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Admitted to hospital for covid but refused the vaccine

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MakeMineALarge1 · 18/05/2021 17:22

So it has just been on my local news that there are 19 people in hospitlal with covid and all of them had not taken up their offer of a vaccine.

This makes me angry, you refuse the vaccine but you'll accept hospital care, why?

OP posts:
Susie477 · 18/05/2021 20:08

@Tambora

I live close to Bedford (not that close, thankfully), and I am gobsmacked at the lack of uptake of the vaccine in the town, as reported today in the news. The percentage is considerably lower than many other areas, and they are now paying the price.
It’s a while since I’ve been to Bedford, but from what I remember of the place, I’m not at all surprised by the vaccine uptake stats.
OhWhyNot · 18/05/2021 20:09

Tana433 I agree

Once again the government not acting fast enough to shut borders you would have thought they learnt from last year

Grapewrath · 18/05/2021 20:11

What a ridiculous post
Of course they are entitled to NHS treatment regardless of their view on vaccination. They will be paying their NI after all.

wdmtthgcock · 18/05/2021 20:14

What were the circumstances of them not taking up the offer a vaccine?
I am in another country so don't know how people are offered a vaccine in the UK.
Were they contacted by a GP or the NHS and offered an appointment which they did not go to? Why did they not go? Were they unable to take time off work? Were they unable to get transport?
Were there language issues meaning they did not understand what they needed to do?

Or is it the case that they are in one of the groups which have already been vaccinated but they did not receive an invite for whatever reason. No mobile phone for example. No fixed abode etc.

It's very easy for a government to make manipulative statements blaming those hospitalized with COVID when it might not have been a case of "refusing" the vaccine.

Very easy to judge and call people stupid without knowing the circumstances of what happened.

UpSlyDown · 18/05/2021 20:15

I don’t begrudge them getting hospital treatment but if the rest of us get locked to down to protect those who refuse vaccination for no good reason there will be a massive backlash.

BluebellsGreenbells · 18/05/2021 20:21

but if the rest of us get locked to down to protect those who refuse vaccination for no good reason there will be a massive backlash

This is very likely. I won’t do it again and my children won’t be either.

These people know the risks. Their choice.

Paintedmaypole · 18/05/2021 20:21

Are you absolutely sure that all these 19 people had been offered the vaccine and refused? Under 40s are only just being offered the opportunity to book an appointment this week where I live.

UpSlyDown · 18/05/2021 20:24

@BluebellsGreenbells

but if the rest of us get locked to down to protect those who refuse vaccination for no good reason there will be a massive backlash

This is very likely. I won’t do it again and my children won’t be either.

These people know the risks. Their choice.

That’s how I feel. I appreciate your right to risk assess and make a choice and support that but when it starts to affect peoples businesses and children’s ability to to to school it becomes a public health issue again. The threats of ‘there may be more local lockdowns needed’ sounds like other locals who have been vaccinated may be penalised because of the actions of the unvaccinated.
Paintedmaypole · 18/05/2021 20:25

Also there are many other reasons they may not have attended appointments as wdmtthgcock says. I have no time for antivaxers but I wouldn't deny anyone treatment.

MyDcAreMarvel · 18/05/2021 20:26

CANT have it due to low IQ/learning difficulties, CANT have it due to pregnancy.
None of those are reasons not to be vaccinated. All the current vaccines are now recommended for use on pregnancy. IQ is completely irrelevant.

MyDcAreMarvel · 18/05/2021 20:27

People need to stop being so selfish and follow the guidance to protect those that genuinely cannot be vaccinated.

MyDcAreMarvel · 18/05/2021 20:30

@TheDailyCarbunkle I haven't taken up my vaccine because a healthy young friend of mine had the AZ vaccine and was dead from catastrophic blood clots 10 days later
So you have never and never will use the contraceptive pill, or have a baby? Because those things will be more likely to give you a blood clot. You are also even if young more likely to have serious side affects from Covid than the vaccine.
Also there are other vaccines available.

Flatpancakes23 · 18/05/2021 20:31

Is this a legit thread.... for god sake is this the type of world we're making for ourselves

You going to penalise people that smoked and need hospital care for lung cancer?

What about people that had abortions and have complications afterwards?

People that try to self harm and end up in hospital.

Honestly this is disgusting to me and I've had enough of these type of threads.

XingMing · 18/05/2021 20:34

In all honesty, I DO think that if you are casual about your personal health, then you don't deserve to benefit from the newest treatment methods. If you get them regardless, it's as a guinea pig for the benefit of others who come later. I am not suggesting that people with congenital or chronic conditions should be disadvantaged in their access to the latest and best.

Siepie · 18/05/2021 20:36

@Lockheart

YABU.

We treat patients based on medical need.

We do not treat patients based on moral judgements. Nor on their job, religion, whether they donate to charity, or whether they're an organ donor.

If they need the treatment, they get the treatment.

This. I wouldn't want to live in a country where your right to medical care depends on some kind of moral judgment.

Even if you do think there should be some kind of judgment, you have no idea why those people aren't vaccinated. I've got my first vaccine booked for later this week. I'm taking a day off work in order to walk 1.5 miles (or get a bus), get a tram, and then get another bus. Not everyone can do that.

Chloemol · 18/05/2021 20:42

Ok so then are you going to say the same when people
Get admitted with flu when they don’t have the flu jab
Get admitted to hospital with lung cancer as a direct result of them smoking
Get admitted to hospital with a heart attack because of being obese

Yes they had the opportunity to be vaccinated, but actually we don’t know why they didn’t, do they have a blood clotting disorder? Are they allergic to some of the ingredients, do they have a religious reason not to take it

We don’t know why, but we are all entitled to care

Becca19962014 · 18/05/2021 20:43

I medically cannot have the vaccine. I've had multiple appointments offering me the vaccine (which I can't get to) but I cannot medically have it as it's down to the computer at the GP surgery, even though when I sought specialist advice I was told not to risk it given my history and condition. Yes I've told the surgery. No they don't care.

Without additional information you've no right judging, they may very well have turned up to have the vaccine and been turned away because of allergens or conditions they have.

Becca19962014 · 18/05/2021 20:45

I can't have the flu vaccine either and got admitted to hospital because of it and got all kinds of comments from staff about being irresponsible. The same staff who told me not to have it the year before when I needed admitting after having the flu vaccine!

DenisetheMenace · 18/05/2021 20:48

I think people who refuse the jab with no medical grounds are bloody idiots.

What do you propose though, leave them to die on the streets?

MiddlesexGirl · 18/05/2021 20:49

PP are being unreasonable equating sports injuries with lung cancer through smoking etc. People who participate in sport are in general reducing their load on health services through all the health benefits derived from sports.

SomeKindOfFloppyWeirdo · 18/05/2021 20:50

@LaurieFairyCake

I'm massively pro vaccine

But even I realise that some people CANT have it due to medical conditions, CANT have it due to domestic violence, CANT have it due to low IQ/learning difficulties, CANT have it due to pregnancy.

Plus it doesn't work on some people and they're going to get ill

Plus some people catch Covid before the vaccine takes effect

Do you really lack imagination ? HmmConfused

A thousand times this 👆🏼 Plus institutional racism spoiling the party, yet again.
SomeKindOfFloppyWeirdo · 18/05/2021 20:51

@PurpleDaisies

This is what the government want by the way. Look look look at these people who refused a vaccine rather than at our crappy border policy that let this variant get established in the first place before we were further through the vaccination programme.
And also a thousand times this.
SomeKindOfFloppyWeirdo · 18/05/2021 20:52

Also can we please fucking stop with the “cretins” and “morons”? Or are we ok with disablist language now? Hmm

justasking111 · 18/05/2021 20:56

Boris and crew are the donkeys that shut the borders too late every time, I despair at their ineptitude 🙈

Moonwhite · 18/05/2021 20:57

This is very likely. I won’t do it again and my children won’t be either.

These people know the risks. Their choice.

You don't see the irony in that? So if we need another lockdown you'll make sure your children don't participate.

And if God forbid they get ill, presumably you won't pursue treatment because they knew the risks and made their choice (by proxy)?