If you voted for BJ, how are you feeling now, when even the man who masterminded his entire campaign is telling you BJ was never fit to be PM?

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I’m interested to hear - if you voted for “Sovereignty,” or to “Take Back Control” or whatever, how does it now feel to discover that even the mastermind of the Brexit campaign had no confidence in the man he persuaded you to believe in and vote for?

Do you feel played? Which side will you be taking now - Team BJ? Or team DC?

@AlternativePerspective

At the end of the day, people can talk all they want on here about how evil the Tory party is and how Boris should resign etc etc. But they won by a landslide. I didn’t vote Tory either, but the general talk on here doesn’t fit with the opinion of society as a whole.

As for Cummings, the same people who were calling for him to be fired over Barnard castle etc and saying what an appalling person he was, how Boris did what he did because of Cummings’ influence are suddenly upholding him as a credible witness? Come on.

They had 44% of the vote. Not even a majority. We’ve been fucked over by them.

It's not like he's saying anything most of us don't/didn't already know. Yes he's a lying snake but happens to be right on this particular subject

The only person I believe less on this planet than BJ is Dominic Cummings. You think the lowest thing is a snakes bollocks, then Cummings starts to talk

Plus those remoaners are still going on about a result that should have been enacted 5 years ago and left then. If we had just left Boris would have no ammunition to continue to win landslides. It is pleasing to see as crap as a bj prime minister is the public still don't trust the arch remainer kier starmer (must take a knee) more.

PR is all very well, but we don't have enough parties in this country to go down that route yet. It would take a huge change of the political landscape to even consider that option. Currently there is not even a second option I would be prepared to vote for.....

@AlternativePerspective

Err you do know that more people voted against right wing parties than did so in 2019 ?

Approx 56/44, hardly "society as a whole" is it?

The tory share of the vote was just 6% more than they got in 2010, when there was a coalition.

Of course, Cummings is a revenge-driven weasel.

How about we pushed for a #CovidInquiryNow instead of waiting for one which won’t start until next year and won’t report until after the next election. In the meantime we are not learning lessons (flights from India anyone) and risking a third wave.

Johnson’s refusal to meet with bereaved families in the meantime is an insult.

In the absence of an enquiry, Cummings is all we have to go on.

@Whoarethewho

Plus those remoaners are still going on about a result that should have been enacted 5 years ago and left then. If we had just left Boris would have no ammunition to continue to win landslides. It is pleasing to see as crap as a bj prime minister is the public still don't trust the arch remainer kier starmer (must take a knee) more.

It's pleasing to you that the Great British Public is so easily duped? Okay.

Brexit is just getting started, so you've plenty more to enjoy over the coming years.

I'm not a "remoaner" by the way - as a resident of an EU country, I'm rather glad that the UK is no longer dicking about in Brussels.

I voted Tory. It’s more than just the person, it’s the stance the party takes. Didn’t want Labour back in after they introduced tax credits so voted Tory.

@Whoarethewho

Plus those remoaners are still going on about a result that should have been enacted 5 years ago and left then. If we had just left Boris would have no ammunition to continue to win landslides. It is pleasing to see as crap as a bj prime minister is the public still don't trust the arch remainer kier starmer (must take a knee) more.

You mean that advisory referendum where Cummings and Johnson lied to the electorate? Still waiting for that £350m a week for the NHS.

@Whoarethewho

Plus those remoaners are still going on about a result that should have been enacted 5 years ago and left then. If we had just left Boris would have no ammunition to continue to win landslides. It is pleasing to see as crap as a bj prime minister is the public still don't trust the arch remainer kier starmer (must take a knee) more.

The vote was enacted wtf are you on about?

Do you not know art50 was passed within weeks?

The Leave govt choose to have a GE which delayed everything, slashed a tory majority and lead to 3 years of argument.

Sorry but it was you brexhiters that caused the delays but like the fuck up that is brexit, you people seem incapable of owning your own shit.

I think some people are missing the point. People are not telling the truth 100% of the time or lying 100% of the time most people are somewhere along that spectrum. The public lambasted DC for the Barnard castle fiasco ( rightly so in my opinion) but most of knew he was lying to cover himself but the Tory party back him through out and told us he wasn’t a liar instead he was just a father trying to take care of his family. Now DC has come out with these new statements, the Tory MPs are now implying that he is in-fact a liar who can’t be trusted. But his account seems to match what most of us saw and experienced (e.g herd immunity being discussed as a strategy on tv, this imaginary ring around care homes, which to this day no one can find!). This doesn’t stop the Tory party from gaslighting the public by saying that what we heard them say is not what they said, the ring around care homes was in place and they didn’t give costly PPE contracts to inexperienced people who were in fact their friends!

TheLeadbetterLife unfortunately Brexit has taken away my option to move to the EU in the future. Pretty ironic when Brexiters tell me “if you love the Eu so much, why don’t you just bugger off and live there”.

I know, and I sympathise - Brexit was one of the major reasons I left. Another four years and I can apply for citizenship here, and get back my EU citizenship. You know, the one I was born with that was taken from me against my will after a dodgy referendum.

@AlternativePerspective

At the end of the day, people can talk all they want on here about how evil the Tory party is and how Boris should resign etc etc. But they won by a landslide. I didn’t vote Tory either, but the general talk on here doesn’t fit with the opinion of society as a whole.

As for Cummings, the same people who were calling for him to be fired over Barnard castle etc and saying what an appalling person he was, how Boris did what he did because of Cummings’ influence are suddenly upholding him as a credible witness? Come on.

But they didn't win by a landslide. More people voted for other parties. The way our system works mean a party can get a massive majority despite not getting a massive majority of the votes. For instance, the SNP got around 4% of ALL votes in the election but got 48 seats. LibDem got 11.6 and yet only got 11 seats. DUP had 0.8% of votes in NI and got 8 seats, despite less than 1% of the population voting for them. PR would probably still mean a Tory majority. But it would mean that society as a whole is represented, reflect public opinion of policies and make their voices heard.

Cummings is a twat.

Happy I voted to Leave
Happy I voted Conservative
Happy May resigned; as a Remainer she would have done a shit job.
Happy how Boris Johnson and Lord Frost negotiated our withdrawal.
Don't give a fuck about Cummings.
Bored senseless with Labour supporters constantly bashing Boris Johnson and Tories on here but realise they must feel completely impotent after watching their party decimated at the last election which was entirely it's own fault.

@Crankley

Happy I voted to Leave Happy I voted Conservative Happy May resigned; as a Remainer she would have done a shit job. Happy how Boris Johnson and Lord Frost negotiated our withdrawal. Don't give a fuck about Cummings. Bored senseless with Labour supporters constantly bashing Boris Johnson and Tories on here but realise they must feel completely impotent after watching their party decimated at the last election which was entirely it's own fault.

Are you happy with a PM and government that caused us to have the highest covid death toll in Europe?

@Lightswitchesoffatnight

Cummings is a twat.

I think that’s the one thing we are all agreed on.

To be clear, I did not vote Labour in 2016 or since. I have voted Conservative in the past, but could not vote for any Leave administration (BJ or TM). I voted LD (it made at least some sense where I live as we are one if the few LD boroughs in London). Obviously, no administration is without issues and I would never argue otherwise.

Of course DC is as much of a liar as the rest of them. This goes without saying. But for him to now sit there and, with no trace if irony, tell all the people who were convinced by HIS campaign that they were essentially hoodwinked into voting for an incompetent liar? This is something else.

OP, it’s clear your post is deigned to a condescending attempt to discredit a large portion of the electorate or at least call them stupid for voting Brexit. But actually, there was a great many of the 13 million people who voted Tory who didn’t agree with Brexit or much care for Boris. They were actually concerned about putting a raving loony from 1970s student union in charge with a Marxist chancellor in charge of the treasury and a cabinet where to make it a woman your only claim to fame is being a teenage mother. So there.

Er, not voting Conservative does not mean you HAVE to vote Labour, you know? It is perfectly possible to vote for neither

@Bythemillpond

Who else was there to vote for?

I voted for Corbyn, I liked a lot of the policies, not all.

@TheLeadbetterLife

There is no way the majority votes based on their local candidate, or out of habit. If that were the case it would scarcely matter who the leaders were and the Red Wall would not have crumbled.

Most Labour candidates reported that they were hearing on the doorstep that Corbyn was the problem. Second to that, it was Brexit.

Brexit has utterly fucked the UK - politically as well as economically. The whole thing was only ever internal Tory politics and Oxford Union-style power games getting out of hand. There's no putting the genie back into the bottle now.

I don't disagree with you. Until about 4 years ago if have voted Labour, was party member and active locally. But not any more.

So I had to choose between the usual Tory Twat, invisible Labour bloke and 2 green and ecology based candidates whose policies/promises don't actually match the geography of the area, let alone the local needs.

Not all that inspiring and next time I think I'll spoil my ballot with a sarcastic haiku 😊