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Admitted to hospital for covid but refused the vaccine

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MakeMineALarge1 · 18/05/2021 17:22

So it has just been on my local news that there are 19 people in hospitlal with covid and all of them had not taken up their offer of a vaccine.

This makes me angry, you refuse the vaccine but you'll accept hospital care, why?

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YoutubeZoom · 18/05/2021 18:06

@Medianoche

Many people didn’t actively refuse the vaccine - they just didn’t have the capacity to accept it. There are a hundred reasons why that can happen, starting with: having no phone credit to book the appointment; no childcare or respite cover from full-time caring responsibilities; no option to take time off work; no money for the bus fare to the vaccination centre (or even no bus service running that way). For most people, the logistics of getting the vaccine are relatively easy, but that’s just not true for everyone.
We had to go to a different county for DH's vaccine as soon as possible. It is a lot of time and money not everyone can afford.
mainsfed · 18/05/2021 18:08

@BelleBlueBell

I realize it's semantics but the OP says they haven't taken up their vaccines not that they have refused them.

She literally says 'you refuse the vaccine but you'll accept hospital care, why?' - so more of a case of RTOP rather than semantics.

Iggly · 18/05/2021 18:08

The vaccine isn’t fully protective anyway.

mainsfed · 18/05/2021 18:08

@RufustheBadgeringReindeer

Exactly belle
RTOP!
RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 18/05/2021 18:09

There is actually something wrong with people that would deprive others of medical treatment

coconutmonkey · 18/05/2021 18:10

Do you believe everything you see on the news?

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 18/05/2021 18:11

I have read the OP thanks mains

ThatIsMyPotato · 18/05/2021 18:11

@MakeMineALarge1

So it has just been on my local news that there are 19 people in hospitlal with covid and all of them had not taken up their offer of a vaccine.

This makes me angry, you refuse the vaccine but you'll accept hospital care, why?

It makes me angry that you'd refuse hospital care to people who need it
Sinthie · 18/05/2021 18:12

Their body, their choice (unless they were not yet eligible). The govt although not responsible for the vaccine have bred a culture of distrust. It’s hardly surprising that people are apprehensive.
Btw I am vaccinated.

XenoBitch · 18/05/2021 18:14

Here it is... blame the unvaccinated, and not the incompetence of the Government.

A lot of people severely ill with Covid might not have been if they had been a healthy weight.... like the vaccine, that is also a personal responsibility. Lots of things that can land you in hospital are also your fault too.
Someone in another thread said blaming the unvaccinated for catching Covid was like HIV in the 80s.... you caught HIV through unprotected sex, you were bad and didn't deserve treatment. Catch it through a blood transfusion though, it wasn't your fault and you deserved the best that medicine could offer.
Thankfully, dividing Covid patients into good and bad, and basing their treatment on that, does not exist apart from in the sick fantasies of a few people.

BelleBlueBell · 18/05/2021 18:15

[quote mainsfed]@BelleBlueBell

I realize it's semantics but the OP says they haven't taken up their vaccines not that they have refused them.

She literally says 'you refuse the vaccine but you'll accept hospital care, why?' - so more of a case of RTOP rather than semantics.[/quote]
If you'd read it you'd see she says both.

I think we can all agree that it's a pretty poorly written post all round Smile

mainsfed · 18/05/2021 18:16

She does say both but given she says 'refused the vaccine' in her title and OP, it's clear this is what she means.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 18/05/2021 18:17

If you'd read it you'd see she says both

She does

And she has no idea whether the vaccines were refused or not

That was my point

toocold54 · 18/05/2021 18:20

I think that they should get access to medical care just like everyone else but I feel like there needs to be something done so everyone else isn’t footing the bill.

Why is it fair that someone chooses to be unvaccinated yet gets free treatment if they catch the disease. Or that someone who smokes 40 a day gets the same treatment as someone who doesn’t. I think there needs to be a situation that if you are in hospital due to being unvaccinated, overweight, smoker etc then you need to go private otherwise you can go to the NHS.

Tootsey11 · 18/05/2021 18:20

'Stupid and selfish'. Nice.

JMJTHEWEEDONKEY · 18/05/2021 18:22

As a previous poster has stated this is exactly what the government wants.

Finger pointing at anyone who hasn't had the vaccine to try to stop them being blamed for trying to put a trade deal before the health of the UK.

Other posters have stated many different reasons as to why some people haven't had the vaccine and why they won't.

NHS treatment is available for all regardless.

Should we stop treatment for gallstones seeing how they can occasionally be caused by poor diet? As they could easily have ended up in hospital if they had had the double vaccines as has already been proved. It works both ways. I have chosen gallstones as the example as they can occur without any of the regular causes so if you're looking to blame people for health conditions I'm assuming you would with gallstones also.

You also have to realise that it could easily be speculation and not completely true.

Also still puzzled as to why some still think the vaccine is some magical thing. You can still be infected and also still pass it on. As I have already stated in Bolton some had had the double vaccines. In India it was also the case with some of the doctors who lost their lives to Covid.

XenoBitch · 18/05/2021 18:23

@toocold54

I think that they should get access to medical care just like everyone else but I feel like there needs to be something done so everyone else isn’t footing the bill.

Why is it fair that someone chooses to be unvaccinated yet gets free treatment if they catch the disease. Or that someone who smokes 40 a day gets the same treatment as someone who doesn’t. I think there needs to be a situation that if you are in hospital due to being unvaccinated, overweight, smoker etc then you need to go private otherwise you can go to the NHS.

Treating someone for severe Covid is not something you get put on a waiting list for. It is my understanding that private hospitals don't offer emergency treatment.
SakuraEdenSwan1 · 18/05/2021 18:24

@MakeMineALarge1

So it has just been on my local news that there are 19 people in hospitlal with covid and all of them had not taken up their offer of a vaccine.

This makes me angry, you refuse the vaccine but you'll accept hospital care, why?

Just stop, forcing medical procedures against consent is illegal, we do not not stop treating Lung disease caused by smokers who refuse to stop, or passed out youngster who have drunk too much. I do not believe this shit anymore, so long as that to&&er allows incoming flights to land, than you and anyone else shit stirring can jog right on!!
millenialblush · 18/05/2021 18:25

This is pure fear mongering, how can you not see it? Laying blame on people who made a medical choice, diverting the attention away from the rubbish border policy and to scare the younger age bracket, who are being targeted now, to getting the vaccine. They are going to use the unvaccinated as a reason to lock down again, the 'conspiracy theorists' called it from day 1.

I'm honestly amazed at this point at how people aren't seeing the lies and the fear being pumped through their TV screens.

SoUmmYeah · 18/05/2021 18:28

There could be loads of reasons they haven't hag their vaccine- had tested positive in the 28days before the vaccine and are awaiting the new appointment, they could be on blood thinners and needed to go to a different hub or see their GP first. They could have had an emergency or been unwell when the appointment was, they could have been awaiting the result of a covid test or be allergic to some of the ingredients or nuts and needed a different vaccine or a discussion with a GP. You don't know and neither does the press.

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TopBitchoftheWitches · 18/05/2021 18:30

Are you always such a dickhead?

User24689 · 18/05/2021 18:32

I can't believe what has happened to this country.

Sure, let's direct our anger at 19 sick people because they (for reasons we have no idea about) didn't feel safe taking a medical procedure. 'refuse' is an emotive word. They didn't stand up with their arms folded and stamp their feet like toddlers, they just weighed it up and assessed the risk. In their cases the gamble didn't pay off.

I'm sure he government is loving the fact that you are so incandescent with rage you want to deny these innocent people life saving treatment, rather than being concerned with the fact our fucking inept government have not only let this virus run rampant through our country for 18 months , chopping and changing with their ridiculous rules, debating whether a scotch egg's a substantial meal blah and then failed to shut our borders to this indian variant after 18 months of evidence that might be a good idea.

It's no wonder people don't trust what they are being told, or asked to do anymore.

Honestly can't stand people like you.

SoupDragon · 18/05/2021 18:32

Should people who have a rare serious side effect to the vaccine not been treated because they chose to take the risk and have the vaccine...?

SunnyMustard · 18/05/2021 18:35

This statistics is only relevant when considering how many are in hospital WITH the vaccine??