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If you voted for BJ, how are you feeling now, when even the man who masterminded his entire campaign is telling you BJ was never fit to be PM?

219 replies

mintice · 30/05/2021 13:13

I’m interested to hear - if you voted for “Sovereignty,” or to “Take Back Control” or whatever, how does it now feel to discover that even the mastermind of the Brexit campaign had no confidence in the man he persuaded you to believe in and vote for?

Do you feel played? Which side will you be taking now - Team BJ? Or team DC?

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NotDavidTennant · 30/05/2021 14:47

Not another one of these threads that's dressed up as for asking for opinions but is really just an excuse for a rant.

I suppose it's a small mercy that it's moved on from "Brexit voters, happy now?" to "Boris voters, happy now?". That's progress of a kind.

bishbashbosh99 · 30/05/2021 14:48

Lol. Yeah let's believe DC 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

calamityjam · 30/05/2021 14:50

Darling of the left!! Fuck no no no. We socialists just love the in fighting

TheLeadbetterLife · 30/05/2021 14:52

Corbyn was an absolute gift to the Tories for five years, it's true, but he's not there anymore and the polls tell us that a lot of people still like Johnson. So yeah, I'm quite happy to assume people either love being lied to (as long as the liar has funny hair) or are too stupid to see it.

Some people on this thread seem to want to believe that the Tory landslide was as a result of people holding their noses. That everyone knows Johnson is a wrong 'un but they didn't see an alternative. The uncomfortable truth is that a lot of the electorate just really likes him and will give him the benefit of any doubt, even when the sordid reality is absolutely plain for all to see.

For example - it's not normal for PMs / party leaders to get involved in by election campaigns, as they can be a liability. Johnson was sent to Hartlepool several times, because people love him.

newnortherner111 · 30/05/2021 14:53

I expect many people who voted for the worst Prime Minister in history did so because the alternative they felt would have been the worst Prime Minister in history, Jeremy Corbyn.

sHREDDIES19 · 30/05/2021 14:54

It really isn’t as simplistic as that. As pp has mentioned, there was and remains no credible opposition. I also believe that people’s motivation to vote for Conservatives is nuanced. Not everyone loves Boris but are firmly to the right of centre in their political leanings. Some people have been left disappointed in labour and so switched. Others may think he’s great, a real character! I have always voted Tory and let me tell you I am a totally functional, middle aged, well read, sensible person with working class roots. Political inclinations are very complex and personal so I truly dislike such threads as find them rather divisive.

BorisKilledMyHusband · 30/05/2021 14:55

TriggersBroom here. Just got inspired to name change.

BorisKilledMyHusband · 30/05/2021 15:00

Although if anyone feels inclined to shorten my user name, it’s BorisKilled not Boris please.

newnortherner111 · 30/05/2021 15:08

@sHREDDIES19 judging by Keir Starmer, I would just say no opposition at all.

DesdemonaDryEyes · 30/05/2021 16:14

I’m sorry about your husband but how did Boris kill him?

Hazelnutlatteplease · 30/05/2021 16:46

We socialists just love the in fighting

It's a good distraction from the in fighting in labour

traumatisednoodle · 30/05/2021 17:11

I don't think Dominic Cumming is lying because he is stating the bleeding obvious to anyone with half a brain, who has even vaguely followed the news over the past 18 months.

Keepithidden · 30/05/2021 17:19

But, but, but Labour, Corbyn, socialist, communist eastern bloc, IRA, economy destroyed, anti-Semitism etc...

It was all so predictable!

Britain votes by media, not by policy it appears.

MrsTophamHat · 30/05/2021 17:31

Ah the proven tactic of condescendingly telling people how stupid and wrong they were to vote Brexit/ Tory. A sure fire way to win hearts and minds.

I'm neither a Tory voter nor a Brexiteer but my goodness, I can see why people despise the left and refuse to even consider voting Labour.

KeflavikAirport · 30/05/2021 17:34

It takes 25,000 votes for an SNP MP, 800,000 votes for a Green MP. PR can’t come fast enough.

HidingFromTheChildren · 30/05/2021 17:42

Cummings is just experiencing sour grapes. It is infinitely better to have Boris than Corbyn & his talentless lot which was the option in the last GE. The tories have about 20 credible politicians & labour have none.

ilovesooty · 30/05/2021 17:42

@Whoarethewho

Fine because the choice of Jeremy Corbyn and the woke wing of the labour party was worse
In your opinion.

I can't take anyone seriously who still thinks remoaners is edgy and clever.

TheLeadbetterLife · 30/05/2021 17:44

I really don't give a shit MrsTophamHat. I don't live in the UK, I'm not a Labour member (anymore), it's not my job to win any hearts and minds.

At this point I'm an indifferent to it, along with most of the rest of the EU, which looks at the UK with a mixture of pity and bemusement. If you can't stomach the observations of outsiders, that's really none of my concern.

It's a proven and obvious fact that Johnson is a serial liar. He's up to his eyeballs in corruption. These aren't state secrets. I couldn't care less if calling people who vote for him stupid offends anyone.

People will get what they voted for, and they'll get it good and hard.

luckylavender · 30/05/2021 17:44

@JudgeJ - Some spin you're giving there. Cummings is not the darling of the left. It's perfectly possible to think his account is worthy of investigation and still not like him.

luckylavender · 30/05/2021 17:56

@Whoarethewho - Plus those remoaners are still going on about a result that should have been enacted 5 years ago and left then. If we had just left Boris would have no ammunition to continue to win landslides. It is pleasing to see as crap as a bj prime minister is the public still don't trust the arch remainer kier starmer (must take a knee) more.

So much here to unpick. Pathetic that you're still calling us 'remoaners', like a playground. I think you're saying we should have left the EU straight after the vote (even though there was no plan) & because we didn't we've got Johnson - or something. And you think Keir (spelling) Starmer is less trustworthy than Johnson because he was a Remainer and because he takes the knee. Did I get it all or did I miss something deeper?

luckylavender · 30/05/2021 17:59

@Crankley - are you still happy with Brexit? The NI protocol? Fishing? Where's the 350 million for the NHS? Not really interested what you think of Labour.

Keepithidden · 30/05/2021 18:23

"Ah the proven tactic of condescendingly telling people how stupid and wrong they were to vote Brexit/ Tory"

This keeps being said by folks, I'm not really sure there is much truth in it. It was always the case that opposite parties try to insult each other and persuade the electorate they were correct. It's all bollocks really and the nation seems to get the result it deserves. Such is life.

rwalker · 30/05/2021 18:26

I find it hilarious that everyone said he was a liar and can't be trusted to tell the truth.
Now he's jumped ship his word is gospel and beyond reproach .

BorisKilledMyHusband · 30/05/2021 18:28

@DesdemonaDryEyes

I’m sorry about your husband but how did Boris kill him?
I explained upthread. Failure to lock down in the autumn. My DH caught covid in hospital.
BorisKilledMyHusband · 30/05/2021 18:33

@rwalker

I find it hilarious that everyone said he was a liar and can't be trusted to tell the truth. Now he's jumped ship his word is gospel and beyond reproach .
No I still don’t trust him, but he is confirming what we had heard already - missing cobra meetings, herd immunity strategy, repeated failure to listen to scientific advice to lock down in time, care homes fiasco, PPE failure, test and trace failure, borders wide open.