Go to the council
Speak to your local psco if you have one
Get other neighbours to complain too if you aren’t the only one being disturbed

I think it’s madness none of you have taken action sooner tbh

essentialhealing · 18/08/2021 22:24

Op, we have a house three along from us who on occasion do similar but not as often or out as late

They sit on the patio laughing, joking, shouting and playing music from inside the house

In our front bedrooms you can't hear them, only in the back. Could you sleep in the front bedroom when they're outside?

Overdon · 18/08/2021 23:10

I suspect there could be drugs involved here, they are partying hard. Coke in particular turns people into arseholes.

I wouldn’t confront them alone when they are partying, she won’t want to lose face in front of her coven. But I would record everything and report it as anti social behaviour as this seems to gain more traction than noise nuisance.

ThirtyCharacterUsernamesOnly30 · 18/08/2021 23:34

Can you go and make friends with her? So like, pop over there, say 'I hear you're having a party, can I join?' With a bottle of wine in hand. Or maybe, a vodka bottle full of water, and offer to make everyone drinks. Then, when you've been there a few times, and she wouldn't suspect you, start sabotaging stuff... eg, the speakers/sound system.

KilledByWitches · 18/08/2021 23:41

Council noise abatement team. They will ask you to keep a diary in the first instance and they should then give you recording equipment.

They will warn her and if it does continue I believe they have the power to seize the equipment so Alexa could be confiscated. Either way give the council a call and talk it through. You shouldn't have to live like this.

TheTempest · 18/08/2021 23:41

Environmental health noise abatement team. They’ll put in sound monitoring equipment and have an out of hours team who can attend and test sound levels. Good luck OP

Cissyandflora · 18/08/2021 23:48

@ThirtyCharacterUsernamesOnly30

Can you go and make friends with her? So like, pop over there, say 'I hear you're having a party, can I join?' With a bottle of wine in hand. Or maybe, a vodka bottle full of water, and offer to make everyone drinks. Then, when you've been there a few times, and she wouldn't suspect you, start sabotaging stuff... eg, the speakers/sound system.
Ah the long game. I like it.
Boredmotherofone · 18/08/2021 23:49

@BrozTito

Id actually set a hose on the pricks if they told me to fuck off. Gone beyond confrontation. The brat isnt 18 anymore and needs a firm painful lesson
I did exactly this once and was arrested for 'assault' the following day :(
Mycatismadeofstringcheese · 18/08/2021 23:58

Check your council website, ours have an app you can upload recordings to which will trigger an investigation.

StarryStarrySocks · 18/08/2021 23:58

OP you have my sympathies. This would drive me mad. I sincerely hope you do loud hoovering/play hymns on the radio at top volume/have a long phone call with your deaf old auntie first thing in the morning after her shenanigans. Also maybe think about taking up the drums.
In all seriousness, I hope the Council can help you.

Balgoresboy · 19/08/2021 00:03

''If there's excess noise past 11pm then the Police will attend if they have a car available & ask them to keep it down due to noise disturbance.''

I don't why people keep saying this. Having had countless experiences of this in London I have rang the cops countless times and they always say it's a council matter.

ScabbyHorse · 19/08/2021 00:29

Call the noise abatement team and they will go round there if it's after 11pm.

Yaya26 · 19/08/2021 00:49

I also would try the sending a letter to the parent option. Sounds like they were bailing her and hr child out and they might not be delighted that she is holding regular parties and upsetting the neighbours. Hopefully they'd be reasonable people.

We lived in a house next door to a girl like this once it was a nightmare. I absolutely lost it with them one night after trying the nicely approach. Worked out ok for me as she send a bouquet of flowers but I wouldn't recommend as they're prob coked to the gills. I don't know if the Han page would have been permanent as w moved straight after. I'm so delighted that we now live in the country with only animals to annoy us. (They're a lot easier to put up with usually. Id wait to the Monday evening until she is in the horrors and then confront her.

Good luck it really is horrific. Xx

viques · 19/08/2021 01:39

I had neighbours who did a Sunday karaoke every Sunday afternoon. Our local council noise people were wonderful, came round, sat in my sitting room and noted down the songs! Then they wrote to them and said if they continued that the council would remove their “devices” (ooh missus!) apparently they have the powers to do that, I don’t know if this is a local power or national though. Not had a peep out of them since.

JustLyra · 19/08/2021 02:23

@Balgoresboy

''If there's excess noise past 11pm then the Police will attend if they have a car available & ask them to keep it down due to noise disturbance.''

I don't why people keep saying this. Having had countless experiences of this in London I have rang the cops countless times and they always say it's a council matter.

Because not everywhere is the same as London - the police will send a car to noise issues here. It’s not a priority, but they do it when they have someone.

If they can nip the noise in the bud there’s less chance of them ending up dealing with an incident between the neighbours is what they’ve said before.

PwySyddYma · 19/08/2021 02:50

Oh what's that partying till 3am....pitty I've taken up learning the violin at 8am following your little party. In the room adjacent to your bedroom, and I have to mow the lawn at 10am and then I like to do my upbeat tempo garden aroebics class 11-12 with the help of my Alexa. Then after my shower and at 1pm I must practice my Austrian yodelling in the garden with accompanying music to release my vocal chords.

I'd annoy the shit out of hungover her, just the once and then report her to the council.

Hellotoallmyfans · 19/08/2021 02:56

Put a Metallica album on repeat on your Alexa from 7am, place it right next to where her bedroom wall would be and go out all day. Do it again the next day, and the next.

When she comes round begging you to stop tell her you're sure you can come to some arrangement.

You need to play her at her own game. Either that or move.

WhatsthestoryABC · 19/08/2021 06:23

I agree with contacting her parents: make it clear that it’s an issue that’s been happening for a number of months and you’ve tried to resolve it amicably, with no success. Given her behavior hasn’t changed, you’re now having to resort to the legal route and this will have to be declared when they sell in the future & likely impact on the sales price.

Heatherjayne1972 · 19/08/2021 06:45

They must sleep sometimes
Surely your grass needs mowing at 7 am
Or you might really really like some opera of a morning

Sometimes a taste of their medicine is worth a try

AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit · 19/08/2021 07:00

Join up with your equally pissed off neighbours to get this inconsiderate selfish cunt booted out of your life. I absolutely DESPISE fucking chavs like this - snowflakes on here can moan about that word all they want - because bollocks we all know they exist. You have my every sympathy OP you really do x

LakieLady · 19/08/2021 08:04

If there's excess noise past 11pm then the Police will attend if they have a car available & ask them to keep it down due to noise disturbance

I'm amazed that some forces are still doing this. The police here just tell you it's a matter for the council and give you the number for their out-of-hours noise nuisance line. And if you ring it after 1.00am, a recorded message tells you that the service ends at 1.00 am!

They are very good if you report incidents with a log of dates, times etc. They start off sending a warning letter, then a notice of intended prosecution and they have taken a few cases to court. And if the culprits are council tenants, they threaten eviction proceedings, which tends to work.