If you voted for BJ, how are you feeling now, when even the man who masterminded his entire campaign is telling you BJ was never fit to be PM?

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I’m interested to hear - if you voted for “Sovereignty,” or to “Take Back Control” or whatever, how does it now feel to discover that even the mastermind of the Brexit campaign had no confidence in the man he persuaded you to believe in and vote for?

Do you feel played? Which side will you be taking now - Team BJ? Or team DC?

@NameyNameyNameChangey

I'd love a PR system- sadly It's not in the governments interests to introduce it while they have a huge majority!

We had a vote on this in 2011, under the coalition government.

The electorate rejected the option, by 67% to 33%.

I believe DCs testimony, but Why have they dragged in someone so widely discredited to dish the dirt against Boris and Mathh H? There must have been loads of civil servants who hold more public trust. (that's a rhetorical question by the way)

Mate, literally nobody voted for a man they needed to be faithful to his wives and to buy his own wallpaper. They don't care, they really, really don't.

Precisely! And DC is a lying, scheming little shit so why is everyone suddenly believing everything he has to say? Ring of truth, my arse! He's out to get revenge, pure and simple. He's as transparent as Prince bloody Harry and moaning Meghan.

It is extraordinary how Brexit Boris lives his life so much like a Continental politician.

*We had a vote on this in 2011, under the coalition government.

The electorate rejected the option, by 67% to 33%*

Yes. I was just turned 18- was the first vote I ever had! It wasn't PR as such, but AV would still be better than what we have now.

@Bearnecessity

There were so many covid deaths in the U.K. because we have the largest obesity crisis in Europe, not because everyone was immaculately healthy and failed by the system...

Quite. There were almost 30m GP appointments in March. Who the hell are all these people, that's almost half the population. There are a hell of a lot sick people out there.

Also, please, please, stop the narrative that UK has the highest death toll in Europe, it doesn't. We did badly in first wave, but the rest of Europe has caught up in the second. I'm not saying we are a shining example, but second wave was far, far, worse in terms of deaths for Western Europe as a whole.

I honestly think those who voted BJ expecting him to be a reliable and trustworthy leader need to have their heads examined. They surely knew what they were voting for and just didn't care, BoJo is renowned for his feckless and indolent attitude to work and commitment. And all because they were told 'the other guy' was worse. There is no way on God's green earth that JC could have done a worse job.

Impossible to tell. Would JC have procured vaccines early doors and told the EU to hop it? Starmer wanted us to be part of EU vax programme.

I actually don’t think we did too bad a job, although should have locked down earlier last spring.

I voted for Boris and would do so again. He did well do deliver Brexit. It was after all what the result of the referendum called for and what Parliament tried to block repeatedly.

If Johnson was aware of the Indian variant as early as the Times has reported and failed to act at the time he is profoundly unfit to lead the country.
I really can't see how anyone deemed him fit in the first place.

@zafferana

I voted Con because the alternative was Jeremy 'Commie' Corbyn and or Jo 'School Marm' Swinson, both with their woke pro-eradication of women agendas. I'm happy with my choice, thanks. BJ and the Cons aren't ideal, I agree, but they were the best of a bad bunch.

I agree. BJ seemed the best of a bad lot at the last election and he still does now, to be honest.

@Temp023

Well, the problem here is; f Cummings as much as told me that the sky was blue I’d be having my eyes tested!

He has all the credibility of my neighbours three year old, who claims that our cat drew on their front door in crayon!

He can recommend a very good optician in Barnard Castle apparently, just mention his name!

Some years ago, there was a comedy programme called "Yes, Prime Minister" which poked fun at the goings on in Downing Street. You can still watch it on tv. Cummings' description of his times there is uncomfortably close to satire. Except this time it most certainly is not funny. Boris is Prime Minister so the buck does stop with him, and his handling of the pandemic has not covered him in glory. But in mitigation, very few countries have handled it well. Look at France, Italy, Canada etc. And those who appeared to be getting it right, like Thailand, Vietnam and Taiwan are currently struggling with rising infections and deaths. When will NZ ever be "open" again? And what will the economic fall-out etc. be?
Would Labour have done any better? Well, they'd have had lower figures if we'd been relying on Diane Abbott to count them.
As for Cummings lack of faith in Boris, well many of us have worked for useless bosses, haven't we? Not that I'd trust him as far as I could throw him.

Cummings is a good story teller

His shopping trolley line was as good as the rake back control one

But beyond that his view doesn’t mean much to me

Not that I voted for Brexit but the line and comms were effective

"Plus those remoaners are still going on about a result that should have been enacted 5 years ago and left then."

Yes ,Brexit going so well isn't it? Especially for the fishermen, farmers, small businesses who export to Europe etc.

@StapMe

You’ve misunderstood Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister if you think the buck stops with the PM

I think the issue is that we didn't and still don't seem to have any good potential PMs to choose from, and the main two political parties seem to have the same policies as each other. I can't see the benefit in having a two party system is they are both pretty much the same.

If Boris is toppled as he deserves to be, who do we have instead? Michael Gove? He seems even worse if that is possible.

At the last election, it was a choice of bad or worse. Most people knew this. I don’t think anyone thought Boris was honest or moral did they? They just thought he was a bit more sane than Jeremy Corbyn and didn’t have allegations of hobnobbing with terrorists or hating Jewish people hanging over him. Nobody was really holding Boris up as a saint, so therefore I don’t think they’ll be concerned about Cummings. Cummings has no credibility anyway, having broken lockdown to test his sight at Barnard Castle or whatever shite went on. Turning up in the Rose Garden to excuse his wrongdoing with a load of bollocks?

I didn’t vote Tory anyway

As a Lockdown sceptic, I kinda supported Cummings in his trip to a)Durham, (apparently within the rules, but people confused over rules and guidance and b) his trip to Barnard Castle (suspect and would have been given a warning if stopped by police).
I thought 'yay' he knows the rules are OTT etc etc etc (forgive me if you disagree).
However, now i realise he is a Lockdown fanatic and would have locked down earlier, stricter, longer, etc, so now realise he is actually a hypocrite ! Lock down only for the plebs like me, and not for 'important' people like him!!!!
Meanwhile Boris Johnson IS apparently a Lockdown sceptic and has gone UP in my opinion from -10 to -9, which does not say much.
He is weak (browbeaten by Sage - who really seem to run the Gov). So is Rishi Sunak, (weak), who can see the economic damage. (I won't mention the educational and mental health damage)
The real snake is Michael Gove, lining up to be next PM, when BoJo eventually gets the chop (another lockdown fanatic).
But Labour are no longer any opposition either.
I am unable to vote Lib/Lab/Con for the foreseeable future.

People were stupid enough to fall for it. He Got Brexit Done. No one gives a shit that its to the detriment of the UK. He's since directly killed a load of pensioners (& others) by his inaction weakness and vacillation.

If Labour had fielded a halfway decent candidate we would have a hung parliament and it would have been a mess. I'd have preferred that personally than 5 more years of Tory bollocksing up the country.

@TriggersBroom

Are you happy with a PM and government that caused us to have the highest covid death toll in Europe?

Highest COVID death toll in Europe after Hungary, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Czechia, Gibraltar, San Marino, North Macedonia, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Slovakia, Belgium, Slovenia, Italy, Croatia and Poland, you mean?

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/