Can’t shake the feeling that something is weird/wrong?

[Hueylewisandtheviews]

Since the pandemic started really..it’s all seemed strange, some points I’ve convinced myself things are normal, but it’s there deep down bugging me. I just find it all so odd, the pushing of vaccines on young people for incentives, no real discussion being allowed apart from what is presented to us. Is this normal?! Or is it me that’s not 🤷🏻‍♀️Does anyone else feel like this?

[quote ZednotZee]@FullMoonInsomnia

Well I suppose it started with the obfuscation of facts by our social superiors.
We are only ever told, historically that which it is deemed we can handle at any given point in our history.
Ergo, we are not in full possession of the facts regarding covid.

And thw narrative has been utilised to further an agenda which serves the upper echelons of society. It seems to be a power grab. It has enabled the transfer of wealth to the 1%.

We arent questioning the genesis of the virus. We are fighting amongst ourselves.
Left vs right
Vaxxed vs unvaxxed
Wc vs mc
BLM? Black vs white
Woke vs Conservative
Generation vs generation
Belief in the sciences belief in bodily autonomy

Ad infinitum...

Divide and conquer 101.

And further from this there is the whole trans agenda which is being pushed through on the coattails of a disenfranchised and increasingly obeying society.

To me, it has become apparent that the agenda is evil.
That it serves us, as a populace in no tangible way.
That it serves the 1% entirely. And more to the point, who are they in any case?
That we have been entrapped by fear.

And fear is the most divisive and most controlling weapon in the psychological armour. It has been to any logical person wholly misappropriated relative to the actual risk of this virus.

Its strange indeed; I studied philosophy as an undergraduate.
I used to roll my eyes during the lectures of Plato and Descartes, so convinced were these antiquated men that God existed. Apropos of precisely what?!? I used to scoff.

Well, you know now I see that being convinced of the agenda of evil is perhaps the 'easy' way to becoming comfortable with the existence of the opposite.

At the risk of sounding verifiably crazy, which at this point in proceedings admittedly bothers me little; once you see it, you can't unsee it.

I wish I could.[/quote]
It's much easier to believe that there is an evil "Them" in charge of everything wrong and not just humans, being crap to one another, in endless cycles enabled by media consumption.

I work in healthcare.

The way in which we have been psychologically weaponised in to silence via 'clap for carers' etc is criminal.

Perfectly executed but psychologically nefarious.

I also have avoided reading things like this as I am genuinely concerned about some people’s states of mind on this topic. It is really worrying seeing what people have begun to believe and talking as though we are in some kind of weird sci fi film

I had that feeling something was wrong when I went into my bedroom earlier. Turned out the cat had pooed on my gilet.

It's much easier to believe that there is an evil "Them" in charge of everything wrong and not just humans, being crap to one another, in endless cycles enabled by media consumption.

Humans are being crap to each other indeed.
At the behest of whom?
Is this our natural state of being?
Is this who we are at a base level?

Who owns the media?
Who owns the politicians?

Who owns the world?

Its far more palatable, to my mind to believe that this is simply mankind being 'bad' to each other.

We have a fighting fucking chance against mankind at least.

@ZednotZee

Broadly I think there will be a loss of civil liberties, of personal autonomy. I believe there is a depopulation agenda.

I believe that the overarching contemporary conspiracy theory is that the governments of this world are in any way invested in protecting any of us on an individual or even a population level.

I believe that we are no more than collateral damage.

I believe that the greatest trick satan ever pulled was the secular agenda and convincing the populace that he doesn't exist.

I believe that the world, as it stands resolutely belongs to him.

However I understand that my beliefs at this time mark me out as a fringe theory conspracist/religious nutjob.

I very much hope that in time it transpires that I am one.

I understand that it is terrifying to even consider that my beliefs can be founded in anything appropriating reality.

However 'believing in science' is nothing more than a false idol.
Science is not a deity, nor is it a belief system.
I have been acquainting myself with the bible, in particular the book of revelation.

And I am terrified and resigned to the future in equal measure.

Call me fucking crazy, I wish more than anything else that I could concur.

I think you need to get some help, love.

@ZednotZee Your posts are really interesting, but make me have that uncomfortable feeling in the pit of my stomach.
But who is responsible and why? I’m sorry I’m not quite understanding it all

[quote Hueylewisandtheviews]@ZednotZee Your posts are really interesting, but make me have that uncomfortable feeling in the pit of my stomach.
But who is responsible and why? I’m sorry I’m not quite understanding it all[/quote]
I think reading stuff like this isn’t going to make you feel any better or ‘understand’ something that is not there. There isn’t a group of people sitting in a bunker deciding how to kill off world populations. Humans aren’t nice to each other but that isn’t new, it’s just more obvious. In days gone by, the world was far more physically barbaric and cruel, in some places whole villages are burned to the ground and killed through politics of all kinds. It’s now just that us westerners have had to suffer hardships that we want to believe that something sinister is causing it

@Hueylewisandtheviews

I'm sorry its making you feel uncomfortable. Its not my intention.
Nor is it my intention to be interesting.

I know people scoff at adherence to the scriptures but those are what is informing my views.

The very fact that I am denigrated and derided just bolsters my belief that Satan has this world and the hearts and minds of the overaching majority of those who reside within it.

Hes played an absolute blinder.

'Belief in the science'

'Men can be women'

Etc...

Make no mistake, this narrative isn't a one trick pony. Everything is tied unequivocally to the same agenda.

Inversion of the truth, of the divine.

I care not if I appear crazy whilst hoping with every fibre of my being that I am.

Get yourself a bible and aquaint yourself with its contents. There is peace within its pages.

OP what you on about? Did you see something nasty in the woodshed or something??

@ZednotZee Crikey Moses that tinfoil hat must make your head sweat! Were you as dubious about the avian flu pandemic from errrr Asia that never reached the Uk and faded away? This is by chance, of the same route.

Assuming there is some global conspiracy to depopulate or whatever is madness. The only power we have in force is money. If anyone did something nefarious to release COVID it was about money. But you just have to watch the videos about Wuhan in November to see desperate attempts at the cost of civil liberties to contain it.

Politicians and corporations may since have cashed

[quote ZednotZee]@Hueylewisandtheviews

I'm sorry its making you feel uncomfortable. Its not my intention.
Nor is it my intention to be interesting.

I know people scoff at adherence to the scriptures but those are what is informing my views.

The very fact that I am denigrated and derided just bolsters my belief that Satan has this world and the hearts and minds of the overaching majority of those who reside within it.

Hes played an absolute blinder.

'Belief in the science'

'Men can be women'

Etc...

Make no mistake, this narrative isn't a one trick pony. Everything is tied unequivocally to the same agenda.

Inversion of the truth, of the divine.

I care not if I appear crazy whilst hoping with every fibre of my being that I am.

Get yourself a bible and aquaint yourself with its contents. There is peace within its pages.[/quote]
So all this is based on the bible itself?

Which version?

Don't you consider you should stuff how the Bible came to being? It's history, where its stories were taken from, it's origins and where its stories can be traced back to?

By Satan, do you mean lucifier?

Just finished Long Lost Family, heartbreaking to see people who spent their lives in care with no family to speak off. Lost souls, no nurture or belonging.... it's really really heartbreaking. In this episode they find family, it's everything to them but they can't hug because the episodes were filmed during social distancing. What the actual fuck? I do hope they hugged off camera but still..... HOW? How did we allow it to come to this?

The pandemic is real but it would have been dealt with in a much more sensible and pragmatic way I am sure, had this happened 30 years ago.

Just like there's no singular evil "them" in a bunker plotting the demise of humankind, neither is there one power capable of saving it all.

Pretending it's more might feel like it provides some control over the situation but it re-centers the responsibility on a "higher power" and if that higher power fails to come through, then the goalposts just move: not enough people believed in the "right" way for the Big Miracle to happen.

It's just us. We are the ones with the agency. We are the cause and the solution.

[quote ZednotZee]@Hueylewisandtheviews

I'm sorry its making you feel uncomfortable. Its not my intention.
Nor is it my intention to be interesting.

I know people scoff at adherence to the scriptures but those are what is informing my views.

The very fact that I am denigrated and derided just bolsters my belief that Satan has this world and the hearts and minds of the overaching majority of those who reside within it.

Hes played an absolute blinder.

'Belief in the science'

'Men can be women'

Etc...

Make no mistake, this narrative isn't a one trick pony. Everything is tied unequivocally to the same agenda.

Inversion of the truth, of the divine.

I care not if I appear crazy whilst hoping with every fibre of my being that I am.

Get yourself a bible and aquaint yourself with its contents. There is peace within its pages.[/quote]
How do you define Satan? Are you coming at this from a religious viewpoint or from your own observation? You sound a bit like a Jehovah’s Witness!

With the sheer volume of people and companies involved in Covid, if 'something' was amiss, don't you think someone would've spoken out? This is an international issue, not specific to the U.K.

But lots of people are speaking out.

The RC version, although I acknowledge the issues with the papacy.

By Satan, do you mean lucifier?

Well Lucker is largely considered to be synonymous with Satan. However Lucifer is the fallen angel, the morningstar.
Satan is the appropriation of evil via mango the answer is nuanced at best.

To put it very bluntly; those who adhere to Satan very rarely allude to Lucifer as he is synonymous with the state of the fallen angel who is closest to God.

@FullMoonInsomnia

I subscribe to no religion.

I believe in Jesus.

The two are in no way mutually exclusive.

@ZednotZee

The RC version, although I acknowledge the issues with the papacy.

By Satan, do you mean lucifier?

Well Lucker is largely considered to be synonymous with Satan. However Lucifer is the fallen angel, the morningstar.
Satan is the appropriation of evil via mango the answer is nuanced at best.

To put it very bluntly; those who adhere to Satan very rarely allude to Lucifer as he is synonymous with the state of the fallen angel who is closest to God.

I really think you need to actually study the origins of lucifier and Satan.

Try and objectively look at who created 'the devil' and what they appropriated to do it.

@seashells11

With the sheer volume of people and companies involved in Covid, if 'something' was amiss, don't you think someone would've spoken out? This is an international issue, not specific to the U.K.

But lots of people are speaking out.

Who?

I really think you need to actually study the origins of lucifier and Satan.

Well if you know better please feel free to enlighten me.

Otherwise its purely academic.

OFGS

@entropynow Thank you for you contribution, most enlightening.

ZeenotZee The fact that you believe you're the only one who has uncovered this "truth" about Satan and that anyone who tries to reason with you is themselves on "Satan's side" points strongly towards psychosis.

A common psychotic delusion is a strong belief that is not shared by others; it's very common to believe there is a grand conspiracy to harm you during an episode of psychosis.

I hope you can consider that possibility. I would strongly advise you to have a break from reading The Bible or looking at covid discussions on social media for a few weeks and then assess your mindset.

I'm not trying to be patronising at all but it's worth considering other realities to the one you are describing.

@ZednotZee I’m still not really following

I kind of understand people being wary and cautious.
But they want the world to be vaccinated. The people telling us to be vaccinated have been vaccinated themselves, including our own Queen and PM.
What would they be hiding and why? What could they gain from it? Why should anything sinister happen?
I’m inclined to believe the experts and not conspiracy theorists on the internet.