If you voted for BJ, how are you feeling now, when even the man who masterminded his entire campaign is telling you BJ was never fit to be PM?

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I’m interested to hear - if you voted for “Sovereignty,” or to “Take Back Control” or whatever, how does it now feel to discover that even the mastermind of the Brexit campaign had no confidence in the man he persuaded you to believe in and vote for?

Do you feel played? Which side will you be taking now - Team BJ? Or team DC?

And refusing to meet bereaved families. Inquiry too late.

Oh, another 'why didn't you thick, ignorant bigots vote for a left wing party' thread. Honestly.

Look, I didn't vote Conservative at the last election. But let's face it, the alternatives were Jo 'I don't know what a woman is' Swinson and Jeremy 'Hamas is so misunderstood' Corbyn.

People know what Boris is like. They looked at the alternatives and still picked the Tories.

Labour also had no coherent policy on Brexit and the Lib Dems were widely viewed to be overturning democracy.

As long as the Left believe that Boris voters were duped or brainwashed, Labour will stay out of power.

@TheLeadbetterLife

Anyone who can't see right through Boris Johnson deserves what they get by voting for him as far as I'm concerned. Apparently that means most of the UK (well, England anyway), so I'm very glad I don't live there anymore.

Cummings is a snake in the grass too. They can all enjoy the fallout they've created from their little Brexit project.

Johnson is the most obvious and blatant liar UK politics has ever seen. Evidently a lot of people are either too stupid to see it, or simply don't care.

Or don't have a credible alternative to vote for.

“ People know what Boris is like. They looked at the alternatives and still picked the Tories.”

But if you did vote for Johnson, it’s ok to say actually we were sold a pup and he’s done a shit job.

Or don't have a credible alternative to vote for.

You would expect turnout to be low if this was the reason. It wasn't.

Why do some people struggle so much with the idea that lots and lots of people like Boris Johnson and voted for him?

@Chemenger

It’s fine to want to vote Tory, absolutely that is your decision to make. However, as Tory voters are you happy with the quality of leadership of your chosen party.?

We're you happy with the opposition from whatever party you voted for? Because it is their fault this government is in power.

@AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair

The electorate votes for their own local MP, obviously BJ has constituents but I'm sure I'm not unique in deciding who to vote for based on my judgement of the qualities for my own constituents regardless of the leader of their party

Neither BJ or DC had any influence on how I voted and neither did JC or any labour party advisors

It wasn't an easy choice for me and I considered it in the round. I hope that's what others do too.

This.

It fucks me off utterly when people are so stupid that they make statements like if you voted for Boris.

Unless you live in Uxbridge and South Ruislip - which I don't - then you didn't vote for Boris.

Also, including the lots of people believed the Leave campaign. You do realise that the Brexit vote and the General Election were separate issues.

I know people who vote Labour who also voted Leave. Similarly I know Tory voters who voted Remain.

It's not a simple black and white thing. I cannot imagine why you feel people should be "Team BJ" or "DC".

The pair of them are arrogant, thick wankers in my book.

I’m not sure Boris can be held personally responsible for every Covid cock up.

So many factors to be taken into consideration. Lives lost. Lives saved.

Let’s have an enquiry. A really big long one. Like Hillsborough.

I have no doubt that any enquiry will be a good, long one. It’s the British way - take 30 years to investigate so that no-one cares about the outcome and half the perpetrators are dead.

It’s what keeps the system in place.

Do other countries do enquiries like us?

@TheLeadbetterLife

Or don't have a credible alternative to vote for.

You would expect turnout to be low if this was the reason. It wasn't.

Why do some people struggle so much with the idea that lots and lots of people like Boris Johnson and voted for him?

Because they don't like him but he was literally the only option. I say this as someone who voted for him and would do so again. I would have voted for almost anyone over Corbyn. And no turnout wouldn't have been low due to not liking the candidates. Turnout in the USA was huge for Trump v Biden and alot of the population don't like either of them.

Nothing Cummings may have said- and I didn't listen to all seven hours- makes the slightest difference to me, or would make me vote any differently.

I thought Corbyn was unfit to be anything but an unemployed 1970s relic, and still do.

I voted for Brexit. And I voted for our local Conservative MP.

I have never voted for Boris Johnson.

What an odd thread, surely op you can grasp that Dominic Cummings didn’t feel this way about Boris till Boris fired his arse?

The “revelations” aren’t going to make an ounce of difference to anything. If someone likes Boris, their confirmation bias will just tell them Cummings is a disgruntled former aide with an axe to grind, it’s all lies, or exaggerated. If you don’t like Boris, it just confirms what you thought anyway.

Bit rich of DC to whinge about the toxic culture he helped create. He needs to bugger off somewhere and shut up.

Perfectly said.

@CrownKettle

The “revelations” aren’t going to make an ounce of difference to anything. If someone likes Boris, their confirmation bias will just tell them Cummings is a disgruntled former aide with an axe to grind, it’s all lies, or exaggerated. If you don’t like Boris, it just confirms what you thought anyway.

Equally, those who were screaming last year that Cummings was a lying lier, are now hanging on his every word

DC reminds me of the old Human League "Don't you want me baby" song.

Its pretty clear that whilst you can question DC's motives, there is a more than a grain of truth in what he is saying.

This. I listened to most of the 7 hours. There's a sackful of truthful grains on this occasion.

Like @MadMadMadamMim I did not vote for Boris because I do not live in his constituency.

I did have a vote for the Conservative Party Leader and I did not vote for Boris, I voted for Jeremy Hunt.

Whilst I spend much time in France and have a second home there, I voted for Brexit because the original confederation of European States/Countries turned into a federal Europe and I am fundamentally opposed to that. Notwithstanding the fact that I do not believe the EU will exist in 10 years in any event and I believed the UK would be better leaving now and forging it's own future rather than part of a wider breakdown later.

the only people that had the opportunity to "vote for BJ" are the ones registered to do so in his constituency.

@sst1234

OP, it’s clear your post is deigned to a condescending attempt to discredit a large portion of the electorate or at least call them stupid for voting Brexit. But actually, there was a great many of the 13 million people who voted Tory who didn’t agree with Brexit or much care for Boris. They were actually concerned about putting a raving loony from 1970s student union in charge with a Marxist chancellor in charge of the treasury and a cabinet where to make it a woman your only claim to fame is being a teenage mother. So there.

Exactly! I voted Remain and don't think BJ is up to much as a PM or as a person, but given the choice between him and Corbyn I'd vote for BJ every time.

@JayAlfredPrufrock there has still been no justice for Hillsborough except for not blaming those who died. After over 30 years.

Mr Johnson should be held to account as the head of government, for the many deaths that prompt ending of large events in March and the following of SAGE advice in late September would have stopped. Hence my belief he should face corporate manslaughter and health and safety charges now, not waiting for a long expensive inquiry.

@EdgeOfACoin

Oh, another 'why didn't you thick, ignorant bigots vote for a left wing party' thread. Honestly.

Look, I didn't vote Conservative at the last election. But let's face it, the alternatives were Jo 'I don't know what a woman is' Swinson and Jeremy 'Hamas is so misunderstood' Corbyn.

People know what Boris is like. They looked at the alternatives and still picked the Tories.

Labour also had no coherent policy on Brexit and the Lib Dems were widely viewed to be overturning democracy.

As long as the Left believe that Boris voters were duped or brainwashed, Labour will stay out of power.

This, times a million. Extra points in Scotland.

I don't vote Tory. But I can understand the whole red wall thing when voters are accused of stupidity and when every stupid, one sided headline is met with 'NOW do you see what you voted for?'.

Mate, literally nobody voted for a man they needed to be faithful to his wives and to buy his own wallpaper. They don't care, they really, really don't.

People look at their own lives, their own community, and act accordingly. It's only democracy if people can vote for whomever they please without hatred or judgement.

There were so many covid deaths in the U.K. because we have the largest obesity crisis in Europe, not because everyone was immaculately healthy and failed by the system...