To ask wtf is cis privilege and why does it need to be tackled

[KateWinceyette]

Seriously, what is cis privilege? My phone doesn't know because it corrected it to customer privilege!

Please explain to me in simple terms for I am simply a woman who doesn't get it.

It’s the equivalent of claiming that atheists have privilege because they don’t suffer from religious discrimination. It’s a concept best ignored

I think ours another stick to beat women with.

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It's the idea that people who are not trans are privileged despite the trans movement being incredibly powerful, having influence over all political parties, taking over womens groups and roles and having a massive voice

It doesn’t. It’s bollocks.

It’s incredibly insulting to women and totally ignores the sex based oppression we have to live with, and that we cannot “identify” out of it.

its a made up thing, it doesn't exist

I think it's a not very clever attempt by the daily mail to stoke the culture war using 'wokeim' to fuel its flames.

@VestaTilley bollocks? How very dare you! You cannot use gendered insults in case the non-bollock-havers get very upset at not having any despite having all the feels of manliness such as an urge to watch Top Gear, get their heads shaved and say “Awright geezer”.
Discusting

Fuck me that’s scary 😳

It's a load of shite.

It's the lingo of a load of fucking boring middle class wankers trying to pretend they're all dead oppressed and that.

It's usually directed by blokes and blokey-fanclubs at normal ordinary women having periods and hysterectomies and stuff.

It means male privilege wants to trespass on our territory, they are welcome to the abuse I have suffered from men all my life - they can definitely have that one.

Its a load of absolute toss, best ignored.

Quote from DM article

Similar guidance has appeared in several Russel Group universities, many of which have asked lecturers to undergo new training on 'cisgender privilege' - the advantages afforded someone who identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth

So let's stop assigning "gender" at birth and let people be the sex they are born as.

Newcastle University has told its staff: 'Being cisgender comes with social privilege. That's even for people who are socially disadvantaged in other ways.'

So it doesn't matter what race or colour you are or whether you're poor or uneducated - as long as you are born without a penis you are privileged?

I think it means we should find sexual assault, endometriosis, low pay and wife work positive affirmations of our female cisgender and learn to embrace them.

Unlike transwomen who never get to experience the physical and emotional trauma of being a biological female. Poor things.

ha ha ha that made me laugh, so educators can't say that all women hate their periods because transwomen don't menstruate...and the non natal women feel jealous.

Very, very short version is that 'Cis privilege' is the idea that if your sex corresponds to your 'gender identity', then you have not experienced oppression in the same way as someone whose sex does not correspond to their 'gender identity'.

Many women have various issues with being referred to as 'cis', including not wanting to compelled to refer to themselves as a sub section of their sex class. Many also have issues with the idea of 'gender identity' as it is predicated on gender stereotypes.

The article is also conflating sex with gender - they are two very separate things. The 'sex assigned at birth' thing is entirely incorrect as sex is observed at birth (and often before!). Gender is a social construct which the baby will be unable to articulate when they are born.

It's a made up word that no one asked for, used when insulting women and men who refuse to join in the gender experiment.

How many transpeople are there? Seriously! How have they and their allies gained so much power?

This country has gone bonkers! I don't need to put my "pronoun" on my emails - my name is Kate not really but you know what I mean so people will know I'm a her/she.

It's another set of big ol hairy bollocks to keep women in their place

It’s kind of a weird/confusing example to use to me, because I’m of the female sex and I don’t hate my periods, I actually quite like them in a funny sort of way. Is that really something people say in a cavalier cisgender-privileged sort of way? I’ve never heard anyone say that.

@KateWinceyette

Quote from DM article

Similar guidance has appeared in several Russel Group universities, many of which have asked lecturers to undergo new training on 'cisgender privilege' - the advantages afforded someone who identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth

So let's stop assigning "gender" at birth and let people be the sex they are born as.

Newcastle University has told its staff: 'Being cisgender comes with social privilege. That's even for people who are socially disadvantaged in other ways.'

So it doesn't matter what race or colour you are or whether you're poor or uneducated - as long as you are born without a penis you are privileged?

This reply suggests to me that this is entirely new territory for you.

It's a really grim topic, if you don't need to know, my first piece of advice would be don't bother.

If you do need to know, there are some explainers on the Feminist board but I don't know where exactly. There's a pinned thread at the top with MN guidelines covering cis/trans.

I don't think being born with or without a penis is relevant but the debate moves so fast, I don't know for sure.

@CarmelBeach I think this is the explainer thread you mean - www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

Just another construct by the bloody woke and BLM brigades.

If you can describe a woman using sex-based terms and without resorting to ‘feelings’ or gender stereotypes then you’re undoubtedly ‘cis privileged’ and should go into public stocks to be booed and shamed.

Warning: if you do read up on this you might get very, very angry.

@memberofthewedding

Just another construct by the bloody woke and BLM brigades.

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