To ask wtf is cis privilege and why does it need to be tackled

[KateWinceyette]

Seriously, what is cis privilege? My phone doesn't know because it corrected it to customer privilege!

Please explain to me in simple terms for I am simply a woman who doesn't get it.

@VladmirsPoutine

I think it's a not very clever attempt by the daily mail to stoke the culture war using 'wokeim' to fuel its flames.

No. It's a quote from a 13-page policy document by the University Edinburgh policing what language their staff may use to/about transgender students. It adheres completely to gender ideology and pays no concession to 'misgendering' those who do not accept the term 'cis', as many have been spent most of their careers fighting against reductive, regressive gender stereotypes.

Declining to discuss it is not an option. You either don a rainbow lanyard and announce your pronouns on all correspondence, or you must be one of those monstrous gender critical feminists who needs to be dismantled and returned to the factory for reprogramming.

Under His eye.

Apologies for atrocious grammar - phone has left out a word and added one in.

@VestaTilley

It doesn’t. It’s bollocks.

It’s incredibly insulting to women and totally ignores the sex based oppression we have to live with, and that we cannot “identify” out of it.

Yup. It’s more made up nonsense to try to silence women (because they won’t try it on men).

In order to have cis privilege you first have to have a gender. Only transgender people have a gender so only transgender people can have cis privilege. It's simple if you follow the logic. Oh wait...

It's not something relevant to most people as most people don't have a gender identity. I think it says that females (for example) who identify with gender stereotypes enough to feel like their modern version of a woman are privileged. I'm not sure tbh how they are more privileged than someone like me who is happy in a female body but doesn't feel like they have any gender identity.

memberofthewedding

‘Just another construct by the bloody woke and BLM brigades.’

I don’t think it’s anything to get worked up about and probably created a minor Twitter ‘storm’ for about an hour. It’s made up or misinterpreted to rile up simpletons with an agenda like the one I’ve quoted above as part of this country’s new American style ‘culture wars’ where the little people are encouraged to fight over divisive things by the media whilst their friends in charge rob us all blind.

So are they saying women know have to hide the fact they have periods and not talk about them. In case it upsets a trans person?

I am all for protecting trans people from verbal abuse but isn't that setting women back many years. Periods become a taboo subject.

Anyone who understand any bit of chemistry knows that the phrase only heightens the fact that ‘trans’ molecules can never ever do what ‘cis’ molecules do. So “literally” it is a term about what side you ‘are’ but chemically It actually quite definitively differentiates between molecular structures that are not the same and with wholly different qualities and reactions. And thus is such an inappropriate and ironic term for the trans movement. I kind of feel embarrassed for anyone who uses it. Some idiot thought that was the term to use without understanding molecular structure and what it is really saying.

Apparently this

Cisgender privilege: the unearned benefits you receive when your gender identity matches your sex assigned at birth. For example, you are not questioned about what restroom you should be using, denied access to healthcare, misgendered when addressed or spoken about, asked what your "real" name is, or fearful of violence because of your gender presentation.

Conveniently forgets all the disadvantages of being a woman.
And are trans people denied healthcare?

I see my privilege in this instance. I have to admit that life is easier, for me, as a woman, than a lot of the trans people I've encountered online. The anger, death threats, the trying to convince lesbians to like dick, the head tilting, the toilet stealing, the pretending I need tampons, the crying-because-I'm-a-girl, the suck-my-girl-dick threats, the book burning, the PVC, the puppy play, the sissy porn, the hormone injections, the puberty blockers, the surgery, binding... There's a lot of stuff I've never had to deal with. I do feel better off for it.

This is actually getting so ridiculous now🤦‍♀️

What is it?

Well, there is a pile of it, and it is gently steaming, and I think it came out of that bovine over there...

I think it means that some of the professional services staff have had too much time on their hands over the last year.

The poor academics on the receiving end of this, in contrast, have been desperately trying to convert hours of lectures, laboratory work, tutorials and exams (written and practical) into something that can be done online.

@Oneeyeopen

I understand that quote and it does make some sense and like other privileges does not mean that you don't also suffer disadvantage in other areas. E.g. I am disadvantaged as I'm female but I have white privilege. But actually that is privilege which everyone who is not trans has. All these definitions are based in an erroneous assumptions that most people have a gender identity when they really don't.

It's another way to silence women - I've been a left-wing voter my whole life but this bullsh&t is getting tired. I feel sorry for anyone teaching these wokewits today - what horrible entitled people they must be in order to enforce such batsh"t rules. I knew the coffin was nailed for Scottish people when Nicola declared her pronouns. Waiting for Boris to do that here.

I think cis privilege is all the stuff women get to do - sorry, cis women - like cleaning the toilet, organising the fekcing Christmas presents and other similar 'wifework', and doing the vast bulk of the most mundane household chores... It's also being pursued by men from the age of ten. Oh, and periods. Cramps. Childbirth. Complications and repercussions of giving birth. Endometriosis. The flipping menopause. Being objectified, silenced, underpaid, and so on.

We are so very lucky to be born cis women, and yet we are despicable and not real women, something like that.

I sincerely hope to outlive this nonsense movement and the harm it is wreaking on the young and the vulnerable, and the foolishness of all these institutions (and ones of higher learning!) bowing down to it, like they've swallowed the Emperor's New Clothes whole.

At what point are normal people going to wake up to this and do something? I feel like everyone is sleepwalking. I'm a woman of colour and my body has been used and abused BECAUSE of my sex. That is not cis privilege. It's so insulting. Especially as most of those students are able-bodied and white.

Its sexism dressed up as politically correct voodoo to control women's behaviour.

Some experiences of academics working and studying in Universities - www.gcacademianetwork.org/

@titchy

I think it means we should find sexual assault, endometriosis, low pay and wife work positive affirmations of our female cisgender and learn to embrace them.

Unlike transwomen who never get to experience the physical and emotional trauma of being a biological female. Poor things.

Brilliant

Well, as a born female I can definitely say that all the sexual assault and harassment I've endured in my lifetime don't feel like privilege.

Tbh I don't think I've ever heard anyone say 'all women hate their periods' - they used it as an example so they must think it's something said quite often?

Surely they wouldn't have used a made up example of what people could say that would be bad (whether it's said much or not)?

This thread is woefully misunderstanding the concept of privilege. If you have any sort of privilege it does NOT mean your life is in no way difficult for any means. Cis privilege does NOT mean being a woman is not hard or that it doesn't come with its own oppression, it literally just means that whatever oppression you experience as a person is not because of being transgender. Same as white privilege - it doesn't mean that every white person has a charmed life, just that their life isn't more difficult on account of being white.

Whether or not 'privilege' should come into universities etc. is a separate discussion, but the concept is VERY simple. There is a word that accounts for the specific hardships of being a woman - it's called male privilege.

Anyone who uses the term 'cis' is a cock, regardless of what they mean by it.

This thread is woefully misunderstanding the concept of privilege.

PS. I think you have woefully misunderstood irony, also.